ReturnToSender Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Hello, my name is Run DMC and I just might be the 1# back and player in PPR leagues this year, would you like to discuss? Man he looks good so far, out shinning all the backs drafted before him, so happy he fell to me at 2-5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripleshot Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 I've got him paired up with Ray Rice. Usually I avoid players with injury histories like him, and I used my entire two minutes in round two deciding between him(Upside but injury prone) and Forte(safe pick) and took the chance on McFadden. I'm smiling as long as he keeps playing every Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Hello, my name is Run DMC and I just might be the 1# back and player in PPR leagues this year, would you like to discuss? You might be, but there's a couple of us out here on the East coast that might disagree. Your friends, LeSean McCoy and Ray Rice Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kwatz Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 How's your groin? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markgugs Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 You might be, but there's a couple of us out here on the East coast that might disagree. Your friends, LeSean McCoy and Ray Rice it's pretty damned close, and right now, he's the best RB, hell player, in FFB (a trend that carried-over from the last 6 games of last year) with standard scoring & .5 PPR (i.e. my leagues) McFadden: 75.2 pts (393 rushing, 84 receiving, 11 catches, 4 TDs, 1 FUM lost) Shady: 73.9 pts (345 rushing, 49 receiving, 9 catches, 5 TDs) R.Rice: 65.7 (229 rushing, 178 receiving, 14 catches, 3 TDs) add to the fact that McFadden DIDN'T get 2 inside-the-5 opportunities @ Denver (Reece 3-yd pass, Campbell 1-yd run), 2 more inside-the-5 opportunities @ Buffalo (M.Bush 1-yd run, Campbell 1-yd run), and finally losing another 1-yd TD run to Bush vs. the Jets, and you have, IMO, the clear-cut #1 player in FFB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthtownWarriors Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Off the bone groin pull................... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 it's pretty damned close, and right now, he's the best RB, hell player, in FFB (a trend that carried-over from the last 6 games of last year) with standard scoring & .5 PPR (i.e. my leagues) McFadden: 75.2 pts (393 rushing, 84 receiving, 11 catches, 4 TDs, 1 FUM lost) Shady: 73.9 pts (345 rushing, 49 receiving, 9 catches, 5 TDs) R.Rice: 65.7 (229 rushing, 178 receiving, 14 catches, 3 TDs) add to the fact that McFadden DIDN'T get 2 inside-the-5 opportunities @ Denver (Reece 3-yd pass, Campbell 1-yd run), 2 more inside-the-5 opportunities @ Buffalo (M.Bush 1-yd run, Campbell 1-yd run), and finally losing another 1-yd TD run to Bush vs. the Jets, and you have, IMO, the clear-cut #1 player in FFB Take a wild guess how many inside-the-5 opportunities McCoy has lost to Reid pass-happy ways, Vick's QB rushes, and the dreaded fullback draw (which we saw twice yesterday)? I'll give ya a hint...its more than McFadden's five lost looks. Hell, he lost 3 yesterday when it was 1st-and goal from the 3-yard line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Off the bone groin pull................... Got a link or posting false information? Raiders | Darren McFadden injury update Mon, 26 Sep 2011 05:46:26 -0700 Oakland Raiders RB Darren McFadden (groin) said following the team's Week 3 game that his groin injury is not serious and he expects to be fine. kffl Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markgugs Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Take a wild guess how many inside-the-5 opportunities McCoy has lost to Reid pass-happy ways, Vick's QB rushes, and the dreaded fullback draw (which we saw twice yesterday)? I'll give ya a hint...its more than McFadden's five lost looks. Hell, he lost 3 yesterday when it was 1st-and goal from the 3-yard line. I definitely don't watch many Eagles games, but that fullback nonsense is NOT the norm, I know that. Vick, yes, he's going to steal some, but still not as many as McFadden loses, sorry amigo. Besides, I said it was close. Be happy with the 2nd-best FFB RB Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SouthtownWarriors Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Got a link or posting false information? Raiders | Darren McFadden injury update Mon, 26 Sep 2011 05:46:26 -0700 Oakland Raiders RB Darren McFadden (groin) said following