DMD Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Dallas (actually Arlington) is going to host this year's Super Bowl and it is expected to bring in a lot of people who will spend their money on our hotels, food, hookers, alcohol, cabs, etc. and stimulate the economy while allowing the world to see the mothership that Jerry Jones built. And the stadium is huge and impressive. Everyone who is anyone in football will be here in the area. It is such a great thing for the area and the NFL. And I am already so sick of it. I suppose much of that comes from the fact the Cowboys had a historic crash and burn and will be attending only if they can afford tickets which apparently no one outside of millionaires can. But no city has hosted a SB and had their team in it so every year this happens elsewhere. The SB completely dominates the media here understandably. I'm just sick of hearing about every nuance and detail about it. To me it is like laying the groundwork to ask a super hot girl with questionable morals to the prom all year, then asking her only to get shot down in front of the entire school and yet you still have to host the prom at your house even though you are not going. Oh Boy! I'll enjoy the game I am sure. And hosting the SB is a great thing and an honor. But man... this would have been a whole lot better not just watching two other teams have fun. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEC=UGA Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Dallas (actually Arlington) is going to host this year's Super Bowl and it is expected to bring in a lot of people who will spend their money on our hotels, food, hookers, alcohol, cabs, etc. and stimulate the economy while allowing the world to see the mothership that Jerry Jones built. And the stadium is huge and impressive. Everyone who is anyone in football will be here in the area. It is such a great thing for the area and the NFL. And I am already so sick of it. I suppose much of that comes from the fact the Cowboys had a historic crash and burn and will be attending only if they can afford tickets which apparently no one outside of millionaires can. But no city has hosted a SB and had their team in it so every year this happens elsewhere. The SB completely dominates the media here understandably. I'm just sick of hearing about every nuance and detail about it. To me it is like laying the groundwork to ask a super hot girl with questionable morals to the prom all year, then asking her only to get shot down in front of the entire school and yet you still have to host the prom at your house even though you are not going. Oh Boy! I'll enjoy the game I am sure. And hosting the SB is a great thing and an honor. But man... this would have been a whole lot better not just watching two other teams have fun. I remember the one time we hosted it here in Atlanta, what a disaster. The city handled the whole thing very poorly, panhandlers were annoying everyone, and the traffic plan was a freaking nightmare. On the plus side, Ray Lewis only killed one person that week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustOfBeenDrunk Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 When it was hosted here at Stanford things went very smoothly , all considered Traffic was the biggest problems we had ,, we are not known for public transportation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osu1322 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Well the SB does more than just stimulates the local economy... I was reading an article that Papa John's and Pizza Hut are expecting somewhere in the range of 100% increase in sales during SB Sunday. I'm expecting the pizza shop i work for to schedule everyone for that Sunday and have a ton of deliveries Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted January 25, 2011 Author Share Posted January 25, 2011 If there is one inescapable fact about living around Dallas it is that every other road is under construction at all times and traffic can be horrible because of it. The roads coming out of DFW airport are even under construction. I can only picture 100,000 people from Wisconsin and Pennsylvania trying to get around Dallas pounding their dashboard while yelling "how does anyone get to anywhere here?". Actually those would be the people from Pittsburgh. I picture the Wisconsinites just wide-eyed and scared to speak. Jerry wants the record for attendance so they are allowing people to STAND OUTSIDE THE STADIUM for $200 each and be counted in the attendance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEC=UGA Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Interesting read: When Gov.