archiebonker Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 I'm thinking of making a few changes to our league next year and one of them is Blind Bidding. Can you guys tell how it works on MFL and how do you break tie breakers if two guys bid the same amount? Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Next Generation Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 re Salary Cap Dollars And Blind Bidding Dollars Treated As One And The Same? No Do Winning Blind Bid Waiver Amounts Get Assigned As Player Salaries? No Maximum Amount Each Owner Can Spend During The Season On Blind Bid Waivers: $150 All Blind Bids Must Be In Increments Of: $1 Minimum Blind Bid Amount: $1 Amount charged to blind bidding balance for each player acquired via FCFS waivers: $10 Should "Blind Bidding Waivers" Be Automatically Processed? Yes Are Conditional Blind Bids Allowed? No Do Winning Blind Bid Waiver Amounts Get Charged To An Owner's Accounting Report As "Real" Dollars? No Blind Bidding Ties Are Broken By: Sort Criteria Listed Below Hint: All "Blind Bidding Sort Criteria" displayed below are applied in a "worst-to-first" manner. Blind Bidding Ties Sort Criteria #1: Total Points Scored Blind Bidding Ties Sort Criteria #2: Power Rank Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archiebonker Posted December 8, 2011 Author Share Posted December 8, 2011 Hey , thanks alot. So one question. What did you mean by FCFS? And when does your league usually hand out your waivers? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Hey , thanks alot. So one question. What did you mean by FCFS? And when does your league usually hand out your waivers? FCFS = First Come First Served. Some leagues do that after blind-bid waivers are processed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Hey , thanks alot. So one question. What did you mean by FCFS? And when does your league usually hand out your waivers? FCFS = First Come, First Serve A lot of the answers/advice will depend on your league. Is it an auction/salary cap league or is a draft league where you are looking to go to a bid system for free agents? Is it a keeper/dynasty league where you want bid dollars to carry over from year to year or do you want fresh balances starting each year? Answers to those questions will start to help frame the advice in how you should approach the setup in your league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archiebonker Posted December 8, 2011 Author Share Posted December 8, 2011 (edited) Hey Country. At the moment we are a 16 team , 4 Division league. We have a Waiver system that goes from Sunday till wed and after that it's free for all. I wanted to change this too a Blind bid league. Where we can bid till Wed. Then have a FCFS. But as of now, I'm not liking the way guys are waiting till after Wed to pick guys up to keep their Waiver priority. I want guys to compete more for waivers. I'm not sure if I should make a black out period before someone can go FCFS or just jack up the cost to pick up then. We've never had a Blind Bid Waivers. Oh...and I don't want anything to carry over. Our Draft is just a snake like Draft. Edited December 8, 2011 by archiebonker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Old Money Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 (edited) If your worried about guys waiting until after the first round of waivers to pick-up players and you want to go to a blind bid system. Keep your time frames the same (process Wednesday), but change the Blind Bid amounts such that a guy can bid $0 on a player, and FCFS waivers to cost $0, or $1 and $1. This way it costs the guy the same amount to get a player in the Blind Bidding as it would in FCFS waivers. If a guy wants to wait to pick up a player there is no benefit to waiting until after the blind bids have processed. He might as well just bid in the blind bidding round instead of waiting until the FCFS round, and he could miss out on a player that someone bids on in the Blind Bidding if he waited until FCFS. Edited December 8, 2011 by Old Money Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 Hey Country. At the moment we are a 16 team , 4 Division league. We have a Waiver system that goes from Sunday till wed and after that it's free for all. I wanted to change this too a Blind bid league. Where we can bid till Wed. Then have a FCFS. But as of now, I'm not liking the way guys are waiting till after Wed to pick guys up to keep their Waiver priority. I want guys to compete more for waivers. I'm not sure if I should make a black out period before someone can go FCFS or just jack up the cost to pick up then. We've never had a Blind Bid Waivers. Oh...and I don't want anything to carry over. Our Draft is just a snake like Draft. Well, with blind bids you can set it up so that there is no advantage to waiting, as Old Money alludes to. Just set the FCFS price to