the team's Week 3 game that his groin injury is not serious and he expects to be fine. kffl Just wishful thinking......I picked Frank Gore at 3.3 with McFadden still available Plus I have Michael Bush Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 I definitely don't watch many Eagles games, but that fullback nonsense is NOT the norm, I know that. Vick, yes, he's going to steal some, but still not as many as McFadden loses, sorry amigo. Besides, I said it was close. Be happy with the 2nd-best FFB RB see, now ya made me go look to see if it was indeed more than five: Game 1 vs St. Louis: 1-4-STL4 (6:14) Direct snap to R.Brown. R.Brown up the middle to SL 6 for -2 yards (J.King). Game 2 vs Atlanta: 1-4-ATL4 (11:37) R.Brown right tackle to ATL 5 for -1 yards (R.Edwards). 2-5-ATL5 (11:00) M.Vick pass short right to J.Maclin for 5 yards, TOUCHDOWN. 3-1-ATL3 (6:58) M.Vick pass incomplete short left to B.Celek (C.Lofton). 1-4-ATL4 (2:10) M.Vick left guard to ATL 9 for -5 yards (P.Jerry). FUMBLES (P.Jerry), RECOVERED by ATL-R.Edwards at ATL 12. R.Edwards to PHI 24 for 64 yards (D.Jackson). Game 3 vs New York: 1-2-NYG2 (3:23) O.Schmitt up the middle to NYG 1 for 1 yard (J.Pierre-Paul). 2-1-NYG1 (2:40) M.Vick up the middle to NYG 1 for no gain. PENALTY on NYG-D.Grant, Defensive Offside, 0 yards, enforced at NYG 1 - No Play. 2-1-NYG1 (2:33) M.Vick up the middle to NYG 1 for no gain (C.Canty). 3-1-NYG1 (1:42) O.Schmitt up the middle to NYG 2 for -1 yards (L.Joseph; M.Boley). PHI-M.Vick was injured during the play. His return is Questionable. So I got 9 McCoy lost touches to your 5 for McFadden? sorry amigo, your point is moot about who loses touches inside the 5-yard line. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks21 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 McFadden was one of the most hated on prospects I've ever seen on these boards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markgugs Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 see, now ya made me go look to see if it was indeed more than five So I got 9 McCoy lost touches to your 5 for McFadden? sorry amigo, your point is moot about who loses touches inside the 5-yard line. like I said, I think the FOUR touches he lost on the same set of downs yesterday is a complete aberration. Owen Schmitt? really? guy's a non-factor the rest thus becomes a wash IMO, and moving forward is worse for McFadden because he almost ALWAYS loses the inside-the-5 carries to Bush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecondString Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Take a wild guess how many inside-the-5 opportunities McCoy has lost to Reid pass-happy ways, Vick's QB rushes, and the dreaded fullback draw (which we saw twice yesterday)? I'll give ya a hint...its more than McFadden's five lost looks. Hell, he lost 3 yesterday when it was 1st-and goal from the 3-yard line. You're right. I'm a McCoy owner and I was screaming at the TV. Can't see that happening again, I just know that they are screaming in Philly about that too, the fans, the media, everybody. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 like I said, I think the FOUR touches he lost on the same set of downs yesterday is a complete aberration. Owen Schmitt? really? guy's a non-factor not on that series he wasn't...and more to your point, had McCoy gotten any of the carries from the 1 yard line (2 went to Vick, 1 to Schmitt) and scored, he'd be the top RB right now. But even if we throw out those four downs, its still 5-5 in regard to lost touches (two to Brown, three to Vick rushes/passes). I'm not sure who is the best RB is....and I love McFadden, as I have him on multiple teams. I'm just pointing out that while everyone thinks that Mcfadden loses more touches than most inside the 5-yard line since he's not the short-yardage RB, its not anymore than McCoy....that part of your argument is moot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecondString Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 not on that series he wasn't...and more to your point, had McCoy gotten any of the carries from the 1 yard line (2 went to Vick, 1 to Schmitt) and scored, he'd be the top RB right now. But even if we throw out those four downs, its still 5-5 in regard to lost touches (two to Brown, three to Vick rushes/passes). I'm not sure who is the best RB is....and I love McFadden, as I have him on multiple teams. I'm just pointing out that while everyone thinks that Mcfadden loses more touches than most inside the 5-yard line since he's not the short-yardage RB, its not anymore than McCoy....that part of your argument is moot. Give me either one, I'm a happy owner...can't go wrong. I'd take either over Ray-Ray, that's for sure. But you know, gun to my head, give me LeSean. