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I am not convinced that Moss is done but last year was certainly no warm and fuzzy about what is left. He is just 34 - consider Terrell Owens is 4 years older and caught 43 touchdowns since turning 34. Moss was playing as well as ever until he was dumped by the Pats early last season and it was just wierd how he suddenly just did nothing. I would be obviously concerned with him this year and on going but still hold out a little optimism if he lands in a good spot that he could be worthy of being a WR1 again.

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He's mentally done, IMO. I was astounded that the Titans hardly targeted him at all.........it had to be because they thought he was mailing it in.

 

This was how I viewed things as well. I just couldn't understand why Moss was taking a back seat to Britt and why he was so willing. It just didn't make sense to me, especially when Britt was injured and Moss had a chance to come in and claim the top spot. Yeah I know the Tiatns weren't known for having a potent passing attack but they were putting up nice numbers at times last year and Britt had some really big games. I was thinking Moss was going to step right into that role. Maybe it was because he didn't know the system and doesn't run anything but a go route? But him mentally mailing it in made sense.

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His heart is still New England. I don't think he will have any value with any team except the Pats. It was clear in his interview after the Viking / Patriot game that he still wants to be there. He kinda reminds me of a kid going off too summer camp and having to leave because he is home sick.

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His heart is still New England. I don't think he will have any value with any team except the Pats. It was clear in his interview after the Viking / Patriot game that he still wants to be there. He kinda reminds me of a kid going off too summer camp and having to leave because he is home sick.

 

The Pats clearly needed him in their playoff game against the Jets to help spread the D. I could see the Pats going after him this offseason. They received their 3rd round pick for him and got Branch back so why not run out there with Welker, Moss and Branch combined with Gronkowski and Hernandez. Randy can't be expecting a big pay day after last season anyway so I could see this working out.

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I am not convinced that Moss is done but last year was certainly no warm and fuzzy about what is left. He is just 34 - consider Terrell Owens is 4 years older and caught 43 touchdowns since turning 34. Moss was playing as well as ever until he was dumped by the Pats early last season and it was just wierd how he suddenly just did nothing. I would be obviously concerned with him this year and on going but still hold out a little optimism if he lands in a good spot that he could be worthy of being a WR1 again.

Terrell Owens and Randy Moss are different animals all together. I don't think TO's success gives any insight to what Moss can do. Moss doesn't have as many tricks in his bag.

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Terrell Owens and Randy Moss are different animals all together. I don't think TO's success gives any insight to what Moss can do. Moss doesn't have as many tricks in his bag.

And also isn't the physical specimen TO is that has allowed him to play productively well beyond most who play the position. Moss has seen his best days and mediocrity is inevitable.

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I think going back to why the Pats traded him in the first place is needed here. He has a history of what I will go aherad and call mental stabilty problems, at least as far as his level of dedication and work ethic ON the field goes. Isn't that why the Pats dumped him in the first place? He just isn't a team player, and I have to think Belichick came to think of him as a cancer on a team that is known for putting team first.

 

Moss can still play, but ONLY if he wants to, and whether or not he is in a particular mood to play for any given team at any given time seems to dictate his value as a NFL player. I really don't know if there is a team out there willing to give him another chance. Burress has a better chance of being signed and contributing. The guy is a sulker. He always has been. I think he goes off sulking into the sunset.

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lol how about going from Brady to Collins as QB? there's some motivation.

so you are saying moss is a talentless hack that has to be in the right scheme to succeed

 

and fwiw, Kerry Collins ranks 29th all time in NFL history in passing TDs.

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I think going back to why the Pats traded him in the first place is needed here. He has a history of what I will go aherad and call mental stabilty problems, at least as far as his level of dedication and work ethic ON the field goes. Isn't that why the Pats dumped him in the first place? He just isn't a team player, and I have to think Belichick came to think of him as a cancer on a team that is known for putting team first.

 

Moss can still play, but ONLY if he wants to, and whether or not he is in a particular mood to play for any given team at any given time seems to dictate his value as a NFL player. I really don't know if there is a team out there willing to give him another chance. Burress has a better chance of being signed and contributing. The guy is a sulker. He always has been. I think he goes off sulking into the sunset.

 

this is pretty much it. i can see pats bringing back with some kind of contract stacked with incentives. if things don't work out, they can just cut him.

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Moss obviously lacks the maturity and perserverance to give 100% when things don't go 100% his way. As batsh!t crazy as TO is, all you ever hear about him football-wise is that he's a workaholic, keeps his body in pristine condition, and his teammates love him (a few QBs excepted).

 

I don't think Moss is incapable of putting up top-12 WR numbers this season, but I have no idea what I should look for to assure me that his next opportunity will inspire his full effort.

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so you are saying moss is a talentless hack that has to be in the right scheme to succeed

 

and fwiw, Kerry Collins ranks 29th all time in NFL history in passing TDs.

Oh, come on keg - if you look up "journeyman" in the dictionary, you'll probably see Collins' picture.

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so you are saying moss is a talentless hack that has to be in the right scheme to succeed

 

and fwiw, Kerry Collins ranks 29th all time in NFL history in passing TDs.

 

 

LOL

right up there with Dave Kreig

 

compiler. His best years were 10 years ago

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LOL

right up there with Dave Kreig

 

compiler. His best years were 10 years ago

 

 

His best years weren't even that good - career-best passer rating - 85.4. Career best td passes - 22.

 

All this in the most passer-friendly era the NFL has ever seen.

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Oh, come on keg - if you look up "journeyman" in the dictionary, you'll probably see Collins' picture.

 

 

LOL

right up there with Dave Kreig

 

compiler. His best years were 10 years ago

you two clearly missed who my reply was geared towards...you got caught in me net :wacko:

 

remember accoriding to waterman moss is so great that it really shouldn't matter who his QB is...even if it is a journeyman compiler like Collins

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Only impact he'd have would be with a premium QB. He stopped "trying" to make plays back in Minnesota v1. If he ends up somewhere the QB pins it on him like Brady did he could still cause some damage. I'd love seeing him in Green Bay or New Orleans.

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He had no impact whatsoever at the beginning of last season. The wheels were coming off the wagon before the season started. I think the Pats dumping him shook him up quite a bit...not sure he's used to have his bluff called like that. He's used to being in the driver's seat with people drooling over his "ability to stretch the D" blah, blah, blah.

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The Pats clearly needed him in their playoff game against the Jets to help spread the D. I could see the Pats going after him this offseason. They received their 3rd round pick for him and got Branch back so why not run out there with Welker, Moss and Branch combined with Gronkowski and Hernandez. Randy can't be expecting a big pay day after last season anyway so I could see this working out.

Totally disagree. The Pats lost because their game plan sucked as did their execution. They had no answer for what the Jets were showing them and I hardly think that overfocusing on their supposed 'deep threat' would have made the difference.

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