lennykravitz2004 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 How early is too early for Gates this year in a redraft? Is 1.10 too early? I really don't think he'll be there at 3.10. I took Andre Johnson last year at 1.8, and the numbers (while Gates was healthy) were pretty comparable, if not in favor of Gates. All opinions are welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Uh, yeah. TE is pretty deep - or at least deeper than it has been - this year. He has a history of injuries. Definitely my #1 TE but there's no way I waste a first-rounder on him. You say he won't be there at 3.10, and you're probably right. Why not take him with your 2nd rounder? Still a little early, IMO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennykravitz2004 Posted July 21, 2011 Author Share Posted July 21, 2011 Why not take him with your 2nd rounder? His health issues are exactly the reason I'm asking for others' opinions. We use a "snake" draft - I pick at 1.10 and 2.1. (read between those lines ) Who else is in his stratosphere? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 His health issues are exactly the reason I'm asking for others' opinions. We use a "snake" draft - I pick at 1.10 and 2.1. (read between those lines ) Who else is in his stratosphere? Oh, guess I'm stuck in the 12-team league mold. In a PPR league I'd be pretty darn happy with Gates, Clark or Witten. I'd be pleased with Davis or Finley. The next tier down is a big group and would be who I'd target much, much later if I missed on the top-5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Oh, guess I'm stuck in the 12-team league mold. In a PPR league I'd be pretty darn happy with Gates, Clark or Witten. I'd be pleased with Davis or Finley. The next tier down is a big group and would be who I'd target much, much later if I missed on the top-5. I'm also of the opinion that systems are clearly opening up to TE more than in the past, at least since the salad days of early Gonzo and Wesley Walls. Gates probably comes at a premium this year, and at 2.1 (11th overall) I wouldn't touch him in favor of a Roddy White or Reggie Wayne. Moeaki could be a later round steal this year, along with the pair in NE. Lottsa depth - and I do love the guy - but FF wise there are better ways to spend your top draft picks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Muto Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 Whats your scoring system ? PPR ? 1.5 TE PPR ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennykravitz2004 Posted July 21, 2011 Author Share Posted July 21, 2011 Whats your scoring system ? PPR ? 1.5 TE PPR ? non-PPR 1 point / 10 yards receiving /rushing 6 pts TD catch/rush Anything over 100 for a week is a pretty decent score. My recollection is the dude was most consistent player until the injury. And that toe issue is kind of scary to me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byron2112 Posted July 21, 2011 Share Posted July 21, 2011 (edited) He is in a league of his own, like having a #1 WR in your TE slot. If I remember correctly he was top scoring fantasy player overall when he went down in my leagues... 'course Vincent Jackson wasn't there either, so I'm not sure how that will pan out... I don't believe I would draft him in the first round, but I wouldn't hesitate in the 2nd. I don't remember him having a toe problem(could be mistaken), but he did have Plantar Fasciitis which is an inflammation of the ligaments under your foot, and very painful... except his was torn, and I can't imagine how tough the guy is attempting to play on that.Just the inflammation is like someone sticking a knife in the bottom of your foot... The guy I wouldn't touch is Clark... now there's a heart breaker... Edited July 21, 2011 by byron2112 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby's Hubby Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 Witten again had 90+ catches last year and with Garrett at the helm expect more than his usual 6 TDs. I like Witten rounds later... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballjoe Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 I took Gates at 3.1. I wanted Mike Williams / TB but since he was taken just before me I took Gates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearBroncos Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 You need to keep in mind that VJ will be back and play the full season. I think Gate's production takes a substantial hit. Substantial in that he will still be the top producing TE but no where near where he was when healthy last year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUMbotron Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 From upcoming JUMbotron - "Gates is still only 31 and remember, last year he was on pace for 1500 yards & 22 TDs after five games." I'm gonna be tempted to take him in the 2nd round of my big local draft, where our league gives huge bonuses for 100 yds -- Having tight ends that manage that feat 3-4 times is a big deal for us. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chargerz Posted July 22, 2011 Share Posted July 22, 2011 You need to keep in mind that VJ will be back and play the full season. I think Gate's production takes a substantial hit. Substantial in that he will still be the top producing TE but no where near where he was when healthy last year. I agree with you. Gates will still be a production beast because Rivers loves to throw to him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby's Hubby Posted July 23, 2011 Share Posted July 23, 2011 From upcoming JUMbotron - "Gates is still only 31 and remember, last year he was on pace for 1500 yards & 22 TDs after five games." I'm gonna be tempted to take him in the 2nd round of my big local draft, where our league gives huge bonuses for 100 yds -- Having tight ends that manage that feat 3-4 times is a big deal for us. Jumbo, with all due respect, I will be taking Roddy White in the 2nd and you can have Gates. Then I will come back later and get Witten. Good to see you back, btw Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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