BeeR Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 I think USC beats OU and further muddies the picture - unless Bama and LSU win out in which case it's easy. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted November 20, 2011 Author Share Posted November 20, 2011 Well sure enough tho OU came way back, great game. Now the other OU (Okla) was going to go for 2 down 38-37 dumb move - lucky for them in a wawy IMO they were called offsides and just tied it. The drama! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Well sure enough tho OU came way back, great game. Now the other OU (Okla) was going to go for 2 down 38-37 dumb move - lucky for them in a wawy IMO they were called offsides and just tied it. The drama! Then Baylor scores a TD with :08 left Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajh2 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Epic Night of Upsets! BCS # 2,4,5,and 7 fall! SEC - #1, #2, and #3 with #3 Arkansas @ #1 LSU on Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted November 20, 2011 Author Share Posted November 20, 2011 (edited) I know, what a day. No way Ark is beating LSU. Maybe makes it interesting. Maybe. It's up to Bama now. Edited November 20, 2011 by BeeR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ajh2 Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 We will see, Arkansas has gone into Baton Rouge and beaten LSU (@ #1), so it is very possible. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
untateve Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Some may say I'm a bit biased but I think an all SEC BCS NC game would be wonderful. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAYER Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 Some may say I'm a bit biased but I think an all SEC BCS NC game would be wonderful. I tend to have to agree with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonedaddies Posted November 20, 2011 Share Posted November 20, 2011 This thing is far from over, but I guess you can make a few assumptions of how this should/could play out. The crazy thing is the losses for many of the one/two loss teams is a; we beat you, but they beat us and you beat them and the SEC could end up the same way. BIG 12 • OU- has to be out with their second loss of the year and the fact that they got beat by TTU, but a win over OSU will put them in the Big 12 CG and they should win. • OSU- Seems to be loved by the computers and yesterday’s upsets keep them in the hunt, a loss in the Battle for Bedlam and they are out of the picture completely, a win and some help could get them back in the picture…..somehow. • KSU- Can’t win the Big 12…can’t play for the title PAC 12 • Stanford- #5 in the BSC, but an OU win over OSU and they can’t play for the Pac 12 title, were manhandled by a 2 loss OU team..I can’t see how they get in. • OU- Should win the Pac 12, but 2 losses should not get them in over 2 of the 3, LSU (even with a loss) Bama and Ark. ACC • Va Tech- You have to think they have a shot here with some help, only loss (23-3) to a good Clemson team..maybe UVA will beat them and end their chances. BIG 10 • Best are 2 loss teams, can’t see anyone getting a nod here SEC • LSU- Control their destiny, but Ark always gives them fits, a win and they get one half of the NCG even if they lose to UGA in the SEC CG. • Ark- I think they can reach the NCG if they beat #1 LSU and #13 UGA and win the SEC. The big question here is will a win over LSU get them the points to jump Bama and win the three way tiebreaker to play for the SEC title? • Bama- They have to sit and wait, they beat in-state rival AU and they either play for the SEC title or sit home and watch and hope they get a rematch with LSU/Ark or play Va Tech or OSU for the NCG. So the way I see it, there are only 5 teams that have a shot and the NCG will be any combo of these teams: LSU / BAMA / ARK / Va TECH / OSU Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerx Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 (edited) Bama doesn't deserve to play in the national championship game if they don't even make it to their own conference championship game. ETA: It just isn't right if Bama played in the NC game against LSU and won. Basically, then you would have had a team that lost at home to LSU, didn't have to play an extra game (which, oh BTW, is their own conference championship game), and then gets to claim that they are the best team in the country?? Even though I may think Bama is the 2nd best team in the country, in my mind they lost the right to take it from LSU because of those factors. Personally I believe it should be between the winner of the Okla. and OSU game. ETA2: Hell, give Boise St. a shot, no one else seems up to the task and it would finally shut up all those whiners! Edited November 21, 2011 by millerx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprofessor Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 (edited) Bama doesn't deserve to play in the national championship game if they don't even make it to their own conference championship game. ETA: It just isn't right if Bama played in the NC game against LSU and won. Basically, then you would have had a team that lost at home to LSU, didn't have to play an extra game (which, oh BTW, is their own conference championship game), and then gets to claim that they are the best team in the country?? Even though I may think Bama is the 2nd best team in the country, in my mind they lost the right to take it from LSU because of those factors. Personally I believe it should be between the winner of the Okla. and OSU game. Yer outa your mind! You think that the teams that lost to Texas Tech, Baylor and Iowa State are more deserving than Alabama? How bout' the SEC East Champion, Georgia Bulldogs?? ....... Oh that's right they lost at home to the Boise State Bronco's. Edited November 21, 2011 by theprofessor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 If I may ask a question to the "the regular season is the play-off" camp? Say LSU beats ARK and goes to the SEC title game. Win or lose, you've got to figure they're in the BCS title game. Who jumps them? So, explain how all the games leading up to the BCS are a play-off when a team can lose their last game prior to the championship and still go? In your deluded little world, aren't the conference championships sort of the "semis"? And, if that's the case, you've basically got two teams, one of whom (Bama) didn't qualify to play in the "semis" and another who lost theirs. And I'm not arguing that these two teams aren't the best two teams in the country. But your side harps on how a play-off would take away from some of the games. Isn't making the title game for the most prestigious conference in America a formality sort of the same thing? Especially in light of the fact that the title game for the ACC, Pac 12 and Big 10 are essentially meaningless in terms of determining the Natl. Champ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEC=UGA Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 You guys need to start pulling for UGA, AU, and Arkie... They are the only teams that can fix this mess. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rockerbraves Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 If I may ask a question to the "the regular season is the play-off" camp? Say LSU beats ARK and goes to the SEC title game. Win or lose, you've got to figure they're in the BCS title game. Who jumps them? So, explain how all the games leading up to the BCS are a play-off when a team can lose their last game prior to the championship and still go? In your deluded little world, aren't the conference championships sort of the "semis"? And, if that's the case, you've basically got two teams, one of whom (Bama) didn't qualify to play in the "semis" and another who lost theirs. And I'm not arguing that these two teams aren't the best two teams in the country. But your side harps on how a play-off would take away from some of the games. Isn't making the title game for the most prestigious conference in America a formality sort of the same thing? Especially in light of the fact that the title game for the ACC, Pac 12 and Big 10 are essentially meaningless in terms of determining the Natl. Champ. Problem with the playoffs is that the two best teams might actually play in same division of the same conference. Which is sort of what I have been saying for the past few years about the SEC. This past weekend is exactly what makes college football regular season so much better than the NFL. And believe it or not there are still alot of things that could happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 Problem with the playoffs is that the two best teams might actually play in same division of the same conference. Which is sort of what I have been saying for the past few years about the SEC. This past weekend is exactly what makes college football regular season so much better than the NFL. And believe it or not there are still alot of things that could happen. LSU, Bama, and ARK could all be included in a 8 or 12 team play-off if there was one. And then all 3 would have the opportunity to prove it on the field. As it stands, if ARK beats LSU, all three are going to have the exact argument the others have. Each beat one of the other two and each has only a loss to one of the other two. And one of them is going to be left out. And what about this effed up situation? ARK beats LSU. I have no idea which of the those three then goes to #1, but it doesn't matter. Say that team then loses to UGA in the SEC title game. Do the two other teams, both idle that week jump them? Well that would be effing great, wouldn't it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEC=UGA Posted November 21, 2011 Share Posted November 21, 2011 LSU, Bama, and ARK could all be included in a 8 or 12 team play-off if there was one. And then all 3 would have the opportunity to prove it on the field. As it stands, if ARK beats LSU, all three are going to have the exact argument the others have. Each beat one of the other two and each has only a loss to one of the other two. And one of them is going to be left out. And what about this effed up situation? ARK beats LSU. I have no idea which of the those three then goes to #1, but it doesn't matter. Say that team then loses to UGA in the SEC title game. Do the two other teams, both idle that week jump them? Well that would be effing great, wouldn't it? Geaux Dawgs!!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLAYER Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 As a fan of the SEC, I think this is hilarious and just eating away at all those pac12 & okie wussies. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 As a fan of the SEC, I think this is hilarious and just eating away at all those pac12 & okie wussies. Besides millerx, who are you referring to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerx Posted November 22, 2011 Share Posted November 22, 2011 Besides millerx, who are you referring to? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 If I may ask a question to the "the regular season is the play-off" camp? Say LSU beats ARK and goes to the SEC title game. Win or lose, you've got to figure they're in the BCS title game. Who jumps them? So, explain how all the games leading up to the BCS are a play-off when a team can lose their last game prior to the championship and still go? In your deluded little world, aren't the conference championships sort of the "semis"? And, if that's the case, you've basically got two teams, one of whom (Bama) didn't qualify to play in the "semis" and another who lost theirs. And I'm not arguing that these two teams aren't the best two teams in the country. But your side harps on how a play-off would take away from some of the games. Isn't making the title game for the most prestigious conference in America a formality sort of the same thing? Especially in light of the fact that the title game for the ACC, Pac 12 and Big 10 are essentially meaningless in terms of determining the Natl. Champ. The regular season is basically a playoff. Get back to me if this 'what if' of yours actually happens. What if Notre Dame beats Stanford and jumps everybody? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprofessor Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 What if Notre Dame beats Stanford and jumps everybody? Notre Dame is irrelevant and has been for 20 years. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BS Miscreant Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 The regular season is basically a playoff. Get back to me if this 'what if' of yours actually happens. What if Notre Dame beats Stanford and jumps everybody? Ok, let's forget the "what if" that detlef presented. If LSU beat Arkansas and Georgia, win the SEC and finish unbeaten then they should be NC. End of discussion. After all, the regular season is basically a playoff. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pope Flick Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Notre Dame is irrelevant and has been for 20 years. So are detlefs questions, until it actually happens. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 So are detlefs questions, until it actually happens. That's just this year's version of the effed up scenarios. Are you honestly implying that there haven't been some screwed up deals in past years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theprofessor Posted November 23, 2011 Share Posted November 23, 2011 Ok, let's forget the "what if" that detlef presented. If LSU beat Arkansas and Georgia, win the SEC and finish unbeaten then they should be NC. End of discussion. After all, the regular season is basically a playoff. Got to agree with this. If they win their last two, they shouldn't have to play a NC game. Crown em'! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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