MustOfBeenDrunk Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Thomas, Demaryius DEN WR Is he going to see the field this year ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepinmofo Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Last I heard he would likely start the season on the PUP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustOfBeenDrunk Posted August 24, 2011 Author Share Posted August 24, 2011 Last I heard he would likely start the season on the PUP. So that means 6 games minimum ,,, correct ? I don't want to turn this into a advise post but wondering if he is worth rostering on a dynasty team or if he is history ? If when he does finally take the field what's the chances of him becoming an elite WR and if those days will come in the next two seasons ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 So that means 6 games minimum ,,, correct ? ? correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
peepinmofo Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 So that means 6 games minimum ,,, correct ? I don't want to turn this into a advise post but wondering if he is worth rostering on a dynasty team or if he is history ? If when he does finally take the field what's the chances of him becoming an elite WR and if those days will come in the next two seasons ? Ill just give you my take on him since I own him in a dynasty. If he starts on the PUP, then yes, 6 games minimum, then they have to decide to roster him or IR him. I believe he had a ruptured achilles (not sure if thats the same as a tear), so even if he does come back, he will likely lose some of his speed/jumping ability. Will he ever be elite? I dont think so. Will he be serviceable? He could, but too hard to say. He is a hold for me for at least one more year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustOfBeenDrunk Posted August 24, 2011 Author Share Posted August 24, 2011 Ill just give you my take on him since I own him in a dynasty. If he starts on the PUP, then yes, 6 games minimum, then they have to decide to roster him or IR him. I believe he had a ruptured achilles (not sure if thats the same as a tear), so even if he does come back, he will likely lose some of his speed/jumping ability. Will he ever be elite? I dont think so. Will he be serviceable? He could, but too hard to say. He is a hold for me for at least one more year. Thanks ,, that was my intention also from the beginning but then along came Williams, Ryan ARI RB season ending injury and we only have (2) IR spots and once you use them IR is not available for the rest of the season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 I believe he had a ruptured achilles correct Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearBroncos Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 He won't ever be the same caliber receiver. He might have to move to TE and become a vertical guy. I don't think he'll ever get the kind of separation they drafted him to be. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 He'll make anyone's IR roster look great. And DEN already had TEs who actually are TEs and can split the seam vertically. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearBroncos Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 (edited) He'll make anyone's IR roster look great. And DEN already had TEs who actually are TEs and can split the seam vertically. Oh, I so agree. Julius Thomas and Green will make great TE's while Fells fills the gap until they are productive in this system. I just think Denver will have to cut their losses and hope someone will garner some interest in him, once he's healthy. Granted, they can't cut him because it would be a 9 million dollar hit against their cap, iirc. Edited August 24, 2011 by BearBroncos Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChampSampson Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 I'd drop him personally. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditkaless Wonders Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 I have him rostered in all leagues that reguire a Demaryius on the roster. Holding in dynasty, but not holding out much hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturphy Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Man... McDaniels really F'd you guys up. I almost can't believe the trail of crap he left behind. Actually, it kind of reminds me of the Mike Sherman as GM years in GB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearBroncos Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 D. Thomas wasn't a bad acquisition. He was actually an awesome one but when you blow out your Achilles, that changes the game but McDaddy had nothing to do with that. Granted, the more I see the trail of destruction from McDaniels, the more I cry... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nuke'em ttg Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 nothin works like a new horse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturphy Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 D. Thomas wasn't a bad acquisition. At what point has he been a good acquisition as a 1st round pick?? He was injured before he got there! