Chavez Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Are any of you guys worried about one and done or two in the playoffs if they run into a team with a great defense? What team is that, in the NFC? SF? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 I posted the NFL Rulebook earlier this year, you should refer to it, and use it and not your opinion on how a play should be called. They showed one angle where he had the ball by the point in one hand...as his hand was moving the ball wasn't it then got knocked out...he had feet down....that is a catch in the EZ as well as on the field of play....but it was the type of play that most likely however called wouldn't get overturned...it was that close...and I found the video on NFL.com but they don't have the same angle of the play that shows the ball securely in his one hand Yep, it was inconclusive, thus the ref saying the call stands rather than being confirmed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Yeah, he never controlled it. I was sure that one was coming off the board. You can freeze frame anything to make it look like control. Far less control than Gresham's TD last week (that got reversed) By rule, you have to control it going to the ground. Gresham didn't do that. This doesn't matter in Jennings case...what mattered is if he controlled it at the end and got two feet down (which I'm not sure he did). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 I think you guys might be getting the "two steps and a football move" for a completion confused with what a TD catch is. Jennings had a TD there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNOWBOUND33 Posted December 5, 2011 Author Share Posted December 5, 2011 I think you guys might be getting the "two steps and a football move" for a completion confused with what a TD catch is. Jennings had a TD there. was it better than Megatrons non-td catch against the Bears last year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 One of the absolute beauties of FF message boards is that you get some people who don't know #### about football and yet feel the need to announce it to the world with authority. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wiegie Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 One of the absolute beauties of FF message boards is that you get some people who don't know #### about football and yet feel the need to announce it to the world with authority. don't worry, we still love you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaFreak Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 As a Bears fan, I thought it was only me that saw it!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 don't worry, we still love you Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 You wanna see an atrocious defense, watch the Colts every year. Fixed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNOWBOUND33 Posted December 5, 2011 Author Share Posted December 5, 2011 One of the absolute beauties of FF message boards is that you get some people who don't know #### about football and yet feel the need to announce it to the world with authority. Take that sig line off. It is sooooo offensive. Mostly to the movie. Proven time and time again, you sir, are a jackass. Period. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 (edited) I posted the NFL Rulebook earlier this year, you should refer to it, and use it and not your opinion on how a play should be called. They showed one angle where he had the ball by the point in one hand...as his hand was moving the ball wasn't it then got knocked out...he had feet down....that is a catch in the EZ as well as on the field of play....but it was the type of play that most likely however called wouldn't get overturned...it was that close...and I found the video on NFL.com but they don't have the same angle of the play that shows the ball securely in his one hand Nope. Not a TD. In super slow motion, it looks like he MIGHT have had a split second of control. But in live speed, he juggled it and then it was knocked out of his hand. You can make anything look like possession if you go slow enough. That was not a catch. Not a TD. Edited December 5, 2011 by CaptainHook Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 I think you guys might be getting the "two steps and a football move" for a completion confused with what a TD catch is. Jennings had a TD there. The "football move" was removed from the rule book a while ago. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecondString Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 One of the absolute beauties of FF message boards is that you get some people who don't know #### about football and yet feel the need to announce it to the world with authority. Not sure if this was targeted at me, but probably would have been appropriate. I plead ignorance here. Enlighten me. Admittedly, I've never picked up (nor read) an NFL rulebook, thus cannot recite the official "definition of a catch". But I've watched and enjoyed football for decades, and would have thought (and have always assumed) that one of the pre-requisites would be that the receiver catch and demonstrate control of the football while in bounds, to constitute a catch. In this case (the Jennings TD), I guess the only thing in question is "control". I didn't think he ever established control, looked to me like he was still attempting to while going out of the EZ as the defender simultaneously punched the ball out. I never saw control. Would be glad to hear what I'm missing, am interested. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNOWBOUND33 Posted December 5, 2011 Author Share Posted December 5, 2011 One of the absolute beauties of FF message boards is that you get some people who don't know #### about football and yet feel the need to announce it to the world with authority. You're pathetic. You are the anti-Jules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 (edited) Nope. Not a TD. In super slow motion, it looks like he MIGHT have had a split second of control. But in live speed, he juggled it and then it was knocked out of his hand. You can make anything look like possession if you go slow enough. That was not a catch. Not a TD. hence why the call stayed as is...you know, a catch for a TD Edited December 5, 2011 by keggerz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 hence why the call stayed as is...you know, a catch for a TD Yeah, the NFL refs never get it wrong. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i_am_the_swammi Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 By rule, you have to control it going to the ground. Gresham didn't do that. This doesn't matter in Jennings case...what mattered is if he controlled it at the end and got two feet down (which I'm not sure he did). Correct...because Jennings never went to the ground. Had he fallen or been tripped up, that play is ruled incomplete. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 don't worry, we still love you I appreciate that, GB. I really am trying to learn from all the eckspurts here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 Not sure if this was targeted at me Not sure why you'd think it was. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SNOWBOUND33 Posted December 5, 2011 Author Share Posted December 5, 2011 Not sure why you'd think it was. Jackass. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WaterMan Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 I'm sure whoever it was targeted to cares deeply. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecondString Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 (edited) Not sure why you'd think it was. Wasn't sure, really didn't matter. But I was pretty sure that there were others in the thread here who were more knowledgable than me who could straighten me out. I interpreted the final ruling that the play stands (they didn't say "confirmed" did they?) meant that they didn't have enough to say that he didn't get control at some point. Ruling would have probably stood no matter how it was ruled on the field. Edited December 5, 2011 by SecondString Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 was it better than Megatrons non-td catch against the Bears last year? Calvin Johnson went to the ground, Jennings did not. I believe this was a big factor. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted December 5, 2011 Share Posted December 5, 2011 I think Jennings TD was legit. The illegal touch after 5 yards was very suspect. It didnt impede the route and I am sure you see it on a lot of snaps in the the nfl. That was a hugh blow to the Giants Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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