-elect Nathan Deal and Atlanta Mayor Kasim Reed told the NFL they hope to woo the Super Bowl back to town, the NFL played coy. The Super Bowl has plenty of suitors, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell said last week. Winning cities tend to have brand-new stadiums. Atlanta's chances may improve if it built one, too, he hinted. That costs money, which boosters think the event can generate. Atlanta's last Super Bowl in 2000 had an economic impact of $292 million, according to a study backed by the Atlanta Sports Council, which aims to build the city's reputation as the "sports capital of the world." That figure has been repeated in media accounts and academic research for a decade. That seems like a nice little nest egg, but does the game really bring in that much money? Festivities for the nation's biggest regular event last for a week and attract celebrity guests and corporate tycoons willing to pay for luxury rental cars, hotel suites and fine dining that are well beyond the means of typical tourists. Still, skeptics say that even that degree of excess cannot support economic impact projections for the Super Bowl. Estimates for upcoming games have passed the half-billion mark. AJC PolitiFact Georgia interviewed independent sports economists to see whether they have come to a consensus on the game's worth. They haven't. Some place the amount in the tens of millions. Its harshest critics think its net effect is zero. But they do agree on this: Independent economists come up with much lower estimates than boosters do. They warn that boosters' estimates do not adequately acknowledge that a mega-event may drive away other potential visitors. They can bring such large crowds and tangled traffic that conventions opt to move elsewhere. Plus, the frenzied activity could prompt locals to stay at home. This can actually lower spending at restaurants and movie theaters. Estimates must also consider where the money is going. If visitors patronize chain restaurants and hotels based outside of the Atlanta area and buy T-shirts and caps licensed by an out-of-town sports league, the bulk of their money isn't creating local wealth. It's heading elsewhere. Further complicating the matter is that the Super Bowl's impact won't be the same in all cities. It might pack more economic punch in Detroit, which doesn't get many tourists during January or February, than it would in Miami, where hotels fill up that time of year whether or not the game is in town. Now back to the 2000 Super Bowl, which didn't go smoothly. An ice storm blanketed Atlanta, and Baltimore Ravens linebacker Ray Lewis was arrested on murder charges after a fight in Buckhead. He pleaded guilty to an obstruction of justice charge in exchange for testifying against his co-defendants. The Tennessee Titans battled back from a 16-point deficit before losing 23-16 to the St. Louis Rams. About 94,000 people visited the city, 87 percent of whom stayed in hotels an average of 3.7 days, according to a 2000 article in The Atlanta Journal-Constitution. The Atlanta Sports Council obtained its economic impact estimate with the help of the consulting firm McKinsey & Co. and Bruce Seaman, a Georgia State University economist who studies sports and cultural events. He regularly completes economic impact studies on local institutions. We requested a copy of the original 2000 estimate from Seaman and the Sports Council, but neither was able to locate one. Seaman wrote an abstract of his findings, but not a full report. He did provide an unedited version of a letter he wrote to the Atlanta Business Chronicle that explained his methodology. We used this, a working paper he wrote that touched on the subject, and media coverage to bolster our understanding of the estimate. Seaman said the Sports Council asked for his help because he's skeptical about economic impact estimates. Critics blasted the NFL for an estimate of the 1999 Super Bowl in Miami that topped $350 million. The council hoped to avoid a similar problem in Atlanta. Here's how the study worked: It estimated the game's impact on gross regional product, personal income, employment and tax revenue. It surveyed visitors on their spending and interviewed hotel, car rental and restaurant operators. It also incorporated NFL spending. To avoid overestimating the impact, Seaman adjusted his figures to exclude money that would not go to local vendors and workers, and he considered whether the Super Bowl would displace other visitors. Seaman also looked at hotel occupancy, airport traffic and tax receipts. The data were plugged into a mathematical model that Georgia State economists developed to estimate the economic impact of large events. It gave them $292 million. But this number needs heavy qualification. It's not quite as it has been portrayed by the media and academics. The first qualification is that $292 million represents the economic impact estimate for all of Georgia, including direct spending and longer-term effects as the money made its way across the state. The original estimate for the game's economic impact on metro Atlanta was actually $215 million. The bigger problem is the original estimate is outdated. In 2005, during Atlanta's failed bid for the 2009 Super Bowl, Seaman took another look at the 2000 Super Bowl economic impact figure and revised it down to $182 million for the metro area. Now, Seaman thinks that $150 million may be a safer bet, he told AJC PolitiFact Georgia. That's in today's dollars. The estimate sank because Seaman fine-tuned the economic model in the decade since the Rams-Titans faceoff. Some significant adjustments included changes in how much fans spent on hotel accommodations and food, beverage and retail purchases outside the Georgia Dome. For instance, Seaman used to think spectators (excluding media) spent more than $100 per night on hotels, based on double-occupancy. Now he thinks that figure is $70.33. This change knocks millions off the estimate. "In retrospect, even the $182 million figure is too high," Seaman said. "But is there a positive economic impact? I contend 'yes.' " To sum up, the Sports Council's original $292 million figure was once correct, but it took on a life of its own. It was used without specifying that it measures the impact statewide, not for the metro area. And now it's no longer accurate. The true impact is likely $150 million. It might have been an OK figure to use in the early 2000s. But it's been revised downward, which means it's now False. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menudo Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I would just like to thank Jerry Jones & the Dallas Cowboys for building such a beautiful place for the Steelers to win their 7th Super Bowl in. That was very gracious of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennykravitz2004 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Dallas highways (aka parking lots) are awful. Every time I've been there, a 30 minute drive anywhere else takes 2x or 3x as long. Unreal. From DFW to Cotton Bowl area (MLK Blvd) took over an hour! Unless you're leaving at the crack of dawn, but anything after 8-9 am, and you can kiss the next 2 hours of your life goodbye... That was the one thing I never looked forward to in Dallas. Although I did have a guy ask me if I would trade a leather jacket for a tank of gas as I was filling up my rental... I'm waiting to read reports about the scams. For example, guys were standing behind the store I helped open a few years back during the TX State Fair charging $15 to park, then when the parking area was full, broke into all of the cars! No idea how things are around Jerry's palace though. Have to imagine things would be safer there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tbimm Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 New Orleans handles this all very well. Crowd control and traffic are really not an issue at all. Having the hotels and Superdome all centrally located helps a lot. Also when the Superbowl is here it is really only about the 3rd biggest party of the year in New Orleans. Plenty of practice handling these types of events. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish247 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 ...I can only picture 100,000 people from Wisconsin and Pennsylvania trying to get around Dallas pounding their dashboard while yelling "how does anyone get to anywhere here?". Actually those would be the people from Pittsburgh. I picture the Wisconsinites just wide-eyed and scared to speak.... And when they get here, we show them our veggie dip and tell them about the dangers of child prostitution... http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark...r_bowl_fans.php Here's my question. Does Dallas always have to play the role of the most out-of-it parents in the world turning high school into a living hell for their own kids? So true. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingfish247 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 (edited) New Orleans handles this all very well. Crowd control and traffic are really not an issue at all. Having the hotels and Superdome all centrally located helps a lot. Also when the Superbowl is here it is really only about the 3rd biggest party of the year in New Orleans. Plenty of practice handling these types of events. That would be because New Orleans is not intent on running their city like a 17th century colony of Puritans. Also, New Orleans is actually interested in being a great city rather than something that can be sold and/or paved over with parking lots or new highways. Edited January 25, 2011 by kingfish247 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menudo Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 And when they get here, we show them our veggie dip and tell them about the dangers of child prostitution... http://blogs.dallasobserver.com/unfairpark...r_bowl_fans.php So true. That article was funny. I'll be watching the Super Bowl with my wife, Mom & son just like the last one. I want my son to know when he is older that we watched the Super Bowls together. Hopefully, unlike me, who had them win 4 from ages 0-5, but, waited until I was 31, and my Dad had just passed before seeing them win one again (Yes, I know I'm still luckier than many other fans), I hope the Steelers win some that me and my son can watch together when he is old enough to remember it. Although, I do have brief memories of 1979 when the Steelers and Pirates both won it. I was 5, and I still have some visions of it. I don't remember anything about the others. Super Bowls are simply too expensive. Don't get me wrong, if I was given a cheap ticket, I would go. However, after now attending one, I can't imagine anything being more exciting than watching an AFC Championship game at your home stadium. The true fans are there, not just the ones rich enough for Super Bowl tickets. It is one giant party, and if they win, it becomes a great memory that will stay with you forever. As long as I have the means to do it, I will attend every home AFC Championship game the Steelers are in moving forward. When my son is old enough, I will take him with me. However, with the way a small group of Steelers fans acted at the game, I don't know when I will be ready to take my son. I was embarrassed by a few of my own fans sitting near me. Jets fans were doing nothing to bring it on and these a$$holes were shooting their mouths off to them. I told them to grow up, but, they were young, drunken idiots who didn't care what any of us thought. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Pimp Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Jets fans were doing nothing to bring it on and these a$$holes were shooting their mouths off to them. I told them to grow up, but, they were young, drunken idiots who didn't care what any of us thought. Maybe not at the game but they've done enough talking recently to "bring it on". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 DMD .. I will most likely go to the Super Bowl. So any tips about Dallas/Arlington would be most helpful. TIA . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Pimp Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 DMD .. I will most likely go to the Super Bowl. So any tips about Dallas/Arlington would be most helpful. TIA . . I'll also be there (not inside the stadium though) so I'll take any tips/advice as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Menudo Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 (edited) Maybe not at the game but they've done enough talking recently to "bring it on". I was only referring to those sitting near me. They did nothing to deserve the verbal attack by a few idiot Steelers fans. Also, the Jets fans that I ran into throughout the weekend and at the game were great. Edited January 25, 2011 by Menudo Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 I was only referring to those sitting near me. They did nothing to deserve the verbal attack by a few idiot Steelers fans. Also, the Jets fans that I ran into throughout the weekend and at the game were great. I went to the NFC Championship game at Lambeau Fied several years ago when the Packers lost to Giants in overtime. The Giants fans were 99% great . . . except for several douchebags. The one common denominator? They ALL were wearing Jeremy Shockey spamshirts . . . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargerz Posted January 25, 2011 Share Posted January 25, 2011 Back in the day when San Diego was allowed to host Super Bowls (:sigh:) I remember that the media hype here was over the top. Every local news program started with extensive coverage of the upcoming Super Bowl. After two weeks of that I was ready to vomit. In addition it seemed like a souvenir stand or memorabilia store sprang up on every street. It was truly capitalism at its most excessive finest. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Living the Dream Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 ESPN Dallas says there are parking spaces going for $900.. http://sports.espn.go.com/dallas/nfl/news/story?id=6060856 Just crazy.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby's Hubby Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 everybody complaining about Dallas roads? give me a break, yall must not have ever been to New Orleans (no offense Rajn Cajn). Now, I will admit Arlington is gonna have some bad traffic, but just stay off of 360 and I-30 as much as you can. And for God's sake, you will never get a seat at Pappadeaux, so don't even try. LoLuck Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 If there is one inescapable fact about living around Dallas it is that every other road is under construction at all times and traffic can be horrible because of it. The roads coming out of DFW airport are even under construction. I can only picture 100,000 people from Wisconsin and Pennsylvania trying to get around Dallas pounding their dashboard while yelling "how does anyone get to anywhere here?". Actually those would be the people from Pittsburgh. I picture the Wisconsinites just wide-eyed and scared to speak. Jerry wants the record for attendance so they are allowing people to STAND OUTSIDE THE STADIUM for $200 each and be counted in the attendance. I drove through DFW airport to avoid 114... Every lane heading to the toll booths were closed sans one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Living the Dream Posted January 27, 2011 Share Posted January 27, 2011 everybody complaining about Dallas roads? give me a break, yall must not have ever been to New Orleans (no offense Rajn Cajn). Now, I will admit Arlington is gonna have some bad traffic, but just stay off of 360 and I-30 as much as you can. And for God's sake, you will never get a seat at Pappadeaux, so don't even try. LoLuck Rajn lives in Mississippi, not New Orleans. How bout no offense Slayer or Tbimm.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh B Tool Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 So the Los Angeles Rams playing @ the Rose Bowl wouldn't be considered a home team hosting? Even if they got home jobbed by the Steelers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh B Tool Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 Also heard the Dallas area is way short on strippers for the big game? Any truth to that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaman Posted January 29, 2011 Share Posted January 29, 2011 The construction is not that bad, the drivers... Take a taxi whenever you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You can post now and register later. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.