Sprtfan Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Griffin is the 5th ranked DB in my league but he rarely makes the top 50 in the Huddle rankings. I normally use the def breakdown on Friday to help me decided who to start but can't wait this time around. As of right now I'm starting Bethea and Kerry Rhodes but I'm not sure between Griffin, Huff and Weddle for the 3rd spot. Griffin always seems to put up point but his consistant low ranking has me questioning myself. Thanks for any insight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted December 9, 2010 Share Posted December 9, 2010 Because they are in love with OJ Atogwe for some reason . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 Griffin is the 5th ranked DB in my league but he rarely makes the top 50 in the Huddle rankings. I normally use the def breakdown on Friday to help me decided who to start but can't wait this time around. As of right now I'm starting Bethea and Kerry Rhodes but I'm not sure between Griffin, Huff and Weddle for the 3rd spot. Griffin always seems to put up point but his consistant low ranking has me questioning myself. Thanks for any insight. Griffen has certainly been solid all season. Just didn't like the matchup against the Colts and in conjunction with his rather weak Week 13 output, we had no choice but to rank him a bit lower this week. As of this post, he has 2 solos and 1 assist... so... Because they are in love with OJ Atogwe for some reason . . . Not sure how that applies, but Atogwe has averaged 15 points over the past two contests and has a pretty solid matchup. As always, your contributions are golden. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprtfan Posted December 10, 2010 Author Share Posted December 10, 2010 Griffen has certainly been solid all season. Just didn't like the matchup against the Colts and in conjunction with his rather weak Week 13 output, we had no choice but to rank him a bit lower this week. As of this post, he has 2 solos and 1 assist... so... Not sure how that applies, but Atogwe has averaged 15 points over the past two contests and has a pretty solid matchup. As always, your contributions are golden. I ended up benching him based on the weak match up but was not sure since he always seems to do ok. I did start Bethea and that one looks like it is going to bite me in the ass. I wouldn't have considered benching Bethea this week anyway and I'm surprised he hasn't done more tonight. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 (edited) Not sure how that applies, but Atogwe has averaged 15 points over the past two contests and has a pretty solid matchup. As always, your contributions are golden. Atogwe has been consistently ranked high each week, but in one of my IDP league he's #27. In another he's #28. I drafted him fairly high, and finally dropped him. I'm just bitter I guess. Sorry. You guys do a great job on the IDP rankings and I use them all the time. I guess I should have used the smiley. I thought this thread was about bitching as to why the rankings aren't 100% accurate. Everybody's so dang sensitive tonight. . . Edited December 10, 2010 by CaptainHook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPIchamp Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 How was Griffin a weak start tonight? Going against a team that throws alot of passes, gives up above average tackle opportunities, a QB with INT issues lately. Playing for a team with a better rush defense than pass defense, playing against the Colts who can run the ball anyway, forcing them to throw. I didn't see it, so I played him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 (edited) I ended up benching him based on the weak match up but was not sure since he always seems to do ok. I did start Bethea and that one looks like it is going to bite me in the ass. I wouldn't have considered benching Bethea this week anyway and I'm surprised he hasn't done more tonight. Thanks I am pretty surprised by Bethea's stats tonight. If nothing else, I could see his and Francisco's stats switched. Atogwe has been consistently ranked high each week, but in one of my IDP league he's #27. In another he's #28. I drafted him fairly high, and finally dropped him. I'm just bitter I guess. Sorry. You guys do a great job on the IDP rankings and I use them all the time. I guess I should have used the smiley. I thought this thread was about bitching as to why the rankings aren't 100% accurate. Everybody's so dang sensitive tonight. . . #35 last week (ended up scoring well - 16.5 in one of my IDP leagues) #15 week prior (ended up scoring well - 13.5 - and was ranked there based on matchup vs. DEN) #35 week 11 (maybe a little high considering he had only put up 4.5 points the week previous) #4 week 10 (coming off bye, overestimated tackle opp's against SFO) #31 week 8 (after 3 straight double digits outings... probably too low of a ranking) #19 week 7 (after 2 straight double digits outings... and a good matchup vs. TBB) #11 week 6 (fantastic matchup vs. SDC) #46 week 5 (somewhat poor matchup, coming off a goose egg) #15 week 4 (obviously too high given his eventual output and slightly dinged) #15 week 3 (29 points in first 2 weeks) #18 week 2 and #9 to start week 1. That's an average of 19.5. So, not seeing how that's "consistently ranked high". That's darn near right in the middle. I put an assload of work into these rankings. I have tinkered with my "system" now for 3+ years and while it's nowhere near perfect, it's something I take a ton of pride in. Not trying to be overly sensitive. How was Griffin a weak start tonight? Going against a team that throws alot of passes, gives up above average tackle opportunities, a QB with INT issues lately. Playing for a team with a better rush defense than pass defense, playing against the Colts who can run the ball anyway, forcing them to throw. I didn't see it, so I played him. To be fair, the rankings come out on Thursday AM, and at "press time" (last night), I wasn't satisfied with the reports about Griffin's "illness". I didn't have time today to offer a note on the rankings page to indicate he was listed as probable. But yeah... Michael Griffin can't tackle. I see the guy whiff more often than not. If he could, perhaps the matchup against a