DanTheMan_5 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 So I picked Starks up (didn't play him thank God) and watched him perform admirably on my bench for the first 2 weeks. I considered him for week 3 however more than anything I was looking to trade one of my other backs for WR help and figured Starks would be good for at least some fantasy points every week. Suddenly Grant returns to his old form and Starks is left in the dust? I didn't get to see the game. Does anybody who watched the game have any insight as to why this took place? Was there an injury or a sideline fight, or did Grant just look better? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Looked like the Bears defensive scheme was more suited for Grant to do better. But Grant bruised his kidney late in the game, so watch his status. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearBroncos Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 They warned that this would be an RBBC and would run with the hot hand so you take a risk every week to either have a decent amount of points on you bench or you get lousy numbers in your line up. Trust me, I feel your pain. I have both in one league but think I'm going to opt with taking my chances with Wells and Sproles going forward. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby's Hubby Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Alex Green Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
champ48win Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 I really thought that Starks would take this over, but it looks to be a RBBC this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 Grat ran a LOT better than Starks and had a lot of burst through those holes. RBBC all the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knarl Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 From what I remember, Starks kind of danced around the line looking for a hole while Grant did more downhill running, resulting in Starks getting mobbed behind the line of scrimmage several times, and Grant breaking through the line for 8 yards again and again. The Bears defense converged on late developing runs, and had holes for quick runs. Starks should still have value, but who gets the most carries will likely vary game to game depending on who is more successful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 (edited) Alex Green looked good in pre-season what i've read. i assume blocking is a hugh issue esp. since they can't afford Rodgers to take extra hits. Anyone think Green starts getting some carries soon? wondering if he's worth a pick-up. Edited September 27, 2011 by Jackass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 looked good in pre-season what i've read. i assume blocking is a hugh issue esp. since they can't afford Rodgers to take extra hits. Anyone think Green starts getting some carries soon? wondering if he's worth a pick-up. If you're in a dynasty league he's certainly worth putting on your roster, but I seriously doubt he gets much playing time without Grant and/or Starks getting hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chadman Posted September 27, 2011 Share Posted September 27, 2011 This is making me crazy. I have these two and I also have DeAngelo and Stewart. A whole lotta nothing, with nothing to look forward to. On the heels of Jamaal Charles injury. Sorry, had to vent somewhere... good luck to you guys. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 We may not have to worry over this in week 4. Reports are that Grant will likely not play with a bruised kidney. That could put Starks right back in the saddle if he has a good week, but for the short term he should be a decent start this week against Denver. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 looked good in pre-season what i've read. i assume blocking is a hugh issue esp. since they can't afford Rodgers to take extra hits. Anyone think Green starts getting some carries soon? wondering if he's worth a pick-up. Where did you read that he looked good? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark5 Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 As a Starks owner, I have watched this situation.. He looked to be taking charge but as stated earlier, he danced while Grant hit the hole and took off.. yes it is a RBBC but Starks should prevail (wishful thinking probably).. Hopefully just a one game brainfart by Starks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rustyc Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Packers coach Mike McCarthy told reporters Wednesday that he does not expect Ryan Grant (bruised kidney) to play in Week 4.McCarthy said he'll give Grant a "chance" to practice Friday, but for now both the coaching and medical staffs believe he'll be "pressed" to face Denver. McCarthy also noted that there is an NFL protocol for injuries like Grant's, suggesting he'll have to pass medical tests just to practice, let alone play. James Starks may be staring at a breakout game against the Broncos. Sep 28 - 2:39 PMSource: Tom Silverstein on Twitter Starks might be the better play this week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Where did you read that he looked good? don't remember exactly. is this not true? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Yep, Starks looked on Sunday like he was trying out to be the next contestant on Dancing With The Stars. The Packers offensive line doesn't usually open big holes and Grant has a knack for hitting the slightest crack with a full head of steam. Absent injury, I see Grant getting 12 to 15 carries, Starks getting 8 to 10 carries, and Alex Green riding the pine unless it's a blowout. Even in a blowout, I can see them giving the rock to Starks to finish the game out. Green had been on the inactive list so far. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delusions of grandeur Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Anyone else think that it might have been more the matchup vs. the Bears that suited Grant's running style better, more than Starks being ineffective? I mean, Turner had a huge yardage week vs CHI by making a cut, finding the hole and hitting it quickly. From what I've heard, Grant seems to have had success for the same reason... Trying to let the run develop too much could equal the gap closing vs that strong defense. Maybe this does show how Starks could have more success by simply running with authority at times (and not funbling of course), but he did meet the eyeball test to me when I saw him run earlier in the year... Like everyone else, I think this is all just going to continue to make the situation even murkier until/unless Starks is playing out of his mind to keep Grant on the bench. I guess he'll get his chance to try to start that this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cameltosis Posted September 29, 2011 Share Posted September 29, 2011 Anyone else think that it might have been more the matchup vs. the Bears that suited Grant's running style better, more than Starks being ineffective? I mean, Turner had a huge yardage week vs CHI by making a cut, finding the hole and hitting it quickly. From what I've heard, Grant seems to have had success for the same reason... Trying to let the run develop too much could equal the gap closing vs that strong defense. Maybe this does show how Starks could have more success by simply running with authority at times (and not funbling of course), but he did meet the eyeball test to me when I saw him run earlier in the year... Like everyone else, I think this is all just going to continue to make the situation even murkier until/unless Starks is playing out of his mind to keep Grant on the bench. I guess he'll get his chance to try to start that this week. Of course! Chicago's line is big and fast and gets penetration. You have to put your foot in the ground and go. Other lines can be moved a bit and you have the luxury to try and find some room. Grant is a better north/south runner and it showed. Starks either has to learn or only get yards against softer d-lines.. Or, you know, sit the bench. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
51Butkus Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 This decision just got easier Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanTheMan_5 Posted October 1, 2011 Author Share Posted October 1, 2011 This decision just got easier For 1 week anyway. My problem is he's just a bye week filler on my team, and with my luck once my otther RB's go on bye Grant will be back. In week 7 I got Fred Jackson and Ahmad Bradshaw on bye, so keeping my fingers crossed that Grant loses his job by then. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted October 1, 2011 Share Posted October 1, 2011 (edited) GB is making decisions for the best of their team. They don't give a damn about FFers. Starks was more effective in weeks 1 & 2. It appeared when Starks was in against the Bears that they played tighter to the line and made a decided effort to cut off his lanes early, whereas with Grant the Bears played back a little more, Grant had more room, and was defiinitely more effective. It will be interesting to see if anyone else tries to stop GB this way, since it also makes the second level more vulnerable to quick slants and ins. I agree with most of the above. McCarthy will let the D dictate how he uses his RBs and will go with the hot hand. Go ahead, expose yourself with a committment against one guy's style, and I'll pick another way to hurt you - and I've got plenty of options. It's almost Belicheck-like, and thus completely unpredictable for FFers. It's going to take an injury to one in order for FFers to start the other with any confidence. Oh - and start Starks and not Grant tomorrow. Edited October 1, 2011 by Bronco Billy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanTheMan_5 Posted October 2, 2011 Author Share Posted October 2, 2011 Oh - and start Starks and not Grant tomorrow. DUH I'm going to take your advice and start Starks... Who needs Fred Jackson anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted October 24, 2011 Share Posted October 24, 2011 Alex Green In case you were stashing him, He is out for the year due to a knee injury. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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