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearBroncos Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 At what point has he been a good acquisition as a 1st round pick?? He was injured before he got there! You can't predict injuries. Before his injury, there would have been 32 teams that would have gladly picked him were the Broncos did. He was a good pick. What happens afterwards is besides the point. He is/was a fast, big receiver with excellent hands. He was rated a top 1 draft pick and several teams had him on their radar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTSuper7 Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 (edited) You can't predict injuries. Before his injury, there would have been 32 teams that would have gladly picked him were the Broncos did. He was a good pick. What happens afterwards is besides the point. He is/was a fast, big receiver with excellent hands. He was rated a top 1 draft pick and several teams had him on their radar. Dude, they made a mistake picking Thomas over Dez Bryant. Just admit it. Most everyone was surprised that Dez wasn't the first WR off the board. So I disagree that 31 other teams would have picked Thomas over Bryant in that spot. Edited August 25, 2011 by MTSuper7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturphy Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 You can't predict injuries. Before his injury, there would have been 32 teams that would have gladly picked him were the Broncos did. He was a good pick. What happens afterwards is besides the point. He is/was a fast, big receiver with excellent hands. He was rated a top 1 draft pick and several teams had him on their radar. Well sure... except he was injured before the draft, so you can't just ignore that as a factor in whether he was a bad acquisition or not! Have to disagree with just about everything you're saying here. As I recall he was a debatable 1st round pick. The system he came from was a red flag and you're ignoring that he was in fact injured before the draft. Lots of question marks about him coming out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturphy Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Dude, they made a mistake picking Thomas over Dez Bryant. Just admit it. Most everyone was surprised that Dez wasn't the first WR off the board. So I disagree that 31 other teams would have picked Thomas over Bryant in that spot. Oh yeah.. and this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearBroncos Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Well sure... except he was injured before the draft, so you can't just ignore that as a factor in whether he was a bad acquisition or not! Have to disagree with just about everything you're saying here. As I recall he was a debatable 1st round pick. The system he came from was a red flag and you're ignoring that he was in fact injured before the draft. Lots of question marks about him coming out. Then we agree to disagree. Before his injury, he ran a verified 4.38/40. Hell, a horrid QB in Pryor who has enough stink on him to linger for years was picked up by the Raiders in the "Supplimental draft" for a 3rd for the mere fact he ran a 4.4/40. Imagine the speed with hands and yes, you have a potential 1st round draft pick. McDaniels was a horrid coach and I wrongly defended him, but I just can't see how D. Thomas was considered a back pick, outside of his Achillies injury! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearBroncos Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Dude, they made a mistake picking Thomas over Dez Bryant. Just admit it. Most everyone was surprised that Dez wasn't the first WR off the board. So I disagree that 31 other teams would have picked Thomas over Bryant in that spot. Hind site yes, it was a mistake but again, your predicting an injury. But even some analyst were picking Thomas over Bryant. Dez ran a 4.52/40 at the combine. He was a tad slower and a tad smaller then Thomas but were considered equal regarding hand quality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Then we agree to disagree. Before his injury, he ran a verified 4.38/40. Hell, a horrid QB in Pryor who has enough stink on him to linger for years was picked up by the Raiders in the "Supplimental draft" for a 3rd for the mere fact he ran a 4.4/40. Imagine the speed with hands and yes, you have a potential 1st round draft pick. McDaniels was a horrid coach and I wrongly defended him, but I just can't see how D. Thomas was considered a back pick, outside of his Achillies injury! Except for the part about being picked ahead of Dez, I agree. I loved this guy and was all over him prior to the achilles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustOfBeenDrunk Posted August 25, 2011 Author Share Posted August 25, 2011 Except for the part about being picked ahead of Dez, I agree. I loved this guy and was all over him prior to the achilles. exactly ,,, and if his injury was all that before the NFL draft then why 4 months later was he still a top 4 pick in every FF rookie draft ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sturphy Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 There was a lot of hype built up on Thomas leading up to the draft, and McD bit on it before any other team. Aside from injury, there were questions about his route running and whether the system he was in inflated his receiving stats. So, we can't argue about whether there were questions about him coming out, there were. Now whether another team would have picked him in the 1st round makes Thomas a good "acquisition"? Just have to disagree with that logic. He's still a bust to date. Busts are bad acquisitions. Whether someone else would have made the pick or not, McD did. Now I feel like I'm rubbing it in, and I don't mean to do that Broncos fans. Just glad I didn't pick Thomas in my dynasty that year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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