be the same as the Blind Bid period minimum, and then there is no advantage to waiting as there is in your current system. I have to run to a meeting real quick, but do the search on past posts (there have been several threads in the last few weeks on this very subject). They went into a lot of detail on various options and pros/cons of those options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Next Generation Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 (edited) At the moment we are a 16 team , 4 Division league. We have a Waiver system that goes from Sunday till wed and after that it's free for all. I wanted to change this too a Blind bid league. Where we can bid till Wed. Then have a FCFS. That is exactly how the rules I posted work. The BB FAs are processed automatically @ 6 PM ET Wed. Then, it's FCFS FAs with a flat $10 BB money charge per FA. That way, it makes it more economical to get your guys during BB FA period, usually. Edited December 8, 2011 by The Next Generation Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted December 8, 2011 Share Posted December 8, 2011 But as of now, I'm not liking the way guys are waiting till after Wed to pick guys up to keep their Waiver priority. I want guys to compete more for waivers. I'm not sure why you think it's so important to enforce YOUR opinion on the rules - what do the other owners want? That's the most important factor. Clearly if they aren't using their priority picks then, well, it's not a priority pickup. This late in the season the wire is picked clean - anyone that was going to break out already has, byes are done, and most people are now just taking fliers on upside guys or stocking for keeper/dynasty. I guarantee you if a "big-time" guy happens (Saine goes for a buck and a half + TD) those priority picks will get used fast. Having said that, blind bidding rules. It is far and away a better way to run pickups. Just make sure you don't give them the cheesy "may bid $1 if out of money" option. There needs to be a real fear to dumping your cash in chunks. I am in one league like this and it's kind of lame, because you know you can at least get Gabbert for a buck or something similar to avoid a donut so there's little restraint or budgeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archiebonker Posted December 8, 2011 Author Share Posted December 8, 2011 Thanks guys. I want to change these rules for next season and I just wanted more insight on how you guys run your blind bids. I like to hear how other leagues work and then work one that works best for ours. So... let me get this straight. You give each team $ ??? Min bid is $1 and max is what ever number you think above Keep our waiver ties the same (Sunday night till Wed 5pm est) No extra money when you use yours up. And tie breakers for BB would be?????? ( record or points? ) FCFS pickups should cost?????? I'll put this blue print in once I get these numbers Thanks for the help guys, I appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 There are probably as many answers to these as there are leagues doing blind bidding. There truly is no "standard", but I will provide the more common/simpler formats that I ahve seen utilized. These are also very similar to what the FFPB does for the contests. Give teams X amount - say 100 or 1000 Min bid is $1 up to their available balance Keep waivers the same. FFPC does not havea FCFS period, but I would suggest having one through the early Sunday kickoff. If you use it, that is it. Now, you can allow teams to trade FA dollars if you want to add that level of strategy. I personally am all for this, but leagues with beginners, etc. may not want to add this layer to it. Tie breakers should be the same as the itebreakers you use for standings. I'd assume record first for the majority of leagues, and then whatever your leagues defined standings criteria are (points, h2h, something else) I prefer FCFS pickups being equal to the minimum bid, so $1 in this case. Thanks guys. I want to change these rules for next season and I just wanted more insight on how you guys run your blind bids. I like to hear how other leagues work and then work one that works best for ours. So... let me get this straight. You give each team $ ??? Min bid is $1 and max is what ever number you think above Keep our waiver ties the same (Sunday night till Wed 5pm est) No extra money when you use yours up. And tie breakers for BB would be?????? ( record or points? ) FCFS pickups should cost?????? I'll put this blue print in once I get these numbers Thanks for the help guys, I appreciate it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archiebonker Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 Thanks BC for the help. I'll copy this down and try to put it in for next season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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