stduke Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Hey everybody I'm having issues with an immature owner who is trying to make lopsided trades with his son....yeah I know probably shouldnt have family members in the same league. I have vetoed all of these trades but now he is all mad and wants to take his ball and go home. Here is the problem I'm having with this owner now...he is putting in all of the lowest ESPN projected players for his lineup each week. Should I allow this to happen?? Thanks in advance for any thoughts! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby's Hubby Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 (edited) send an email to all the owners, including him. lock him out by changing his password. send him his money back and tell him to bug off. as for his kid, he can play his team or pull out with or without a refund (that is up to the rest of the league). tell them all this " the integrity of the league will be upheld for the benefit of ALL owners. there will be no dumping of players" this should also be written in your by laws. get rid of them , you will never make them happy. you are the commissioner of all owners, not just what he thinks is the right way to get even. Edited September 30, 2011 by Scooby's Hubby Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outshined Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 I have a few questions about the league; How long has the league been in existence? How much is the entry fee? How long have they been in the league together? What were some of the trades? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stduke Posted September 30, 2011 Author Share Posted September 30, 2011 (edited) I have a few questions about the league; How long has the league been in existence? How much is the entry fee? How long have they been in the league together? What were some of the trades? League has been going for 5 years now. The dad has been playing for 3 years. This is his sons first year playing. Entry fee was $35 with all transactions $3 each. Some of the lopsided trades...Steve Smith for Wes Welker was attempted after the one below TOUC traded Ben Tate, Hou RB to Vikings TOUC traded Wes Welker, NE WR to Vikings TOUC traded Tim Hightower, Wsh RB to Vikings TOUC traded Matt Schaub, Hou QB to Vikings MTOU traded Percy Harvin, Min WR to Prowlers MTOU traded Josh Freeman, TB QB to Prowlers MTOU traded LaDainian Tomlinson, NYJ RB to Prowlers MTOU traded Danny Woodhead, NE RB to Prowlers Touch is the dad...Mtou is the son Hope this helps. Edited September 30, 2011 by stduke Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outshined Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 League has been going for 5 years now. The dad has been playing for 3 years. This is his sons first year playing. Entry fee was $35 with all transactions $3 each. Some of the lopsided trades...Steve Smith for Wes Welker was attempted after the one below TOUC traded Ben Tate, Hou RB to Vikings TOUC traded Wes Welker, NE WR to Vikings TOUC traded Tim Hightower, Wsh RB to Vikings TOUC traded Matt Schaub, Hou QB to Vikings MTOU traded Percy Harvin, Min WR to Prowlers MTOU traded Josh Freeman, TB QB to Prowlers MTOU traded LaDainian Tomlinson, NYJ RB to Prowlers MTOU traded Danny Woodhead, NE RB to Prowlers Touch is the dad...Mtou is the son Hope this helps. Yeah - very lopsided. I would not trade Welker for all 4 of the sons players and than Shaub, Hightower and Tate. With Father and Son in the league, there is a good chance they colluded with each other. Something has to be done to keep the integrity of the league intact. I would do what SH stated and inform the rest of the league and he needs to be removed and money refunded. Just make sure to keep your facts straight and keep all owners informed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thews40 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Hey everybody I'm having issues with an immature owner who is trying to make lopsided trades with his son....yeah I know probably shouldnt have family members in the same league. I have vetoed all of these trades but now he is all mad and wants to take his ball and go home. Here is the problem I'm having with this owner now...he is putting in all of the lowest ESPN projected players for his lineup each week. Should I allow this to happen?? Thanks in advance for any thoughts! Yes. He'll come off as a enchilada and whoever goes against him will win every week. Kick him out next year and move on. Just let karma take care of it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 Yes. He'll come off as a enchilada and whoever goes against him will win every week. Kick him out next year and move on. Just let karma take care of it. I've seen karma turn a blind eye to this sort of thing... nip it in the bud now....this is plain silly.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thews40 Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 I've seen karma turn a blind eye to this sort of thing... nip it in the bud now....this is plain silly.. How? Manage the team for him? What about the free wins given out already? What if the commish manages the team and it somehow makes the playoffs? For those that have never played in a league that awards the highest payout to total points, this is another reason why the points format is better IMO. The objective is to score points, and while head-to-head is fun, you can still have it, but it doesn't pay as much . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MnLefty Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 (edited) How? Manage the team for him? What about the free wins given out already? What if the commish manages the team and it somehow makes the playoffs? For those that have never played in a league that awards the highest payout to total points, this is another reason why the points format is better IMO. The objective is to score points, and while head-to-head is fun, you can still have it, but it doesn't pay as much . I would lay it out to the dad and the league and give the dad one more chance to play it straight. If he chooses not to, then you manage the team to the highest ESPN projected totals so there is no debate about who should be started. I don't think there's anything you can do about the past matchups... not fair to turn back the clock. Should the commish managed team go to the playoffs and cash, spread the winnings equally to the league or to the other payouts in proportion of your standard $ breakdown. Edited September 30, 2011 by MnLefty Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Patriots Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 I think you let him make as many trades as he wants, but just veto all of them. Don't give him his money back and at the end of the year kick him and his dad out of the league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABearWithFurniture Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 If it's the son's 1st year playing maybe he just doesn't know and his dad is taking advantage of him...if his starting lineups are his top players I don't see why you'd kick him out. Sounds like the dad is the problem. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprofessor Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 How? Manage the team for him? What about the free wins given out already? What if the commish manages the team and it somehow makes the playoffs? For those that have never played in a league that awards the highest payout to total points, this is another reason why the points format is better IMO. The objective is to score points, and while head-to-head is fun, you can still have it, but it doesn't pay as much . Agree on the Total Points. Always have, always will. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sinister Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 How old is the son? I definitely would NOT give him a refund. If this happened in the league im commish for, Id change his password, and get someone else from the other leagues i play in to manage that team. Of course id let the other owners know what i was doing and why. Id call it the enchilada rule. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 I publicly mock the father for the examples he is setting for his son and the lessons he's teaching him - cheat when you can, and cry and throw your toys when you can't. We're talking about what, a 30+ year old man's behavior here? Lock his team out and get a buddy to run it for him - there are probably a few dozen long-time huddlers that would help you out - with the option of disqualifying the team from the playoffs. Run that last part by the league first and be clear to the new owner if that's what you're doing. Are you even sure it's the son that's involved? Could this be the dude using the facade of his son to do this in the first place. If you are sure the son is legit I would let the son know that you'll give him the benefit of the doubt and if he goes forward in a mature and competitive way he's welcome to stay in the league. Also, however, make it clear that BOTH sides of a cheating scenario are equally to blame - by accepting the trade he's just as culpable as the one offering it. He's in his first year so may not have the perspective needed so cutting him a break, while watching closely going forward, is appropriate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted September 30, 2011 Share Posted September 30, 2011 I would lay it out to the dad and the league and give the dad one more chance to play it straight. If he chooses not to, then you manage the team to the highest ESPN projected totals so there is no debate about who should be started. I don't think there's anything you can do about the past matchups... not fair to turn back the clock. Should the commish managed team go to the playoffs and cash, spread the winnings equally to the league or to the other payouts in proportion of your standard $ breakdown. I would do something along these lines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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