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfv87 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Swammi... just to be irritating... I realize you point out that DMC only missed out on "5 chances" when he actually missed out on 5 scores, you posted on everyplay that could have gone to Mccoy. Splitting hairs difference but those of us that lost week one when DMC runs 40+yds to the 1... and to let another friggin Rb punch it in so we lose by 4pts becasue friggin Brady goes for 500 yds.... ARRRGGGGHHHHH!!! Breathe 1,2,3... Breathe 4,5,6 Breathe 7,8,9... ok better now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby's Hubby Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 I think he could be the first pick in most fantasy drafts next year, or at least top 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
troublez Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 I'd like to see DMC finish a season of 16 games, but I still think it's unlikely that he wont get injured and we see a hefty load of Michael Bush. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brg88tx Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 mcfadden carried my team to victory yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 I think he could be the first pick in most fantasy drafts next year, or at least top 3 that's if he stays healthy for at least 13 games....and that would be missing 2 or 3 games in the middle by not screwing owners over during FF playoffs.... if he can play all 16 games, I would say he's the 1st overall pick in 2012 fantasy drafts.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 Swammi... just to be irritating... I realize you point out that DMC only missed out on "5 chances" when he actually missed out on 5 scores, you posted on everyplay that could have gone to Mccoy. Splitting hairs difference but those of us that lost week one when DMC runs 40+yds to the 1... and to let another friggin Rb punch it in so we lose by 4pts becasue friggin Brady goes for 500 yds.... ARRRGGGGHHHHH!!! Breathe 1,2,3... Breathe 4,5,6 Breathe 7,8,9... ok better now. I'm with you....and he did it again yesterday when he took a carry 10 yards to the 1 at the end of the 3rd quarter, and Bush then bulled it in. I completely get that he's not the true short-yardage RB. But on the flip side, notice that he got a 2-yard rushing TD yesterday. Seemed, at least yesterday, that Bush was only in when they needed a yard. Now, how many times will that happen the rest of the year? maybe another 4-5? I was only pointing out that inside the 5, McCoy is subject to Andy Reid's odd playcalling and to Vick's athleticism....McFadden seems only limited when the ball is on the one-yard line. When you add up lost chances for each, the difference is negligible, and shouldn't be a factor when determining which is the more productive RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dfv87 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 I'm with you....and he did it again yesterday when he took a carry 10 yards to the 1 at the end of the 3rd quarter, and Bush then bulled it in. I completely get that he's not the true short-yardage RB. But on the flip side, notice that he got a 2-yard rushing TD yesterday. Seemed, at least yesterday, that Bush was only in when they needed a yard. Now, how many times will that happen the rest of the year? maybe another 4-5? I was only pointing out that inside the 5, McCoy is subject to Andy Reid's odd playcalling and to Vick's athleticism....McFadden seems only limited when the ball is on the one-yard line. When you add up lost chances for each, the difference is negligible, and shouldn't be a factor when determining which is the more productive RB. Fair assessment... My therapist said by venting my FF frustrations on-line, it may help me get to a break through... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
byron2112 Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 found this on another board.... In his last 16 games -- a full NFL season -- McFadden has amassed 2,141 total yards and 14 touchdowns, while cracking the yardage century mark 13 times. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted September 26, 2011 Share Posted September 26, 2011 found this on another board.... but isn't that over a 4 year period? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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