hooknladder Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Okung hurts pectoral on “unnecessary” play by Trent Cole Posted by Gregg Rosenthal on December 2, 2011, 9:13 AM EST Getty ImagesSeahawks left Russell Okung suffered what coach Pete Carroll termed a significant pectoral injury late in Thursday night’s game after a questionable post-whistle move by Eagles defensive end Trent Cole. The play came with 1:57 left in the game. I watched it again on NFL.com’s Game Rewind and Cole’s takedown should get some attention from the league. Okung is blocking Cole legally to the whistle even though the run is away from them. (The best view we can find online is here. It’s not ideal.) Cole gets upset after the whistle is blown and continues to grab at Okung’s arm. He hip tosses Okung to the ground like a wrestler. It sounds like Okung may be out for the year. “I didn’t see the play where they threw him down, but he got hurt,” Carroll said after the game via the Tacoma News Tribune. “He has a pec injury that doesn’t look good right now. From what I heard, it was really an unnecessary play that didn’t have to happen. You guys will probably see that.” At the very least, it was worth an unnecessary roughness penalty. Mike Sando of ESPN.com says that the Seahawks thought it was a cheap shot. Okung said he felt something pop. He had to hold his arm up after the game while others cut off his uniform around the injury. this post really belongs in the IDP forum, however considering the Suh thread it seemed to fit. if Okung is hurt, Cole better get >2 games. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 I don't see why any needlessly violent acts on the part of any player should go unpunished. I haven't seen the play, but sure, if it's bad, go ahead and suspend him. Fine with me. That said, I really think the NFL needs a points system. Like driving. They need to lay off calling aggressive hits as PF and just examine these hits post game in film, so they can really determine if the hit was just hard or really dirty. Of course, if someone pulls something obvious after a play or what not and the ref sees it, go ahead and flag it then and check the film to assign points. Then when the points add up, suspend, fine, both, what-have-you. It should be relatively simple if they do it that way. And you shouldn't have to actually injure a guy to get busted. The idea is to curb the behavior before someone gets hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 I was listening to this game on sirius and the announcers said right before the half that these 2 were going at it pretty good and had some extra curicular pushing and shoving going on after the whistle. Sounds like they went at it pretty good all game . Its a shame if he is lost for the year on a blow after the bell . cant really judge until we see the play though Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooknladder Posted December 2, 2011 Author Share Posted December 2, 2011 http://yfrog.com/7doxcz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 I guess he took offense to being massively blown off of the ball like he was on roller skates Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KOKIDKOKID Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 http://yfrog.com/7doxcz Wow was that video shot by the same camera crew that filmed the old Batman TV series? POW! BAM! KO'd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furd Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 http://yfrog.com/7doxcz One can't help but to look at that clip a little sideways. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 It was bush league. And you may want to edit the team name in your sig Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 It was bush league. And you may want to edit the team name in your sig You're kidding, right? Do you know how many players would be suspended if everyone who continued pushing and shoving after the whistle were reprimanded? I would guess most teams wouldn't be able to field a team. Lemme guess...its OK until someone is injured as a result. And no, my sigline will be perfect yet again in about five weeks In fact, its perfect now, as I am sure the guy who said it expected the team in question to be 11-0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted December 2, 2011 Share Posted December 2, 2011 Oh, C'mon, MAN! What Cole did was after the whistle, perhaps, and worthy of a 15 yars flag maybe, but to compare this to Suh.... gimme a break. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coordi88 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 suh didnt really mean it.. hes like a huge 12 year old. despicable, yes, but childish. to toss a 300 pound man takes some effort and intent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 (edited) And no, my sigline will be perfect yet again in about five weeks In fact, its perfect now, as I am sure the guy who said it expected the team in question to be 11-0. It's not fair to pick on him, he wears blue goggles with stars on the lenses EDIT: pushing and shoving is different from and arm bar hip toss. I don't think he should be suspended but back in the day I'd imagine a chop block would be in his future Edited December 3, 2011 by HowboutthemCowboys Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooknladder Posted December 3, 2011 Author Share Posted December 3, 2011 ....if Suh wanted to hurt the guys' arm he obviously could have...(he's 300 lbs.