pass-heavy team would have looked more enticing. But really, he's having a fabulous season in terms of tackles. His best season by far, actually. That said, Michael Griffin rarely makes an interception. He has 4 this year, sure. But in his previous 3 seasons, he has 11 total, and that includes a 2008 season where he had 7. I'll admit though: we probably don't give Griffin his due. He's putting up consistently good numbers and my ranking system somehow spits out a ranking for him that ends up being on the lower side. I am likely going to add a "consistency" factor in my ranking program. Griffin, before tonight, had only one game in single digits, and that was a 9.5 point effort Week 2 vs. the Steelers. All those 10+ games need to count for something. --- All in all, I appreciate the input. It will make our ranking system better in the long run. Edited December 10, 2010 by darin3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PPIchamp Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 (edited) sorry, meant to say the Colts can't run the ball.... I definitley wasn't feeling Bethea tonight with the way the Tenn offense has been sputtering lately, I dropped him for Hope. Worked out, though Hope was merely acceptable at best. I live for the IDP Breakdowns, nearly worth the price of admission alone.....nearly...... Edited December 10, 2010 by PPIchamp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 sorry, meant to say the Colts can't run the ball.... I definitley wasn't feeling Bethea tonight, I dropped him for Hope. Worked out, though Hope was merely acceptable at best. I live for the IDP Breakdowns, nearly worth the price of admission alone.....nearly...... I can't take credit for the Breakdowns; that's solely keggerz's deal. I know he puts in a tremendous amount of work into it, and it shows. I was feeling Bethea for sure, and I'm pretty certain a few other sites had him up there in the rankings too. Pretty poor showing for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprtfan Posted December 10, 2010 Author Share Posted December 10, 2010 Atogwe has been consistently ranked high each week, but in one of my IDP league he's #27. In another he's #28. I drafted him fairly high, and finally dropped him. I'm just bitter I guess. Sorry. You guys do a great job on the IDP rankings and I use them all the time. I guess I should have used the smiley. I thought this thread was about bitching as to why the rankings aren't 100% accurate. Everybody's so dang sensitive tonight. . . I didn't mean to come off as if I was bitching about the rankings. I assumed there was a reason why he is normally ranked low and was curious what it was. I can normally get that type of info from the break downs on Friday but couldn't this week due to the Thursday game. The IDP rankings are a great tool and is one of the main reasons I joined and keep coming back each year. Keep up the great work and I'm sorry if first post came off as critical. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I can't take credit for the Breakdowns; that's solely keggerz's deal. I know he puts in a tremendous amount of work into it, and it shows. I was feeling Bethea for sure, and I'm pretty certain a few other sites had him up there in the rankings too. Pretty poor showing for him. He has been wildly inconsistent this year and has put up multiple stinker games. Dropped several INT's. I think the fact he is the only healthy member remaining in the Colts secondary, the Colts are asking him to stay back and make up for other mistakes. Mainly Francisco's missed tackles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I didn't mean to come off as if I was bitching about the rankings. I assumed there was a reason why he is normally ranked low and was curious what it was. I can normally get that type of info from the break downs on Friday but couldn't this week due to the Thursday game. The IDP rankings are a great tool and is one of the main reasons I joined and keep coming back each year. Keep up the great work and I'm sorry if first post came off as critical. Um you do realize that the Thursday games are always up and available on Wednesday, don't you? Anyway here is what was written about the Titans secondary: Secondary: The Colts are going to put the ball in the air this week, that much we know, especially with how poorly they are running the ball. I think it is safe to get Cortland Finnegan, Alterraun Verner, Chris Hope and Michael Griffin all into starting lineups this week. I know that Peyton Manning is chucking TDs to the the other team at an alarming pace but I don't think we see him do it again this week. But if it were to happen I wouldn't be surprised to see it be Michael Griffin taking it to the house. and as far as Star Rankings go I had it like this: 5 Star: Tulloch 4 Star: Finnegan 3 Star: Hope, Verner, Griffin 2 Star: Babin, McCourty, Ford, Jones, McGrath, Witherspoon, Hayes & Ball 1 Star: Fuller, Allred & Brown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprtfan Posted December 10, 2010 Author Share Posted December 10, 2010 I honestly looked and didn't find them this week. I checked the pinned thread at the top of this forum and in the "in season" section. Where is the link normally posted for future reference? Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted December 10, 2010 Share Posted December 10, 2010 I honestly looked and didn't find them this week. I checked the pinned thread at the top of this forum and in the "in season" section. Where is the link normally posted for future reference? Thanks I try to update the link in the forum as a courtesy but didnt get to it this week....you just have to check the main page...it is where it normally is but just says THURSDAY GAME next to it. sorry bout my blunder Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sprtfan Posted December 10, 2010 Author Share Posted December 10, 2010 I try to update the link in the forum as a courtesy but didnt get to it this week....you just have to check the main page...it is where it normally is but just says THURSDAY GAME next to it. sorry bout my blunder No problem, I have the ability to miss the obvious some time. Thanks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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