Slugs3511 Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I have been running a league for 13 years now and have always used CBS, however, I do not like the $160 fee for the site.... Many of you on here use MFL and give it good ratings, so I was wandering how it compares to CBS.... 1. A person in the league states that MFL has slow "live Scoring" issues during the games? Is that true...? 2. Can I carry over all the records from CBS to MFL if I switch to it? 3. Are there any game time issues with making adjustments to rosters, setting lineups when there are thursday games.....ETC...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 I will say this. The geeks like MFL because it is easier to customize for scoring and cheaper. However, when I switched my local to it a few years ago, I got nothing but complaints. From issues with the fact that it looked like an eighth grader designed it in 1998 (which is true, it does look completely bootleg) to the fact that it didn't have as many stories and and insight and such for guys to read. These didn't matter to me because I just saw it as a tool to keep track of scores and such. I never used the Sportsline rankings or such anyway. But these guys didn't also have subscriptions to a place like this either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 (edited) I have been running a league for 13 years now and have always used CBS, however, I do not like the $160 fee for the site....Many of you on here use MFL and give it good ratings, so I was wandering how it compares to CBS.... 1. A person in the league states that MFL has slow "live Scoring" issues during the games? Is that true...? 2. Can I carry over all the records from CBS to MFL if I switch to it? 3. Are there any game time issues with making adjustments to rosters, setting lineups when there are thursday games.....ETC...? 1. MFL has a PC live scoring app that updates every 30 seconds during games and is incredibly comprehensive. Multiple leagues can be defined in it. Web live scoring is less responsive. 2. I doubt it but if you ask MFL help, they'll tell you. I doubt CBS has an export facility 3. No, none whatsoever. League rules are as flexible as you want them to be. ETA: It's $60 vs $160, which on it's own makes it a no-brainer. ETA2: Always use a specialist, not a giant corporation that does a few little sidelines. Edited January 3, 2011 by Ursa Majoris Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 1. MFL has a PC live scoring app that updates every 30 seconds during games and is incredibly comprehensive. Multiple leagues can be defined in it. Web live scoring is less responsive. 2. I doubt it but if you ask MF; help, they'll tell you. I doubt CBS has an export facility 3. No, none whatsoever. League rules are as flexible as you want them to be. ETA: It's $60 vs $160, which on it's own makes it a no-brainer. ETA2: Always use a specialist, not a giant corporation that does a few little sidelines. I am in leagues on both of these sites and I like them both. My main local we stick to CBS . We have been on it for years and with the exception of a glitch here and there we are satisfied. I realize the savings but these leagues are usually anywhere from 10-16 teams or sometimes more. When you spread that out it comes out to about 10 bucks extra per team. Considering the amount of money we spend on this hobby of ours its isnt bank breaking money if you are happy with the cbs product Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BillyBalata Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 . 2. I doubt it but if you ask MF; help, they'll tell you. I doubt CBS has an export facility There is now an option where the Commissioner can import your league from another site. MFL lists 4 sites you can choose to import from, CBS, Yahoo, ESPN and Fanball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABearWithFurniture Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 The MFL live scoring function refreshes automatically every 60 seconds...guess if that's not fast enough you can always hit your refresh button yourself. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted January 3, 2011 Share Posted January 3, 2011 There is now an option where the Commissioner can import your league from another site. MFL lists 4 sites you can choose to import from, CBS, Yahoo, ESPN and Fanball. Didn't know that. Interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J2K Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 I'm in the same boat. We've been with CBS for over 10 years as well and I'm sick of the outrageous prices for their leagues. I may try the MFL import this weekend, as CBS locks up their site pretty soon and then I wouldn't be able to import before next year anyways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rellen13 Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 I'm in the same boat. We've been with CBS for over 10 years as well and I'm sick of the outrageous prices for their leagues. I may try the MFL import this weekend, as CBS locks up their site pretty soon and then I wouldn't be able to import before next year anyways. You can import all the years you tell it to. Does not need to be a "current" league (at least with Yahoo). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby's Hubby Posted January 5, 2011 Share Posted January 5, 2011 I will say this. The geeks like MFL because it is easier to customize for scoring and cheaper. However, when I switched my local to it a few years ago, I got nothing but complaints. From issues with the fact that it looked like an eighth grader designed it in 1998 (which is true, it does look completely bootleg) to the fact that it didn't have as many stories and and insight and such for guys to read. These didn't matter to me because I just saw it as a tool to keep track of scores and such. I never used the Sportsline rankings or such anyway. But these guys didn't also have subscriptions to a place like this either. the exact same thing happened to me in my local. I changed our site from CBS to MFL and I got the same complaints. They also complained about free agent system and that the site uses rounds which confused them. the old fogies dont like MFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montster Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 ETA: It's $60 vs $160, which on it's own makes it a no-brainer. Interesting. I pay $90 for MFL. Is $60 for early birds? My main local is on CBS. The commissioner won't instill decimal scoring and still prefers to do waivers manually. I run a 12-team local on MFL and everything is automated. To each his own, I guess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Phazool Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Interesting. I pay $90 for MFL. Is $60 for early birds? Yes, but Not sure about $60. I paid $69.95 Date Purchased: Jun 14, 2010 Amount: $69.95 League ID: 42591 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I paid $70 for the first league (I think I paid for 4 or 5 last year), and $60 for the rest... Regular rate was $79.95. $10 off for early bird rate, and another $10 off for the "multiple league discount." Of course, MFL costs come out of the league payouts, so it really doesn't matter much to me, whether it's $60, $70, or $80. But, if I can save the league a few bucks, and put more $$ in the winners' pockets, why not? Pros for MFL - You can totally customize any league, under any format (dynasty, IDP, auction, or a combination of all of the above), to be whatever you want it to be. You make the schedule, you make the scoring system, you make the waivers format, etc. Unlike sites like Yahoo (and CBS to a lesser extent), MFL doesn't just have a few options to choose from. Everything can be made to work exactly how you want it to be. There is literally nothing that can't be done on MFL. If there is, you contact customer service, and they'll most likely make it happen, as long as it's a reasonable request. Cons for MFL - The downside of having everything able to be customized is that the site can be somewhat complicated, especially for the novice fantasy footballer. If your league is a simple work league, or one which is filled with the less "serious" type of fantasy football players, it might seem too "complicated" for some of them. If you want a site that offers advice, gives projections, etc., MFL might also not be for you. If you're just looking for the best FF site there is, and plan on getting your actual information elsewhere, you really can't go wrong with MFL. One last tidbit... Even though MFL doesn't have a lot of "information," per se, they do provide up-to-the-minute player updates, drawn in from multiple other FF sites. Whether a player practiced that day, is declared inactive, or goes on IR, MFL has the information within minutes after it happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeachBum Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 the old fogies dont like MFL. Sure we do! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Interesting. I pay $90 for MFL. Is $60 for early birds? I usually buy as soon as I get first notification, which is, I think, February. Cost $59.95 last year as a (very) early bird and returning league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osu1322 Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 One last tidbit... Even though MFL doesn't have a lot of "information," per se, they do provide up-to-the-minute player updates, drawn in from multiple other FF sites. Whether a player practiced that day, is declared inactive, or goes on IR, MFL has the information within minutes after it happens. The one thing I like from my ESPN leauge is player information. You can click on someone's name and u get all their stats, latest news and projection from the "experts". All of the infomation about ur FF team at the click of a mouse. Other than that ESPN is free and I personally haven't had any problems with the leauge. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 The one thing I like from my ESPN leauge is player information. You can click on someone's name and u get all their stats, latest news and projection from the "experts". All of the infomation about ur FF team at the click of a mouse. Other than that ESPN is free and I personally haven't had any problems with the leauge. Let me rephrase... MFL has information (stats, player news, etc.). What they don't have, specifically, is information based on opinion (who to start, projections, etc.), like ESPN and CBSSportsline have. Like I said, for those of us who get our information from a site(s) that are specifically designed for fantasy football, there's no need for any information from some ESPN schmuck (who is probably a novice fantasy footballer themselves). For the people, on the other hand, who don't want to spend the $20 or so annually, to make sure they get the best of the best (in terms of information), reading what ESPN has to say is probably good enough. Bottom line... ESPN and Sportline have been mediocre at best, over the years, in terms of the fantasy information that they provide. I will say this, though... I watched the weekly FF show on ESPN2 (Sunday mornings) quite a bit this year, and I think they are finally catching up somewhat. In other words, it appears that they actually have some people who really dig in to some good information, instead of just having a handful of "experts" pick players based on said players' NFL skill level, without actually looking at the fantasy details (matchups, etc.) involved. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 To add to Gopher's points, while MFL does not have the "advice' directly, they do have partnerships with other sites that provide this information, inclding one that will give a 'suggested" lineup based on that sites projections and your MFL scoring rules. And they have links as he mentioned from every player to their stats, recent news, injury status, etc. So, quite frankly what was once one of their bigger knocks is really not anymore, and the fact that they link/content share with actual fantasy football based websites such as the Huddle, KFFL and FantasySharks as oppossed to the usual hacks giving piss poor advice at ESPN/Yahoo etc. could be viewed as a positive (you get decent information) or a negative (so do your opponents) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorttynaz Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I've been in my main local for 9 years now. The first 2 years the commish did everything manually and everything was done via email. Then we went to CBS Sportsline for the next 5 years - and although it came with a hefty pricetag, we all enjoyed it. To offset the cost, we all pitched in an extra $15 on top of our yearly entry fee. Last year the commish decided on saving a few bucks for everyone and we went to Yahoo. As that was a disaster, this year we went gave MFL a shot - and I gotta say we won't be going back next season. It's highly customizable which is why some people like it, but it's actually TOO customizable, and we've had nothing but problems this entire season. Add on top of that the poor live scoring - and although it's half the price CBS is, we're going back to CBS Sportsline next season.. Why it's so damn expensive is beyond me, but it's a simple case of you do get what you pay for.. So - my 2 cents would be if you haven't used MFL before and are looking to try it out - be prepared for headaches and your league managers griping about it.. Your best bet would be to charge everyone a few extra bucks when you collect your yearly dues, and stick with CBS Sportsline.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorttynaz Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 To add to Gopher's points, while MFL does not have the "advice' directly, they do have partnerships with other sites that provide this information, inclding one that will give a 'suggested" lineup based on that sites projections and your MFL scoring rules. And they have links as he mentioned from every player to their stats, recent news, injury status, etc. So, quite frankly what was once one of their bigger knocks is really not anymore, and the fact that they link/content share with actual fantasy football based websites such as the Huddle, KFFL and FantasySharks as oppossed to the usual hacks giving piss poor advice at ESPN/Yahoo etc. could be viewed as a positive (you get decent information) or a negative (so do your opponents) This year they used "Fantasy Sharks", and wow - HORRIBLE weekly projections. Just about every week the players they recommended to sit the bench usually outperformed the ones they recommended starting. HORRIBLE projections! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steelhead Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 I switched over from CBS and my local had used it for 10 years. I imported every season over, had some issues with the import tool but tech support was great and they updated it a bit based on my feedback. I agree with all the points and the look and menu paths are alot more cumbersome than CBS. However this 1st year went ok. One thing I really like is www.mflhistory.com. I bought this and set it up and for long time local leagues it's really cool to see all the history and records. I used to keep a spreadsheet with some stats but this is much better. Highly recommend it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 This year they used "Fantasy Sharks", and wow - HORRIBLE weekly projections. Just about every week the players they recommended to sit the bench usually outperformed the ones they recommended starting. HORRIBLE projections! Yeah, I actually joked about this in one of my leagues... Whenever I looked at the "Projected Scores," I would lose if favored, and win when the underdog. I can safely say that I never made a lineup decision based on those projections, as they were absolutely terrible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Muto Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 MFL blows CBS away. 10x better and at 1/3 the cost. The question is why wouldn't you use MFL ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Muto Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 Interesting. I pay $90 for MFL. Is $60 for early birds? My main local is on CBS. The commissioner won't instill decimal scoring and still prefers to do waivers manually. I run a 12-team local on MFL and everything is automated. To each his own, I guess. I paid $49.95 2010 MyFantasyLeague.com Invoice Date Purchased: Jun 9, 2010 Amount: $49.95 League ID: 28326 Invoice ID: 060976140239 Name: Henry Muto Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorttynaz Posted January 6, 2011 Share Posted January 6, 2011 MFL blows CBS away. 10x better and at 1/3 the cost. The question is why wouldn't you use MFL ? I suppose it's not bad when you have to manage 73 fantasy teams.. When you're just doing one or two like most of us, MFL BLOWS! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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