jdub! Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 What is up with this cheap move? I've seen it in multiple games, including tonight's to disrupt the no huddle. Should the league make a rule against it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanTheMan_5 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 What is up with this cheap move? I've seen it in multiple games, including tonight's to disrupt the no huddle. Should the league make a rule against it? It's pretty bad when 2 guys go out a the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 How in the world do you make a sensible "no fake injury" rule? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 How in the world do you make a sensible "no fake injury" rule? If you stop play because of an injury your team is charged a time out. That would stop it. Or the player who goes down has to remain out for the series. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 If you stop play because of an injury your team is charged a time out. That would stop it. They do that withing the 2-minute warning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 If you stop play because of an injury your team is charged a time out. Not workable. Players do actually get hurt and that would render TOs useless far too often. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Or the player who goes down has to remain out for the series. I was thinking of something along these lines. I haven't seen these "fake injuries", but I don't have the Ticket, so maybe missed said games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 (edited) If you stop play because of an injury your team is charged a time out. The unintended consequences of that would be severely more detrimental than the fake injury strategy itself. The sit out the rest of the series thing is a pretty interesting idea, but a guy getting legitimately banged up and having to stay off the field for a long drive is also far from ideal. Hell, coaches would still probably designate the most replaceable defensive player as the designated injury guy anyhow. Edited September 20, 2011 by bushwacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTSuper7 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Pretty weak sauce IMO. Like taking a dive in soccer or hockey or pretending to get hit by a pitch in baseball. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 They do that withing the 2-minute warning. I know. Not workable. Players do actually get hurt and that would render TOs useless far too often. It is workable, as it's used inside of two minutes. The unintended consequences of that would be severely more detrimental than the fake injury strategy itself. The sit out the rest of the series thing is a pretty interesting idea, but a guy getting legitimately banged up and having to stay off the field for a long drive is also far from ideal. Hell, coaches would still probably designate the most replaceable defensive player as the designated injury guy anyhow. I think it has flaws. Not sure I like it more than the flopping. Just throwing out ideas. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditkaless Wonders Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Just change the name on the back of their jersey to Vagina for the next four games. Seriously the league cannot let football become soccer. If an injury stops play and it is not viewable after the game on an MRI or an x-ray the player should be suspended for a week and the team fined $500,000. This would be a curse to the game if it proliferated at all. I know it has always happened, but really it has been very rarely. If it proliferates it wil make football unwatchable, and with hurry up offenses becomming more common it will increase unless there is a very enforceable rule out there against it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holy Roller Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 (edited) Is it against the rules somewhere to act like you're injured? If not, it's a legitimate tactic. Ranks below calling timeout to "ice" a kicker. But it smells like...an unwashed vagina. Edited September 20, 2011 by The Holy Roller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTed46 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 There's no "fixing" this. I think they should add that if the team has no time-outs to use and an injury time-out has to be used, that player is done for the half. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 It's unenforceable. The only difference between what Celek did and those guys did was the circumstance and you can't let that be the driving factor in a game as physical as the NFL is - it's too risky. It's bush league for sure but with as much as the NFL is worried about safety you can't force a player to hobble around on a sprained ligament or a punctured lung because he doesn't want to cost his team a timeout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 It's kind of like in the Godfather where all the mobsters show up in court with a neck brace or wheelchair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Holy Roller Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 (edited) It's kind of like in the Godfather where all the mobsters show up in court with a neck brace or wheelchair. I think you mean Casino. Edited September 20, 2011 by The Holy Roller Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanTheMan_5 Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 I think you mean Casino. Pretty proud of the worlds largest rocking chair, aye? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Winks Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 If a player goes down for an injury timeout outside of the last 2 minutes, he should have to come off the field for at least one play. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 If a player goes down for an injury timeout outside of the last 2 minutes, he should have to come off the field for at least one play. He does unless the team chooses to burn a timeout. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted September 20, 2011 Share Posted September 20, 2011 Just change the name on the back of their jersey to Vagina for the next four games. This. Seriously the league cannot let football become soccer. And this. If an injury stops play and it is not viewable after the game on an MRI or an x-ray the player should be suspended for a week and the team fined $500,000. This, not so much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub! Posted September 21, 2011 Author Share Posted September 21, 2011 See NBC's fix: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/...ng-of-injuries/ Makes sense. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 (edited) See NBC's fix: http://profootballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/...ng-of-injuries/ Makes sense. What would stop teams from purposely going into no-huddle when a defensive player is legitimately hurt? Dude is paralyzed from the neck down and his team loses a timeout? Edited September 21, 2011 by bushwacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboyGal2011 Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 How about when a kicker fakes getting killed when a rusher is close? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Selly Posted September 21, 2011 Share Posted September 21, 2011 You just change the rule to this: If a player is "injured" enough to stop the progress of the game, then that player has to come off and is the only one that may be substituted for during that break. Furthermore the "injured" player must stay out of the game for at least 1 quarter (15:00 of game time). After all, if he's too hurt to get off the field, he's must be too hurt to play. Any "injuries" in the last two minutes are covered under the current rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jdub! Posted September 21, 2011 Author Share Posted September 21, 2011 (edited) Perhaps if the offense no-huddled on the previous play? Just throwing out ideas. You are definitely providing good reasons why the solutions offered up so far are no-good, bushwacked. edit: but I do like Selly's idea. No excuses. Edited September 21, 2011 by jdub! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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