ced1001 Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Jennings was a machine in 2007/2008 only to go silent in 2009. Got him late last year, but was disappointing until Finley went down. Once Finley was out, Rogers found Jennings again and they lit it up. What do people think about Jennings this year? Will he once again be a beast now that teams have tape on Finley and Driver's even older? Or does he get lost spreading this thing around? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Jennings was a machine in 2007/2008 only to go silent in 2009. Got him late last year, but was disappointing until Finley went down. Once Finley was out, Rogers found Jennings again and they lit it up. What do people think about Jennings this year? Will he once again be a beast now that teams have tape on Finley and Driver's even older? Or does he get lost spreading this thing around? Thanks. 68 catches for 1,113 yards is silent? Sure, he only caught 4 TDs, which was a far cry from the 9 and 12 in years prior, but I wouldn't exactly call that "silent". He ended up as the #22 WR in PPR formats in '09 according to what I'm looking at. Anyways, I think he's good for at least 1,110 yards again and 8-10 TDs. He's the main receiving threat for an offensive juggernaut. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Jennings was a machine in 2007/2008 only to go silent in 2009. Got him late last year, but was disappointing until Finley went down. Once Finley was out, Rogers found Jennings again and they lit it up. What do people think about Jennings this year? Will he once again be a beast now that teams have tape on Finley and Driver's even older? Or does he get lost spreading this thing around? Thanks. Teams had tape on Finely going back to 2009 & that didn't seem to make much difference last year before he got hurt. I think it stands to reason that Jennings numbers will go down from last year as the ball is spread around a bit more, but not enough to cause real concern. Even in the weeks before Finely went out Jennings scored 3 TDs each in different games so it's not really a matter of him disappearing when Finely was not out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 68 catches for 1,113 yards is silent? Sure, he only caught 4 TDs, which was a far cry from the 9 and 12 in years prior, but I wouldn't exactly call that "silent". He ended up as the #22 WR in PPR formats in '09 according to what I'm looking at. Anyways, I think he's good for at least 1,110 yards again and 8-10 TDs. He's the main receiving threat for an offensive juggernaut. I'm pretty sure he means by comparison to his overall 2010 numbers and how they could relate to whether Finely is on the field or not. It's a valid point if you look at the numbers last year on a per game basis of when Finely was there and after he went out and then also compare Jennings 2010 season as a whole to 2009 when Finely played the majority of the season. Jennings has obviously had much better production without Finely there. Whether that trend continues or not is the question. If it does then owners may be drafting him slightly high this year based on possibly inflated numbers from last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelman Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 (edited) Jennings would've been horrible early on if he didn't get those touchdowns... i was an owner and was barely scrapping by But at the same time one can argue that targets that jennings gets are very high quality targets. But me personally... (especially when I track player stats by the minute on Sundays...) prefer quantity over quality. Edited August 25, 2011 by michaelman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billay Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Even in the weeks before Finely went out Jennings scored 3 TDs each in different games so it's not really a matter of him disappearing when Finely was not out there. 2 of those 3 TD games while Finely was still on the field were less than impressive (2 for 18 and a TD and 2 for 25 and a TD). I traded away Jennings in both leagues where I owned him as I suspect he will not live up to his preseason rankings this year. By and large, Jennings has been a disappointment for his owners over the last several years except for the time Finely was out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelman Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 It's similar to a point guard's decisions in basketball. Sure I can create shots for my 3 pt shooter on the wing who is fantastic at bombing it from down town... (ie. going to jennings deep) but in the clutch i'm going to my big man down-low with the size advantage for a dunk. (Finley mismatch for an easy throw in the middle) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 2 of those 3 TD games while Finely was still on the field were less than impressive (2 for 18 and a TD and 2 for 25 and a TD). I traded away Jennings in both leagues where I owned him as I suspect he will not live up to his preseason rankings this year. By and large, Jennings has been a disappointment for his owners over the last several years except for the time Finely was out. Yeah and in a dynasty or keeper league there's no better time than now to trade him. In a redraft though his draft position probably shouldn't change much even if you think he will dip with Finely back. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 I am using the same logic . . and therefore dropping Reggie Wayne way down because dallas Clark is back and healthy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelman Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 (edited) I am using the same logic . . and therefore dropping Reggie Wayne way down because dallas Clark is back and healthy. But it's all in the air when peyton isn't playing And Dallas Clark is a great TE... but I think Finley is a much bigger mismatch. Edited August 25, 2011 by michaelman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 But it's all in the air when peyton isn't playing And Dallas Clark is a great TE... but I think Finley is a much bigger mismatch. I think he was fishing, or at least I hope he was. Jacob Tamme was just as good - if not better - than Dallas Clark last year and Wayne was still a-ok. Back to the question at hand, though... I'm not moving Jennings based on Finley, Driver or anyone else. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Wait . . . wait , , , Jennings will still do very well. Will he get last yeras stats? Doubtful. But he is still easily a top 10 WR again this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 FF points in PPR leagues: Jennings C. Johnson2008 250 2542009 203 181 (Johnson missed 2 games) 2010 260 266 Jennings will be fine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
