Bronco Billy Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I responded to a league thread started by gil, who has a very fine team but had a really bad week last week, with this: This is getting to be one of the weirdest FF years I can remember. I don't ever remember taking so many 0s in scoring, and I look around and see others doing the same. It's the same way in my other 2 leagues also. Starters going down, uncertainty at so many positions, guys who should by all rights be rising yet are doing zilch. Got to be the labor dispute consequences washing through the entire league. Anyone else thinking that this year is really peculiar and difficult to read? If so, do you expect it to remain this way for the rest of the season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Worst season ever. To the point where I don't know if I'm coming back next year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearBroncos Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I'm having a horrid year in 2 leagues, a bad year in 3 other leagues and 1 good year in my IDP league. In my keeper league, I went from Super bowl champ and last place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WashingtonD Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 It permeates all the way from the experts that make a living projecting and talking about fantasy sports down to the folks like us who are playing. This year the percentage of agreement of experts on the #1 projected player in any category is generally in the 20-25% range week by week, position by position. For the same set of experts, over the same time frame last season that percentage was close to 40%. If you go down to consensus on players in top 10 the numbers are even more disparate. WD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ursa Majoris Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Sucks donkey balls Nuff said Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Savage Beatings Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Yeah I pretty much HATE this season. I'm not sure if I'm willing to blame it on the lockout though. Seems like a tough thing to quantify there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Dick Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 This year is more like 98% luck and 2% luck. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearBroncos Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Granted, I'm rock solid for draft picks in the 2012 rookie draft Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I'm gonna buck the trend and, while my leaguemates in my main two leagues will disagree, I am having a pretty solid year in both. 6-1 in one league, 7-0 in another (though playing with some real knuckleheads), and 4-3 in my BotH league. Common threads in my main locals are Rodgers, Graham and Forte. But I will agree much of it is luck...if your 1st or 2nd round picks end up being busts, and your opponents pan out....you are fighting a long uphill battle. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lkirc Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 It seems like we say this every year. It does seem like a lot of players are taking zeroes. Peyton getting hurt has affected all Colts players, with Dallas Clark and Wayne taking a plunge. Lots of very young starting qBs have affected offensive consistency. Every year is different. I am enjoying this one as all my FF teams and my Lions are doing well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 Stupid deep at TE. I think the lockout means we've only been out of the preseason barely a month, and that seems to be shown in the reduction in scores the last two weeks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stethant Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I'm glad to hear that my misery has company. I would say the variance for specific players is up, as is the team variance on total offensive (or defensive) performance. The variance between players is also up - who can predict which RB or WR is going to go off for certain teams? Just look at Foster this year (don't own him) as a great example. It seems like much more of a random number generator this year with alot more parity. Every team in my main league is within 2 of the lead and usually by this time there are clear winner and loser teams. I would guess, getting back to the OP's question, that this is going to continue. You would like to think the cream of the talent would rise to the top, but I think we're more likely to see a solidification of the top 5 players at each position (the rich get richer) and a continual churning of everyone below that. There are way less stars to bank on this year. The first few weeks there were ridiculously high scores in my main 12-team standard. It looks like someone flipped a switch 2 weeks ago and now the scores have been at historic lows. Maybe it's the more concentrated bye weeks? Not sure. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lawofmurphy Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 (edited) Honestly, I feel like every year we can sit here and talk about how strange things are. The fact is that the NFL generates a ton of turnover from season to season. Looking at the top players, I'm not really surprised by a ton. Brady, Rodgers, and Brees are in the top 5. Yes, Newton is a shocker...but Stafford being up there isn't, I don't think. He's always had the skill/weapons around him. Peterson, Rice, McCoy, Foster, and Turner are in the top 10. Gore and MJD are right there. Forte has been excellent. Darren Sproles is a surprise, but those things tend to happen. Calvin Johnson, Welker, Jennings and Nicks are doing well. WR is a historically volatile position, so I'm not shocked to see some odd names up there like Pierre Garcon or Jordy Nelson. Remember last year? A 2nd year undrafted free agent was the top back. Brandon Lloyd was the top WR. Mike Vick was a backup in week 1 and went on to be just about the most dominating player of the year. I think when we look back at past seasons, there's a desire to normalize what has happened. At the time it's happening, it's surprising, but then you look back and say "yeah, well, Arian Foster is awesome, so it's not surprising that he finished with 2,200 yards." But as it's happening, you are amazed that Fred Jackson is in the top 3. Anyway, maybe there's evidence that this season HAS been especially chaotic, but I think it's just like any other year. Edited October 25, 2011 by lawofmurphy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt770 Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 In one league I'm third in total points, but my record is 3-4. Three teams are 4-3 with fewer points than me. It really chaps my ass when that happens, just getting burned repeatedly with bad matchups week after week. Pretty crappy NFL season so far too, one of the worst I can remember. Probably because I'm an NFC east guy, but really, where is the surprise team that is going to make a SB run? In the NFC it's the Saints & Packers and everyone else is a big step below. The AFC thus far is a complete snoozefest too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB49ers Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 its sad when I see guy like Tebow outscoring true pocket passing QB like Stafford, even Newton out no where is producing on the lvl of an Aaron Rodgers etc., i'm just bitter i own neither lol. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAYER Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I suck in FF, 2 championships in 15 years and I'm having good seasons. 5-2 divsion leader in one and 7-4 in IDP dynasty, although this is a schedule thing, likely to finish 8-8. Still alive in my Survivor league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efi4eye Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I'm 5-2 in 3 out of my 4 leagues so far, so no strongly negative feelings. Some really crazy drop offs this year. Chris Johnson? Wow..... I almost drafted him in a dynasty start up league before this year, so glad I held off and took Foster instead. Dallas Clark? Who knew he would be blocking and completely worthless in fantasy without Manning? I took him in one league in the 3rd round this year so I could have a rock-solid TE, won't do that again. Mike Williams? Looking like a bust so far this year. Jamaal Charles? No way you could predict injuries like that. Mendenhall? Roddy White? No one thought Cam Newton would do anything at the NFL level. I drafted him at the end of the first round in a rookie-only draft, after guys like Roy Helu and Jon Baldwin. AJ Green and Julio Jones have been as good as advertised, especially Green. Ingram and Daniel Thomas haven't been as good as we hoped So.. I guess it's a pretty typical year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outshined Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I am not having a good year at all. Four leagues with a combined record of 8-20. I don't know how to explain why other than my players just are not scoring consistently. In one league, I had a chance to move into 1st place this week as I was way ahead. Than Brees throws 5 td's. I think it might be some bad luck too. I have gone against Rodgers, Brees and Brady quite a bit... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 I responded to a league thread started by gil, who has a very fine team but had a really bad week last week, with this: This is getting to be one of the weirdest FF years I can remember. I don't ever remember taking so many 0s in scoring, and I look around and see others doing the same. It's the same way in my other 2 leagues also. Starters going down, uncertainty at so many positions, guys who should by all rights be rising yet are doing zilch. Got to be the labor dispute consequences washing through the entire league. Anyone else thinking that this year is really peculiar and difficult to read? If so, do you expect it to remain this way for the rest of the season? First let me say that Gil does indeed have one hel1 of a team (you too) and if given the chance to play another team over his I would probably pick the other team 100% of the time. Now with that all said, I don't think it has as much to do with the labor dispute. Up until a couple of weeks ago scoring and passing was way up...that could have something to do with the dispute but I don't think much. The past two weeks scoring has been down and yeah an argument could be that defenses are finally catching up to the offenses...What I think the bigger issues is, is that talent is deep and teams aren't afraid to go to "role" players. Teams have also at times seemed to taken the "not gonna let this guy beat us mentality" but that has been around for a very long time. Overall I have been pretty happy with my season, and I have had a few tough, tough losses. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted October 25, 2011 Author Share Posted October 25, 2011 Up until a couple of weeks ago scoring and passing was way up...that could have something to do with the dispute but I don't think much. The past two weeks scoring has been down and yeah an argument could be that defenses are finally catching up to the offenses...What I think the bigger issues is, is that talent is deep and teams aren't afraid to go to "role" players. Teams have also at times seemed to taken the "not gonna let this guy beat us mentality" but that has been around for a very long time. I think you are onto something. First the scoring - didn't we expect scoring to be down due to the poorer field position with all the touchbacks from the kickoff rule change taking effect? I agree that it takes Ds some time to catch up to Os - the D reactive play vs O shceduled play thing going on. That the Ds were behind going into the regular season makes sense with less time to prepare due to the lockout. Now if Ds have caught up, the touchbacks may be taking full effect, meaning the rest of the year could be lower scoring like this. I also agree that teams are really spreading the ball around and are unafraid to try younger guys in game situations. That may be due to injuries to regulars as well, which could possibly be attributed in some part to the lessened time frame of the lock out. It seems like there are more injuries this year, but maybe it's my misperception. Thoughts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riffraff Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 This is my first year playing, so I'm not really sure what to expect. But I can tell you this: I learn something new every year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 My problem in non idp redrafts is and always will be the same thing. i wait too long to see if a guy is a flash in the pan and I take a comfort pick with a former stud Example. With the 3 pick over all a young whipper snapper doing his research would possibly grab an Arian Foster. For me , I want to see Foster do it a few more years . So I nuzzle myself in the bussom of Chris Johnson while the Foster owner dances on my grave. My main local I left the draft with this team Romo CJ (see above) Jones Drew (see above) Wayne (see above) Finley Mike Williams Gostkowski Philly D Left there feeling great and with an incredibly lucky win last night I am 3-4 Have a great dynasty team in a BOth league that I won last year and I am currently 5-2. F U Dumerville 3-4 in a rebuild dynasty both league. made some radical moves and kept some great core talent I was left with. This quickly became my most favorite league. A team with a punchers chance but probably too many holes yet to truly make noise this year but future could be bright middle of the road in another both dynasty. lost the superbowl there last year and this year have been average I still enjoy it but I dont bury myself in it with research as much as I used to and in some cases it shows when I have a team littered with has beens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 This is my first year playing F'n newbie. Member #87! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted October 25, 2011 Share Posted October 25, 2011 3-4 in a rebuild dynasty both league. made some radical moves and kept some great core talent I was left with. This quickly became my most favorite league. A team with a punchers chance but probably too many holes yet to truly make noise this year but future could be bright If this is the team that I think it is, it is no slouch. Your record really should be much better. Matt Ryan, CJ, McFadden, Dez, VJax, Pettigrew, Tuck (inj) Peppers, Lofton, D'Qwell & Foster is one hel1 of a core of players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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