T-Scorp Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 (edited) Right after the Packers won on Sunday all you heard was that Rodgers was finally on par with Brady, Brees, and Manning now he had won a playoff game. HUH? After the game the sideline bimbo asked him how it was to finally have the monkey off his back... What monkey???? Wasn't last year his first playoff game? So he was 0-1??? Now that he is 1-1 he is elite QB? I must be missing something??? Edit to add: He is already a very good QB but it is a little early to crown his at this point based on one playoff win in two tries. Edited January 10, 2011 by T-Scorp Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skylive5 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 The media is quick to crown and quick to tear down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Odd, the monkey on Steve Young's back looked a whole lot like a SF D that kept getting beat by Dallas late in games. Same thing here. Granted, Rodgers threw the pick in OT that they got beat on in his first playoff loss, but let's not pretend that it wasn't mainly the fault of a D that kept getting torched all game long. Odd part 2. In Indy, it's all about Manning overcoming their injuries. In GB, it's all about the coach. GB has had absolutely no running game to speak of, basically until yesterday (and let's be honest, guys are tripping all over themselves to go crazy about the kid from Buffalo but it's not like he ran wild or anything). Yet, despite this, Rodgers has been crazy efficient. There are exactly two QBs right now who are certainly better than him, Manning and Brady. Everyone else is either as good or worse. That seems elite enough for me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 The media wants a story. They want drama. Sometimes they need to manufacture it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprofessor Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 If you watch Aaron Rodgers how could you not put him in the elite QB status? The guy has "it". Cool under pressure, a very strong and accurate arm and a heck of a competitor. Things look easy for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Scorp Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 Do not disagree with your view. Mainly pointing out the media overhyping the "monkey on his back" after just losing one playoff game!! (inwhich he played very well)! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprofessor Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Do not disagree with your view. Mainly pointing out the media overhyping the "monkey on his back" after just losing one playoff game!! (inwhich he played very well)! I agree ..... a "reach" by the media. Nothing there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Rodgers even said something to the effect of "There was no Monkey on my back" I guess every qb has to get that first playoff win under their belt. Rodgers is the real deal for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
westvirginia Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Game, set and match. You're too smart to be the professor of a Pac-10 school! Seriously, Rogers looks elite to me. Guy you can build a franchise around and always finds a way to make the play. If you watch Aaron Rodgers how could you not put him in the elite QB status? The guy has "it". Cool under pressure, a very strong and accurate arm and a heck of a competitor. Things look easy for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Just you remember, he has terrible vision...who was that around here who claimed that pile of nonsense last year? Terrible vision = completely porous OL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTSuper7 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Just you remember, he has terrible vision...who was that around here who claimed that pile of nonsense last year? Terrible vision = completely porous OL It was Mr. Hammock, everyone's favorite Megan Foxnozzle. This all came up when Minny destroyed GB on Monday night last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 It was Mr. Hammock, everyone's favorite Megan Foxnozzle. This all came up when Minny destroyed GB on Monday night last season. where is that tool now? I would also say that Rodgers has gotten much better at sensing pressure and rolling out . . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbpfan1231 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 At this point Rodgers IS elite. Now if he gets a career ending injury he won't be all time elite but I would take ver very few QB's over him right now. The dude has everything you want in a QB. He as accuracy He has scramble ability Looks like he has a great understanding of the game He is a leader Teammates respect him Other temas players seem to respect him He has a strong arm. You can't say the same for many QB's in this league right now. A great example would be Cutler - he has all the tools but not sure he understands the game or has respect of even his own players and at this point I don't believe a leader. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 He is a top 3 QB in the NFL and has been nothing short of fantastic since becoming a starter. Let along how he handled the favre dram queen saga every year of threatening to retire. He didnt need the game this past week to "become" elite. He already was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeerLeagueQB Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Brady Mannings Brees Rodgers I'd say he's top 4. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Scorp Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 BradyMannings Brees Rodgers I'd say he's top 4. Might look at Rivers in there too. Would add Flacco, Ryan, Big Ben, and Sanchez in the next tier. Unfortunatley, the Vikings have the worst QB situation in the NFC North Rodgers Cutler Stafford ????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Caveman_Nick Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Might look at Rivers in there too. Would add Flacco, Ryan, Big Ben, and Sanchez in the next tier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Might look at Rivers in there too. Would add Flacco, Ryan, Big Ben, and Sanchez in the next tier. Unfortunatley, the Vikings have the worst QB situation in the NFC North Rodgers Cutler Stafford ????? are you adding sanchez so he can carry the jocks of the other guys on the list ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 are you adding sanchez so he can carry the jocks of the other guys on the list ? You act like that's not an important job. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 are you adding sanchez so he can carry the jocks of the other guys on the list ? Well, to be fair, he was in the Top 27 with respect to QB rating. Only .1 behind Chad Henne! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
