Sunday Couch Potatoe Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 I currently have the #4 waiver spot in our 12 team league, you guys think hes worth adding? Or should I keep holding out for better options? Have you read this thread? I would say it would be a resounding yes to your question..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papajohn Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 I put those things together and added him before all the hype and asked questions later. Kind feel like my initial thread brought his name to a lot of people's attention while at the same time trying to learn a bit more about him myself. So ya, I don't think my lack of knowledge of him negates the hunch I had. I agree. I saw this thread today and it was an interesting read. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theeohiostate Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 big thanks to this thread as well , added him as a waiver pick up before sundays games in 2 leagues, so at least he's on my roster and i got him free instead of having to use any blind bidding bucks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bostonsoxandy Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 Damn...never opened this thread even though I saw it before Sunday-kicking myself now. Just assumed it was too far of a long shot to warrant looking at. Stupid me..... But he is still available. I play in blind-bidding league with $100 per team. 13 team league, how much do you think he is worth out of a $100 budget ( I have $70 left right now) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbpackersfan Posted October 10, 2011 Share Posted October 10, 2011 I just have a hard time buying into the hype so quickly. Ive seen the hype on Helu, Torain, Ridley and several others and have yet to see any pan out. This guy will be playing from behind 95% of the time and is on a terrible offense with 2 other rb options. (Sorry for the negativity) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Money Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Does anyone else see this as a similar situation to what Blount had last year in Tampa Bay? A struggling run game gives a chance to a guy deep on the depth chart and he produces. I'm not saying they're exactly the same, but similar circumstances. I can see this guy definately deserving more carries after his preformance on Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ernie McCracken Posted October 11, 2011 Share Posted October 11, 2011 Does anyone else see this as a similar situation to what Blount had last year in Tampa Bay? A struggling run game gives a chance to a guy deep on the depth chart and he produces. I'm not saying they're exactly the same, but similar circumstances. I can see this guy definately deserving more carries after his preformance on Sunday. Like Tampa last year KC is a team struggling to find an identity. Haley is a run first coach and the Chiefs have been a run first team. Without the threat of Charles they needed to get back to letting the interior lineman gash the middle and open lanes between the tackles instead of setting the edge for Charles. McCluster is not a between the tackles runner and T.Jones is 33 with a ton of mileage(he's done) and no juice(he's done). Haley knows they need to run to set up the pass as Cassell is limited in the throws he can make but can be a solid game manager. The Chiefs still have a middle of the road O-line but played much better than expected last year and some of the names on the schedule aren't as scary against the run as many expected. From what I saw of Battle over the last couple of weeks he seems slow to get to top end speed but he has enough power to run through tackles, easily breaks arm tackles and falls forward for extra yardage. If he's hungry (and you've got to think he is) he could make a splash. Every season 1 or 2 show up late who can be difference makers at the RB spot. He's a guy I was more than willing to take a shot based on measurables 6'2'' 240lb. sub 4.5 /40 and he helped get me a win in my 14 teamer. Haley has no alllegiance to McCluster, he was Weiss's project and Thomas Jones is so out of gas it's not even funny and it's hard to argue with 21 touches for 140 yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crazysight Posted October 12, 2011 Share Posted October 12, 2011 He's looking like a good guy to have for spot matchups. I tried to acquire him prior to Sunday's game from the guy whose had him for a few weeks now in my league but no dice. As stated previously KC is a run first team, though he will share the load some with at least McCluster getting some carries. I wouldn't expect the kind of results week to week that he produced against the lowly colts defense, but against weaker teams and defenses he's probably a good bet for points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Money Posted October 20, 2011 Share Posted October 20, 2011 KC homers, has Battle been getting a majority of the carries in practice since his big game or has he been splitting reps with Jones and McCluster? I tried looking for some info but couldn't find anything. He looks like a good bye week fill in this week. I'm just wondering if Haley is going to be giving him a majority of the carries. Any insight would be much appreciated. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Perhaps this is just wishful thinking because I picked him up in two leagues, but I just don't see how this works out any other way than him being a borderline bell-cow going forward. Rewind: 1) They put him in late in a game that they were trying to ice and he got them some needed 1st downs 2) They heap praise upon him for doing that and say they want to give him more reps 3) They do so and he rewards them with 100+ yards on less than 20 carries 4) They have a bye week to dial him in 5) The other options are a guy who is too small and a guy who is too old. Battle, meanwhile is both big and young. How does this not add up to 20 touches a game going forward? What else does the kid have to show them? It's not like he's trying to unseat a proven stud or something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks21 Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Perhaps this is just wishful thinking because I picked him up in two leagues, but I just don't see how this works out any other way than him being a borderline bell-cow going forward. Rewind: 1) They put him in late in a game that they were trying to ice and he got them some needed 1st downs 2) They heap praise upon him for doing that and say they want to give him more reps 3) They do so and he rewards them with 100+ yards on less than 20 carries 4) They have a bye week to dial him in 5) The other options are a guy who is too small and a guy who is too old. Battle, meanwhile is both big and young. How does this not add up to 20 touches a game going forward? What else does the kid have to show them? It's not like he's trying to unseat a proven stud or something. All true, but at this point last year Thomas Jones was keeping Jamaal Charles on the sidelines. I wouldn't bet big money against him doing the same with Jackie Battle. I was all over Battle in my two leagues as well, and the odds have to be in favor of him getting a healthy number of carries, but this is Todd Haley, and he has/had a thing for Thomas Jones, so I'm gonna hold my breath for a few weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archiebonker Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I missed out on him and my rival took him. So I hope he sucks. haha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delicious_bass Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 (edited) Perhaps this is just wishful thinking because I picked him up in two leagues, but I just don't see how this works out any other way than him being a borderline bell-cow going forward. Rewind: 1) They put him in late in a game that they were trying to ice and he got them some needed 1st downs 2) They heap praise upon him for doing that and say they want to give him more reps 3) They do so and he rewards them with 100+ yards on less than 20 carries 4) They have a bye week to dial him in 5) The other options are a guy who is too small and a guy who is too old. Battle, meanwhile is both big and young. How does this not add up to 20 touches a game going forward? What else does the kid have to show them? It's not like he's trying to unseat a proven stud or something. Not that young. Just sayin... Jackie BattleRB | # 26 | Kansas City Eligibility: RB Ht/Wt: 6-2/238 | Age: 28 (10/01/1983) | Exp: 4 Career stats: Rushing Year Team G Att Att/G Yds Avg Yds/G TD Lng 1st 1st% 20+ 40+ FUM 2011 Kansas City Chiefs 5 29 5.8 156 5.4 31.2 0 24 8 27.6 1 0 0 2010 Kansas City Chiefs 16 20 1.2 50 2.5 3.1 1 7 7 35.0 0 0 0 2009 Kansas City Chiefs 5 7 1.4 21 3.0 4.2 0 12 3 42.9 0 0 0 2008 Kansas City Chiefs 9 -- 0.0 -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- -- 2007 Kansas City Chiefs 3 14 4.7 47 3.4 15.7 1 6 3 21.4 0 0 0 TOTAL 38 70 1.8 274 3.9 7.2 2 24 21 30.0 1 0 0 Undrafted guy with 31 carries over a three year period? Maybe he's about to blow up big, but it seems to me we may have seen/heard a little more about him by now if he is a legit talent? Chefs still figure to be losing in most games this year, no? Edited October 21, 2011 by Delicious_bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooknladder Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Not that young. Just sayin... Career stats: Undrafted guy with 31 carries over a three year period? Maybe he's about to blow up big, but it seems to me we may have seen/heard a little more about him by now if he is a legit talent? Chefs still figure to be losing in most games this year, no? agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 Not that young. Just sayin... Career stats: Undrafted guy with 31 carries over a three year period? Maybe he's about to blow up big, but it seems to me we may have seen/heard a little more about him by now if he is a legit talent? Chefs still figure to be losing in most games this year, no? Well, like Fred Jackson, not much wear on the tires, so he's a young 28 the way Jackson is a young 30 something. I'm not saying that he's the next great thing, but rather that I can't see much reason why the Chiefs don't give him the lion's share of the carries. What he does with them, is anyone's guess. But he's been the most effective back of the three they have back there right now. Why would they bother getting him more in the mix to begin with if they weren't planning on rewarding what he's done with more carries? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTed46 Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 The Chiefs O-line isn't terrible and they don't have a RB. They will give this guy a shot and see what happens. The experimentc come to end 2 minutes into the game or you can have a decent spot play fantasy starter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
