devildog0311 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Not saying the saints had a great back field but they all seemed to be capapble. Why would you pick up one of the better backs out of the draft and then under use him? Or am I seeing this wrong? I don't know crap about coaching but it seems like a waist. I think they could have used their pick at a bigger deficiancy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matt770 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 I don't know crap about coaching but it seems like a waist. I don't see what Rex Ryan has to do with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Not saying the saints had a great back field but they all seemed to be capapble. Why would you pick up one of the better backs out of the draft and then under use him? Or am I seeing this wrong? I don't know crap about coaching but it seems like a waist. I think they could have used their pick at a bigger deficiancy. grooming (letting him learn the playbook and system). less pressure (doesn't have to produce at this moment). shopping thomas (show the other nfl teams he is worth something). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delicious_bass Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 (edited) Not saying the saints had a great back field but they all seemed to be capapble. Why would you pick up one of the better backs out of the draft and then under use him? Or am I seeing this wrong? I don't know crap about coaching but it seems like a waist. I think they could have used their pick at a bigger deficiancy. Perhaps the Saints were thinking more long term than the first 8 weeks of the 2011 season? grooming (letting him learn the playbook and system). less pressure (doesn't have to produce at this moment). shopping thomas (show the other nfl teams he is worth something). this Edited October 28, 2011 by Delicious_bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTed46 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Not saying the saints had a great back field but they all seemed to be capapble. Why would you pick up one of the better backs out of the draft and then under use him? Or am I seeing this wrong? I don't know crap about coaching but it seems like a waist. I think they could have used their pick at a bigger deficiancy. They had a RB deficiancy when they went into the draft. Sproles exceeded everyone's expectations. PT's ankle looked like ground beef. IIRC Ivory was hurt...even if he wasn't he is not the answer. Ingram was/is projected to be an amazing RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delusions of grandeur Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 (edited) They had a RB deficiancy when they went into the draft. Sproles exceeded everyone's expectations. PT's ankle looked like ground beef. IIRC Ivory was hurt...even if he wasn't he is not the answer. Ingram was/is projected to be an amazing RB. This. Do you remember the Saints running game, or should I say infirmary ward last year? It was basically hedging their bets that PT wouldn't be able to handle a full load (if return to full speed from the injury) and that Sproles might not be able to handle more than a Reggie Bush sized workload... Both of them have been better than you could have hoped, and if they hadn't, Ingram is the type of back who can handle a large workload. Also I believe it was mentioned in the other Ingram thread that he's the lone back who has had the vast majority of snaps be running plays. We've been hearing it since week 1 that defenses seem to be keying in on him when he's on the field, rather than respecting the pass far more like with the other backs in... If it's short-yardage and Ingram is out there, who do you think the ball is going to? I love Ingram's talent and how hard he runs, so you gotta believe that at some point he's going to prove his worth for them, but as long as the Saints have 2 other solid healthy backs that defenses aren't keying in on so much, then it's a good problem to have and they aren't going to stress whether they overwork their first round pick just because he was a first round pick... In short, it's not a waste if you've made moves to turn what was a weaknesses last year into a strength with great depth this year. (ETA: Oh and of course Peyton doesn't give a crap about our FF teams) Edited October 28, 2011 by delusions of granduer Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delusions of grandeur Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Now for my own speculation, I also think that the move up to take Ingram might have had something to do with the Falcons moving up to take Julio Jones... Knowing that the Falcons were making moves to shore up their lack of explosive plays and add a new dimension, they probably did this so they could be 2-dimensional themselves and take pressure off of Brees and the passing game (who had started turning the ball over way too much as teams stayed up in his face). Perhaps it also had to do with the fact that the Panthers had also drafted a guy who they might want to keep off the field twice a year. Remember too that it wasn't their first round pick that they used on Ingram. They moved up to get him after they seemingly got a guy who addressed a bigger weakness.... So with all that said, do you still feel like it was a waste to ensure your team is 2-dimensional? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAYER Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 As a Saint fan, love the pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slugs3511 Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 (edited) Packers won a Superbowl last year, and they have N.O. running game......get it? LOL! Edited October 28, 2011 by Slugs3511 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Answered fairly well. They had a lot of back but none they could really count on enough for various reasons. Their hope is he will become the workhorse guy. Too soon to tell. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Because coaches don't coach fantasy teams. A rookie RB isn't going to come in and play a 16 game NFL schedule to full load. Even if he was the only one they had worth a crap Payton would still pace him. As is they have multiple guys that are all multi-dimensional so they can rotate them, keep them fresh, and not give away the play with the alignment. Come January when they all have plenty of gas in the tank this will all be very clear. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JUMbotron Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Not saying the saints had a great back field but they all seemed to be capapble. Why would you pick up one of the better backs out of the draft and then under use him? Or am I seeing this wrong? I don't know crap about coaching but it seems like a waist. I think they could have used their pick at a bigger deficiancy. Yep I thought that same thing the second Goodell called Ingram's name. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted October 28, 2011 Share Posted October 28, 2011 Because coaches don't coach fantasy teams. A rookie RB isn't going to come in and play a 16 game NFL schedule to full load. Even if he was the only one they had worth a crap Payton would still pace him. As is they have multiple guys that are all multi-dimensional so they can rotate them, keep them fresh, and not give away the play with the alignment. Come January when they all have plenty of gas in the tank this will all be very clear. Yep.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Way too much talent to let drop further. It's the same reason why GB drafted Rodgers when they did and then Cobb in the 2nd round this year. Hardly needs given what they had of the roster at the time but the talent was too great to bypass. It's how great teams stay great while the rest of the league keeps chasing them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunning Runt Posted October 29, 2011 Share Posted October 29, 2011 Way too much talent to let drop further. It's the same reason why GB drafted Rodgers when they did and then Cobb in the 2nd round this year. Hardly needs given what they had of the roster at the time but the talent was too great to bypass. It's how great teams stay great while the rest of the league keeps chasing them. Ya, pretty much agree with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mitpdub Posted October 30, 2011 Share Posted October 30, 2011 It's hard to say he's a bust just yet being in his first year and getting dinged up. A few years ago people were saying DMC was a bad pick for the Raiders and he's finally turning out to be the player they hoped 2 years later. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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