T-Scorp Posted January 10, 2011 Author Share Posted January 10, 2011 are you adding sanchez so he can carry the jocks of the other guys on the list ? He has a better playoff record than Rodgers!!! He is 3-1 in his first two years as a starter. (that is more than Broadway Joe) Rodgers is 1-1 in three years as a starter. He has won as many Playoff games as Brady did at the same age. The Jets have made the playoffs in both of his years. What other guys would you rather have that have not been listed? Romo? o-for in playoffs Cutler? maybe he has finally figured it out Cassell? sorry but he wilted in playoffs Shaub? who knows but with that offense he still could not get his team to the playoffs Not talking fantasy here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hoyle Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 (edited) He has a better playoff record than Rodgers!!! He is 3-1 in his first two years as a starter. (that is more than Broadway Joe) Rodgers is 1-1 in three years as a starter. He has won as many Playoff games as Brady did at the same age. The Jets have made the playoffs in both of his years. What other guys would you rather have that have not been listed? Romo? o-for in playoffs Cutler? maybe he has finally figured it out Cassell? sorry but he wilted in playoffs Shaub? who knows but with that offense he still could not get his team to the playoffs Not talking fantasy here. Romo, Flacco, Sanchez....NOT. AR should be up there Brady and Manning....but needs a SB to be truly elite. JMHO This could be that year...after the past three weeks there are no excuses. It is good to see him not doing the Title Belt thing...that had DUMBASS written all over it. Edited January 10, 2011 by Ed Hoyle Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Romo, Flacco, Sanchez....NOT. AR should be up there Brady and Manning....but needs a SB to be truly elite. JMHO This could be that year...after the past three weeks there are no excuses. It is good to see him not doing the Title Belt thing...that had DUMBASS written all over it. Explain to me how the last three weeks spell "title or bust". They destroyed the Giants at home. Certainly impressive but the Giants were in melt-down mode. They gutted out a must win game against a Bears team that was really only playing for pride. Sure they had all their guys in there but you have to think they weren't going to show them anything. They held on to beat a Philly team who, save an amazing 7 minute stretch, didn't do jack down the stretch including losing a game that could have gotten them a 1st round bye against a rookie QB starting for a team in total disarray. Sorry, but that doesn't undo the fact that they've been doing it with smoke and mirrors all season long. They finally get a RB to go for 100 yards and everyone is acting like that's all fixed. Sure, maybe. Honestly, I'm actually pulling for GB and they before they lost like 14 guys to IR, I thought they were the team to beat. But they're doing it on guts and guile right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ed Hoyle Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 Explain to me how the last three weeks spell "title or bust". They destroyed the Giants at home. Certainly impressive but the Giants were in melt-down mode. They gutted out a must win game against a Bears team that was really only playing for pride. Sure they had all their guys in there but you have to think they weren't going to show them anything. They held on to beat a Philly team who, save an amazing 7 minute stretch, didn't do jack down the stretch including losing a game that could have gotten them a 1st round bye against a rookie QB starting for a team in total disarray. Sorry, but that doesn't undo the fact that they've been doing it with smoke and mirrors all season long. They finally get a RB to go for 100 yards and everyone is acting like that's all fixed. Sure, maybe. Honestly, I'm actually pulling for GB and they before they lost like 14 guys to IR, I thought they were the team to beat. But they're doing it on guts and guile right now. They beat a Giants team that has been good on and off. They beat a Bears team that won the division. They beat an Eagles team at home (a tough place to win). All of these are WINS which helps a team, such as GB, to gain momentum. Don't get me wrong, I am not a fan of TT and MM. But, they have GB in a good place right now....PLAYING AS A TEAM. Even though they've had injuries, backups are playing like they should. That's one of my gripes against TT not pulling in FA, but drafting depth that weren't playing at a high level. They are now and I'm eating crow. I still think MM is too conservative late in games (Play to win...dont play just not to lose.). When one part of the team is struggling another is picking up the slack. That's where they have struggled the past two years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Living the Dream Posted January 10, 2011 Share Posted January 10, 2011 (edited) He has a better playoff record than Rodgers!!! He is 3-1 in his first two years as a starter. (that is more than Broadway Joe) Rodgers is 1-1 in three years as a starter. He has won as many Playoff games as Brady did at the same age. The Jets have made the playoffs in both of his years. What other guys would you rather have that have not been listed? Romo? o-for in playoffsCutler? maybe he has finally figured it out Cassell? sorry but he wilted in playoffs Shaub? who knows but with that offense he still could not get his team to the playoffs Not talking fantasy here. Romo beat Filthadelphia 3 times last yr, once in the playoffs. The exact same thing Rodgers just did. Well Beat Philly in the playoffs that is. There is no way after just 1 playoff win, Im putting anywhere near the top 3, especially after the guys listed below have superbowl rings. Brady Roeth Manning Brees Manning In fact, Im not sure I put him above Rivers either. Rivers has won several playoff games, and is every bit as good as Rodgers in every phase but running, but Running has got Rodgers hurt now twice with concussions, so how smart is that really Rodgers is more hype than substance IMO. And you said not fantasy, how can you put a guy that has 1 playoff win ever, in elite status. Just crazy packer talk here after winning a game, everyone predicted you would win, against a team that was without its best offensive weapon half the game, and missed 2 field goals. GB survived that game, Philly was driving and Vick made a poor decision to throw that ball in the end zone instead of check down and continue the drive. GB loses that game, are we having this conversation. So the GB defense all of a sudden makes him elite? I think not. E2A: Im not hating on Rodgers. He is very very good. But this elite talk is premature at this point. Edited January 10, 2011 by Living the Dream Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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