P3R3 Posted October 21, 2011 Share Posted October 21, 2011 I am starting him at RB2 this week so here's to a breakout performance :cheers: I like the way this guy runs though, he runs HARD. That is even more important in the league than speed at the RB position. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gdawg Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 The Chiefs O-line isn't terrible and they don't have a RB. They will give this guy a shot and see what happens. The experimentc come to end 2 minutes into the game or you can have a decent spot play fantasy starter. The Chiefs have stepped up their passing game a bit and he faces a team that has been pretty weak against the run. In a bye week, he is worth a roll of the dice IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FinZone Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 KC still has the passing game somewhat effective...espcially now that Cassel is looking Breaston's way too. As one said earlier...the O-line isn't bad at all. I think he def gets the starting load...and the raiders with QB issues, I see a good game where KC can potentially catch Oakland off guard and make the big plays Im starting him over Torain which still has me but I like the Chiefs in this match-up and Battle to get a good share of snaps...Jones is running on fumes, gotta think he's done after this season Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 I'm rolling with Jackie in two leagues ... of course when you see my options you'll see why: League 1: Battle, Greene, Ingram, McGahee, Starks League 2: Addai, Battle, Bensen, Gore, Hillis Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTed46 Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 I'm rolling with Jackie in two leagues ... of course when you see my options you'll see why: League 1: Battle, Greene, Ingram, McGahee, Starks League 2: Addai, Battle, Bensen, Gore, Hillis I would hope Battle can do what McGahee has done this season. Who are you rolling with Battle and Ingram/McGahee? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 I would hope Battle can do what McGahee has done this season. Who are you rolling with Battle and Ingram/McGahee? Battle + McGahee Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Ernie McCracken Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 (edited) Not that young. Just sayin... Career stats: Undrafted guy with 31 carries over a three year period? Maybe he's about to blow up big, but it seems to me we may have seen/heard a little more about him by now if he is a legit talent? Chefs still figure to be losing in most games this year, no? Yeah, I guess the last time an undrafted RB made a splash was a long time ago. You'd have to go back a full year in the distant past to Blount who had a pretty solid 2nd half of the season. The RB position in the NFL is about talent undoubtedly, but talent without opportunity can go unseen. Based on a 21 touch 140 yd performance, I think he's worth a shot and apparently so does his OC http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/21/32220...s#ixzz1bWTylFdL Edited October 22, 2011 by Big Ernie McCracken Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorcher Posted October 22, 2011 Share Posted October 22, 2011 (edited) Yeah, I guess the last time an undrafted RB made a splash was a long time ago. You'd have to go back a full year in the distant past to Blount who had a pretty solid 2nd half of the season. The RB position in the NFL is about talent undoubtedly, but talent without opportunity can go unseen. Based on a 21 touch 140 yd performance, I think he's worth a shot and apparently so does his OC http://www.kansascity.com/2011/10/21/32220...s#ixzz1bWTylFdL One thing in his favor is that he is not Clinton Portis. Also Blount is a good example, he was my rb2 and got me in the playoffs after a long RB drought and several losses. Edited October 22, 2011 by Scorcher Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KillinTime Posted October 23, 2011 Share Posted October 23, 2011 I am a little concerned with the concussion prospect. He has had two weeks to get better but he is going to be susceptible to another in the short term. Concussion info Add that and the fact that Haley may rotate rb in at a whim and I decided to roll with Vincent Jackson for my flex over Battle this week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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