tazinib1 Posted December 28, 2011 Share Posted December 28, 2011 Be patient...the Browns are now in year 45 of their 50 year rebuilding plan. That's my dynasty rebuild line!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boltnlava Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 A coach's method of getting players hyped and ready to play wears thin after a few years. A change is just necessary to get players motivated. Especially if they have not won it all after 5 years or so. It's just the nature of the modern day beast. Coughlin may just be a victim of this and this only. He's a good coach whose method will work somewhere else. I think that's why the rinse and repeat coaches carousel is so tempting for teams. They know these men can coach and most likely get results right away . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday Couch Potatoe Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) totally agree with you here. There is a lot on the line Sunday night. More then just the division for JG and Romo. If Romo plays his way to a win it will go along way for his perception. If he loses and plays poorly it will do A LOT of damage. How much more damage could it do with a loss? Noone believes in him he gets snubbed during a pretty decent year because of previous chokes and bad play! So really the only thing that could happen is you stop believing he is the next big thing..... And honestly even with a 4 int. Game where he just Athenas the bed I believe there is no way that you stop believing in him! So its a win win for slip as he keeps his #1 nuthugger and keeps his after flight to cabo....win win no? Edited December 29, 2011 by Sunday Couch Potatoe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 How is this thread still alive? If it reaches a third of the Tebow thread I may jump off a short cliff. C'mon man, really? There's homers like Menudo... then... there's this. Wow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 How is this thread still alive? If it reaches a third of the Tebow thread I may jump off a short cliff. C'mon man, really? There's homers like Menudo... then... there's this. Wow. +1k shut up if you don't include Stafford. Pretty simple really. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 totally agree with you here. There is a lot on the line Sunday night. More then just the division for JG and Romo. If Romo plays his way to a win it will go along way for his perception. If he loses and plays poorly it will do A LOT of damage. You mean if Romo leads the Cowboys to a win over a tough NY Giants team? OK, what if he leads them to a win vs pretty mediocre Giants team that's lost 5 of its last 7 and been torched by pretty much every QB not named Mark Sanchez over the last month+? Because that's who they're playing. The Giants and Cowboys are playing for the right to be the team that both the Falcons and Lions are hoping they get in the play-offs. Not sure if that, in and of itself, buys you a whole hell of a lot of cred. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
historymike Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Not sure if that, in and of itself, buys you a whole hell of a lot of cred. +1. Romo can lose more credibility here with a loss, but he does not gain much with a victory over the G-men (his lifetime playoff record will still be 1-3). As talented as the Cowboys are, they have not been able to turn the raw talent into wins, and they have frittered away far too many games this year. The Giants, howver, were not picked by many folks to do much this year (at ESPN only one of 12 analysts picked NYG to make the playoffs, while five of 12 picked the Cowboys, though admittedly everyone was ga-ga over the Eagles in the preseason) and here in Week 17 they are still alive. Yes, a road win over the Giants in Week 17 gets the Cowboys in the playoffs, but on paper the Cowboys ought to be clobbering the Giants. Yet at this moment the Cowboys are 3-point underdogs to the G-Men, at least according to Vegas oddsmakers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
buddahj Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Stafford has 36 TDs, 14 INTs and 4600 yards and also didn't get into the Pro Bowl. +1 IMO the Pro Bowl amounts to precisely dick. Don't let it wrinkle your panties. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 1. brees 2. rodgers 3. stafford 4. eli then romo & alex smith:) just my opinion...this coming from a Romo nuthugger as Taz so eloquently describes:) anyway...Go Cowboys!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 If Dallas loses to the Giants it will be because of the D and not Romo. I also dont buy that the Giants or Dallas will be the sacrificial lamb to Det/Atl. Detlef, you are on a little high horse due to the 49ers finally putting a decent year together. Dont forget it was Romo that came back and beat you at home with one lung. Any given sunday brother. You won a division that includes all sub .500 teams. Not hating on the 49ers but the Saints and Pack will spank them just as easily as you say they will spank anyone from the east Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) If Dallas loses to the Giants it will be because of the D and not Romo. I also dont buy that the Giants or Dallas will be the sacrificial lamb to Det/Atl. Detlef, you are on a little high horse due to the 49ers finally putting a decent year together. Dont forget it was Romo that came back and beat you at home with one lung. Any given sunday brother. You won a division that includes all sub .500 teams. Not hating on the 49ers but the Saints and Pack will spank them just as easily as you say they will spank anyone from the east Not really that high of a horse... As a Niner fan, I want no freaking part of the Saints and am absolutely hoping they somehow crap the bed in the first round (assuming we get the bye). I'd love to be more confident about my team's chances against them, but I realistically can't. Regardless, I was simply responding to a blind homer saying that beating the Giants would somehow be feather in the cap for Romo's legacy. Edited December 29, 2011 by detlef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Not really that high of a horse... Stop refuting my baseless posts with facts Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Stop refuting my baseless posts with facts Sorry, I typically just do that with Bronco Billy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboyz1 Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 You mean if Romo leads the Cowboys to a win over a tough NY Giants team? OK, what if he leads them to a win vs pretty mediocre Giants team that's lost 5 of its last 7 and been torched by pretty much every QB not named Mark Sanchez over the last month+? Because that's who they're playing. The Giants and Cowboys are playing for the right to be the team that both the Falcons and Lions are hoping they get in the play-offs. Not sure if that, in and of itself, buys you a whole hell of a lot of cred. Ohhhh, hold on there sparky. If the cowboys get passed the Giants let me tell you something, it will be the other way around. The cowboys o firing on all cylinders is very scary and we handled the lions save giving them three pick sixes. The lions have a much better Def front then the falcons and Stafford to megatron is more dangerous. If and I mean a Giant if, we go to NY and pound big blue, we go to the divisional playoff game in GB. And GBs d is very poor and they have yet to see an o with as many weapons as the cowboys. First things first though. Beat them bums in blue! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) Ohhhh, hold on there sparky. If the cowboys get passed the Giants let me tell you something, it will be the other way around. The cowboys o firing on all cylinders is very scary and we handled the lions save giving them three pick sixes. The lions have a much better Def front then the falcons and Stafford to megatron is more dangerous. If and I mean a Giant if, we go to NY and pound big blue, we go to the divisional playoff game in GB. And GBs d is very poor and they have yet to see an o with as many weapons as the cowboys. First things first though. Beat them bums in blue! Are you saying for one second that the Falcons or Lions would rather play the Saints than the Cowboys? Yes or no will do. Oh, and as far as "firing on all cylinders, are you implying that they are? They're 1-3 over the past month with that one win being against a Tampa team that absolutely everyone has been thrashing. They're 3-3 if you count a 1 pt win vs Miami and an OT win vs Washington. Edited December 29, 2011 by detlef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubfoothead Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Are you saying for one second that the Falcons or Lions would rather play the Saints than the Cowboys? Yes or no will do. No. Are you saying who the Falcons or Lions would rather play means anything? Obviously a simple yes or no will do. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cowboyz1 Posted December 29, 2011 Author Share Posted December 29, 2011 Are you saying for one second that the Falcons or Lions would rather play the Saints than the Cowboys? Yes or no will do. Oh, and as far as "firing on all cylinders, are you implying that they are? They're 1-3 over the past month with that one win being against a Tampa team that absolutely everyone has been thrashing. They're 3-3 if you count a 1 pt win vs Miami and an OT win vs Washington. Uhhhh. No. What I am saying is the cowboys offense is really good and if our d could stop anyone we'd be far more dangerous then we are. Newman has clearly lost his ability to stay with recievers and our safeties are just not in position for some reason. What I'm.saying is the lions and falcons are going to have a tough go of it if they face the Cowboys in the first round of.the playoffs in dallas. I personally like our chances in either of those games more then I do Sunday. The cowboys simply must win Sunday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 No. Are you saying who the Falcons or Lions would rather play means anything? Obviously a simple yes or no will do. Yes Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clubfoothead Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Yes I'm not taking that bait. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 Uhhhh. No. What I am saying is the cowboys offense is really good and if our d could stop anyone we'd be far more dangerous then we are. Newman has clearly lost his ability to stay with recievers and our safeties are just not in position for some reason. What I'm.saying is the lions and falcons are going to have a tough go of it if they face the Cowboys in the first round of.the playoffs in dallas. I personally like our chances in either of those games more then I do Sunday. The cowboys simply must win Sunday. The winner of the Giants Cowboys game will be the most flawed team in the NFC play-offs. But let's get one thing straight, this whole sidetrack came about because I'm simply saying that, if beating the Giants on Sunday is a feather in Romo's cap, it says a lot about the lack of feathers he has. Because, in the big picture, it's beating a team that is simply not very good or consistent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 I'm not taking that bait. ? It matters in as much as it's a reflection on how prestigious a win it will be for the Cowboys. To beat an average team and, thus, be the team that everyone is hoping they get to play in the 1st round of the play-offs. Nothing more than that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 The winner of the Giants Cowboys game will be the most flawed team in the NFC play-offs. But let's get one thing straight, this whole sidetrack came about because I'm simply saying that, if beating the Giants on Sunday is a feather in Romo's cap, it says a lot about the lack of feathers he has. Because, in the big picture, it's beating a team that is simply not very good or consistent. Its all about which D shows up for dallas. If Ryan can devise a plan to at least slow down the Giants I think we can beat them. I do have faith in the Cowboys offense. Once the playoffs start either of these teams have the fire power on O to hang but I think both of the defenses are very shaky . The Gaints pass rush is better. I would love for the Cowboys to beat the Giants just to get their hat in the ring and see what happens. If their D miraculously put some decent efforts together they could be a lot less of a push over than you think. All of this is meaningless until one of these teams wins sunday. I dont give 2 shits if the Lions or Falcons are licking their chops for the winner of this match up. Be careful what you wish for Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 ? It matters in as much as it's a reflection on how prestigious a win it will be for the Cowboys. To beat an average team and, thus, be the team that everyone is hoping they get to play in the 1st round of the play-offs. Nothing more than that. It means winning your division and making the playoffs. I dont really care who they beat to get there. I may have been off about your expectations of the 49ers in the playoffs but how prestigious is it that you only had to beat out the Cards, Seahawks and Rams to get in ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 It means winning your division and making the playoffs. I dont really care who they beat to get there. I may have been off about your expectations of the 49ers in the playoffs but how prestigious is it that you only had to beat out the Cards, Seahawks and Rams to get in ? The Niners were 3-1 each vs the two other divisions that they played including the AFC North who may send 3 teams to the play-offs. So, yes, if they amassed a good record entirely on the strength of beating up on the NFC West, I'd get your point. But they didn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice1 Posted December 29, 2011 Share Posted December 29, 2011 There are several QB's deserving of QB3 in this pro bowl for the NFC this year. Romo, Eli, and Stafford are all having very good years overall at the position but in the end it is a popularity contest. Romo has to overcome the botch snap stigma which is tough, even though that ball was greased causing a rule change. (yes, I am a bitter Cowboy fan ) That said, I have no issues with Eli making it this year. Lots of players get snubbed given there are not that many positions to fill. The NFC has far better QB's overall than the AFC so this happens. No doubt a strong case can be made for all three so even if Romo did make it the other two would have a case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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