arnoldg3 Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Donald Driver's role is diminishing.Rodgers continues to improve.( a scary thought.) I see Jennings having a great year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 A lot can be made of Jenning's stat line with Finley on the field last year, but it seems that may be a little misleading. Jennings averaged a healthy 6.5 targets per game when Finley started (it did increase to 8.1 per game; but that could be attributable to a larger sample size instead of an increase in the passing game). So, the only thing you can really take analytical from that is Jennings caught a higher ratio of passes thrown his way when Finley went down. I see Jennings as a pretty safe bet and like him more than some of the other WRs around his ADP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelman Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 FF points in PPR leagues: Jennings C. Johnson 2008 250 254 2009 203 181 (Johnson missed 2 games) 2010 260 266 Jennings will be fine. True but you failed to answer the basis of the question. Will he be SUPER FINE... or just FINE as a 1st round WR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 So, the only thing you can really take analytical from that is Jennings caught a higher ratio of passes thrown his way when Finley went down. About when Finley went down, Jennings was complaining to the brass that he was not getting enough action. They then challenged him to live up to being a #1 and it looks like he did that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 True but you failed to answer the basis of the question. Will he be SUPER FINE... or just FINE as a 1st round WR. Well, he's no Mario Manningham, but I think that his ADP from what I've seen is about right. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michaelman Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Well, he's no Mario Manningham, but I think that his ADP from what I've seen is about right. Ahhhh cheap shot =( on my man crush over manningham... I submit I submit.. no more! Well yeah depending on which ADP you're referring to... this discussion only bumps him 2-3 ranks up or down in rankings. Around his ADP though I think i'd rather take Vincent JAckson.. and maybe miles austin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Donald Driver's role is diminishing.Rodgers continues to improve.( a scary thought.) I see Jennings having a great year. Umm, well if Driver's role diminishes, James Jones, Jordy Nelson, Randall Cobb or a combination of those three will likely see an increase in looks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted August 25, 2011 Share Posted August 25, 2011 Jennings will still do very well. Will he get last yeras stats? Doubtful. But he is still easily a top 10 WR again this year. A lot can be made of Jenning's stat line with Finley on the field last year, but it seems that may be a little misleading. Jennings averaged a healthy 6.5 targets per game when Finley started (it did increase to 8.1 per game; but that could be attributable to a larger sample size instead of an increase in the passing game). So, the only thing you can really take analytical from that is Jennings caught a higher ratio of passes thrown his way when Finley went down. I see Jennings as a pretty safe bet and like him more than some of the other WRs around his ADP. And that's pretty much what I'm saying. His stats will likely dip, but in a redraft it shouldn't make that much of a difference in draft position. If you do think he'll drop long term, provided Finely stays on the field, then now is a great time to trade him in your dynasty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 It's similar to a point guard's decisions in basketball. Sure I can create shots for my 3 pt shooter on the wing who is fantastic at bombing it from down town... (ie. going to jennings deep) but in the clutch i'm going to my big man down-low with the size advantage for a dunk. (Finley mismatch for an easy throw in the middle) Good analogy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Just my opinion, biased as it may be here but Jennings also played without Rodgers for A game and a half without Rodgers. In those two games against the Lions and Patriots he had 8 receptions for 52 yards. Take what that what you may, but the guy has produced 1265-12 1120-4 1292-9 920-12 (missed three games) Which averages out to 1,150. If you prorate his 2007 season he averages 1200 yards a year. The touchdown totals of 12, 4, 9, and 12 only one of those sticks out. I think the 4 touchdown season was an aberration. I'm also in the minority here, but I think Finley will help Jennings productivity this year. Finley has so much hype I think defenses are going to have safties cheating his way. They do that and leave Jennings alone with a single corner and he'll put up monster numbers. 80-1200-10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Good analogy Good analogy, but don't forget about Jennings two pre-season touchdowns... Rodgers has hit Jennings with a nasty backside shoulder pass. Not sure if many corners can do anything about that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted August 26, 2011 Share Posted August 26, 2011 Good analogy, but don't forget about Jennings two pre-season touchdowns... Rodgers has hit Jennings with a nasty backside shoulder pass. Not sure if many corners can do anything about that. Yeah, I saw that and I agree - that showed his (Jennings) ability and it was an incredible catch. I can totally see Jermike getting the yards and catches but maybe not the TDs. He was heading that way last season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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