+)...a frustrated Cole clearly hip-whipped Okung with intent to harm -AND DID! -that's the difference. Suh has a reputation that precedes him and it clearly has hurt him, but if you take the emotion out of it, Coles penance has to be more severe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooknladder Posted December 3, 2011 Author Share Posted December 3, 2011 Russell Okung out for season with torn pectoral Posted by Michael David Smith on December 2, 2011, 6:57 PM EST Getty ImagesSeattle left tackle Russell Okung suffered an injury when he took a shot from Philadelphia defensive end Trent Cole on Thursday night that the Seahawks thought was a cheap shot. The league office will determine whether it’s a costly shot for Cole, but it was definitely a costly shot for Okung. ESPN’s Adam Schefter reports that Okung tore his pectoral muscle, a serious injury that will require six months of rehabilitation. Obviously, Okung is done for the season, and with a six-month time frame, Okung just has to hope rehab goes according to schedule so that he’s 100 percent when training camp starts next year. Okung is the Seahawks’ third starting offensive lineman to be lost for the season, joining right tackle James Carpenter and right guard John Moffitt. The sixth overall pick of last year’s NFL draft, Okung has started every game he’s played. But he missed six games last season and will now miss the final four games this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 (edited) ....if Suh wanted to hurt the guys' arm he obviously could have...(he's 300 lbs.+)...a frustrated Cole clearly hip-whipped Okung with intent to harm -AND DID! -that's the difference. Suh has a reputation that precedes him and it clearly has hurt him, but if you take the emotion out of it, Coles penance has to be more severe. at that entire post. Suh stomping on a defenseless playerlaying on his back after the whistle was very bad. b-b-b-b-ut he didnt WANT to try and hurt him. "hip-whipped with intent to harm"? You really think that was an "intent to harm"? Besides the fact that they were still engaged and Okung was still blocking him . . . It sucks that he was hurt, Cole should get a stiff fine, and maybe a stern talking to by Goodell. But in no way shape or form should that be a suspension. Edited December 3, 2011 by bpwallace49 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooty Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 at that entire post. Suh stomping on a defenseless playerlaying on his back after the whistle was very bad. b-b-b-b-ut he didnt WANT to try and hurt him. "hip-whipped with intent to harm"? You really think that was an "intent to harm"? Besides the fact that they were still engaged and Okung was still blocking him . . . It sucks that he was hurt, Cole should get a stiff fine, and maybe a stern talking to by Goodell. But in no way shape or form should that be a suspension. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gilthorp Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 If it's a serious comparison....wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hooknladder Posted December 3, 2011 Author Share Posted December 3, 2011 If it's a serious comparison....wow. ...-the guy's season is over because of a cheap shot after the play.....-you're right, -there's no comparison. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditkaless Wonders Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 tai otoshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 Im surprised how many people are brushing this play off. Cole was getting his ass handed to him on the field so he hip tosses Okung causing him to be out for 6 months. What would you rather receive , a stomp on the ground or be unexpectedly flipped during a play causing your chest muscle to rip to shreds Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 I don't think he should be suspended but back in the day I'd imagine a chop block would be in his future I agree....as in hockey, it would/should be settled by the players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coordi88 Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 (edited) lol so suh stomping a guy like a fairy is worse than this guy tossing a 300 pound man by ripping his pectoral muscle from his burritoing chest. you guys are diluted its the exact same display of frustration, only there was LESS THAN 2 MINUTES IN THE GAME, and HE burritoING TOSSED A LINEMAN you dont see that? the game was basically over and he ended a guys season because he was mad. the intent is there, he tossed him. what else do you want? Edited December 3, 2011 by coordi88 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditkaless Wonders Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 What goes around comes around. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted December 3, 2011 Share Posted December 3, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FurNYPD_wIY http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7G5h7RGoSoM...feature=related man, look at all this after-the-whistle with intent-to-injure (punches, kicks) activity....my mind must be going blank, as I can't remember all these guys being suspended Should Cole have been flagged? yep. Should he be fined? maybe. Will he be the subject of retribution the next time they play Seattle? probably. Is it in the same neighborhood as to what Suh did? not even close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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