theprofessor Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Care to elaborate? Sure, ...... he hasn't proven anything in this league and you need to look no further than the final game of the season when he played horrible against a porous Dallas Cowboy defense at home. I'd give up a 3rd, on promise, but nothing more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Sure, ...... he hasn't proven anything in this league and you need to look no further than the final game of the season when he played horrible against a porous Dallas Cowboy defense at home. I'd give up a 3rd, on promise, but nothing more. He's certainly no Jake Locker, that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 (edited) I mean the guy hasn't proven a thing and after a couple of games as the starter seemed to be schemed into mistakes and holding the ball. Sounds like you are describing Romo to me Edited February 1, 2011 by i_am_the_swammi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Sure, ...... he hasn't proven anything in this league and you need to look no further than the final game of the season when he played horrible against a porous Dallas Cowboy defense at home. I'd give up a 3rd, on promise, but nothing more. In all seriousness, if you were a general manager drafting in the top 12 and your franchise really needed a quarterback, could you commit your franchise to a $35 million investment for Blaine Gabbert? Could you spend a top-ten pick and $30 million in hopes that Newton might someday have a 2010 Michael Vick season instead of the much more likely Vince Young career path? Kolb has already been trained for 4 years in a pass-happy system, and he comes with an extended warranty of sorts (1 more year under contract for only $1.4 million). It's not a stretch that the Eagles could gain a first round pick from one of the 6-9 teams in need of a QB, but if one of the quarterback deficient teams was willing to part with their early second round pick, they could conceivably come out of the draft’s first two rounds with a highly rated college player and an NFL-ready starting quarterback. Nothing more than a 3rd? That may be FF talking and not reality my friend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 as I said before, put Kolb behind a capable OL and I think he'll get things done... the Eagles OL was mediocre at best to horrible at times (especially at the time Kolb was at the helm)...so whoever goes after him should have a good OL in place, he would do well... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprofessor Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 He's certainly no Jake Locker, that's for sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprofessor Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 In all seriousness, if you were a general manager drafting in the top 12 and your franchise really needed a quarterback, could you commit your franchise to a $35 million investment for Blaine Gabbert? Could you spend a top-ten pick and $30 million in hopes that Newton might someday have a 2010 Michael Vick season instead of the much more likely Vince Young career path?Kolb has already been trained for 4 years in a pass-happy system, and he comes with an extended warranty of sorts (1 more year under contract for only $1.4 million). It's not a stretch that the Eagles could gain a first round pick from one of the 6-9 teams in need of a QB, but if one of the quarterback deficient teams was willing to part with their early second round pick, they could conceivably come out of the draft’s first two rounds with a highly rated college player and an NFL-ready starting quarterback. Nothing more than a 3rd? That may be FF talking and not reality my friend. I see your point and agree with you. As a Seahawk fan though I feel their first two picks need to be offensive line, defensive back. I would rather fill their needs with elite type players out of college. Draft a project QB in the 3rd to 6th rounds and have them learn under Hasselbeck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TDFFFreak Posted February 1, 2011 Share Posted February 1, 2011 Sure, ...... he hasn't proven anything in this league and you need to look no further than the final game of the season when he played horrible against a porous Dallas Cowboy defense at home. I'd give up a 3rd, on promise, but nothing more. You do realize that in that game Kolb was playing with what basically amounted to the Eagles' second team? I certainly wouldn't judge by that game alone. He clearly has not had enough real game experience to make a sure-footed judgement. It'll be on mostly speculation, but some team out there should pony up a minimum of a 2nd rounder for the upside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprofessor Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 You do realize that in that game Kolb was playing with what basically amounted to the Eagles' second team? I I realize that so my point probably wasn't a fair one but he looked so bad in that game against one of the worst pass defenses in the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shorttynaz Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 I was under the impression that the Eagles were still only listening to offers of a 1st and another high pick. I'm not sure I'd go that high, but if the Seahawks offered #25, I'd be optimistic. And he'll stay in Philly.. They'll get about as far as the Chargers did with their demands for Vincent Jackson.. Kolb hasn't proven ANYTHING to warrant another team giving up the top half of their draft to take a chance on him.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 In all seriousness, if you were a general manager drafting in the top 12 and your franchise really needed a quarterback, could you commit your franchise to a $35 million investment for Blaine Gabbert? Could you spend a top-ten pick and $30 million in hopes that Newton might someday have a 2010 Michael Vick season instead of the much more likely Vince Young career path?Kolb has already been trained for 4 years in a pass-happy system, and he comes with an extended warranty of sorts (1 more year under contract for only $1.4 million). It's not a stretch that the Eagles could gain a first round pick from one of the 6-9 teams in need of a QB, but if one of the quarterback deficient teams was willing to part with their early second round pick, they could conceivably come out of the draft’s first two rounds with a highly rated college player and an NFL-ready starting quarterback. Nothing more than a 3rd? That may be FF talking and not reality my friend. Well said. That's it in a nutshell. If you need a QB, you need a QB. There's been a very recent trend of high 1st round picks panning out very nicely, but, historically, it's the riskiest investment you can make. Sure, if you've got a capable guy under center who is simply at the end of his career, you may prefer to take your chances with Dalton or someone like that in the 3rd. But that's not the case for several teams and the veteran hired guns out there are certainly no more appealing than Kolb and, unlike him, come with the reality that you still very much need to address the future of the position in this draft. Is Kolb completely proven? Absolutely not. But he is far more so than any of the 3-4 QBs teams are going to use 1st round picks on this spring. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebartender Posted February 2, 2011 Share Posted February 2, 2011 (edited) Trade Kold and Desean Jackson to AZ for Fitzgerald. Edited February 2, 2011 by ebartender Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprofessor Posted February 3, 2011 Share Posted February 3, 2011 (edited) Trade Kold and Desean Jackson to AZ for Fitzgerald. If I'm an Eagle fan there's no way I do that. If I'm a Cardinal fan that deal would be done in a heartbeat. Edited February 3, 2011 by theprofessor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ebartender Posted February 4, 2011 Share Posted February 4, 2011 If I'm an Eagle fan there's no way I do that. If I'm a Cardinal fan that deal would be done in a heartbeat. I like Desean's play-making ability but with his size I'm not sure how long he can play. On top of that he is already yapping about getting paid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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