tazinib1 Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 As much as I hate to admit it when I'm wrong about a player, Cam Newton wins this award hands down. Did not see this coming and its making me re-evaluate my draftnick prowness. On the defensive side of the ball, Aldon Smith gets my nod. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delusions of grandeur Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 As much as I hate to admit it when I'm wrong about a player, Cam Newton wins this award hands down. Did not see this coming and its making me re-evaluate my draftnick prowness. On the defensive side of the ball, Aldon Smith gets my nod. I don't think anyone could have predicted that Cam would be this good this quickly... You saw flashes from his time at Auburn, but he was supposed to be coming in extremely raw, with only 1 year as a starter in a not-so-NFL spread offense, and sailing and throwing inaccurate passes at the combine. How quickly he was able to put it all together is nothing short of remarkable. AJ Green has to get some consideration for OROTY too, coming in as pro-ready as possible. I'm almost convinced that he's the most prototypical WR you can get, with having no weaknesses in his play, size, speed. Calvin and Julio might be bigger monsters with their size and leaping ability, but AJ can make catches look easy that they drop... Over 1,000 yards in his rookie year with a rookie QB who doesn't have a particularly great arm, and was a big part of taking the lowly Bungles to the playoffs, and I think non-UGA-homers will agree, that he's right behind Cam if not right up with him in being the rookie MVP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 Yep...AJ Green will get some votes and make it look credible. But Cam should get the 1st place votes by a wide margin. As for the DROY, I had Von Miller locked into the award until about 3 weeks ago. Over the past 3 weeks, Miller has totaled 2 tackles, zero sacks and was benched yesterday for lack of effort. NOT DROY material. Smith was running neck and neck with him anyway....just makes it easier. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scooby Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Cam will prob get it, but Dalton would get my vote JJ Watt and also Jurrell Casey--both were spectacular Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 Cam will prob get it, but Dalton would get my voteJJ Watt and also Jurrell Casey--both were spectacular I'm a big JJ Watt fan...for the record. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rovers Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Too bad Cruz isn't eligable too... it was for all intents and purposes his first year in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 As much as I hate to admit it when I'm wrong about a player, Cam Newton wins this award hands down. Did not see this coming and its making me re-evaluate my draftnick prowness. On the defensive side of the ball, Aldon Smith gets my nod. I would have thought your pathetic dynasty performance would have done that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave Sherman Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 As much as I hate to admit it when I'm wrong about a player, Cam Newton wins this award hands down. Did not see this coming and its making me re-evaluate my draftnick prowness. On the defensive side of the ball, Aldon Smith gets my nod. I agree with both of these. I was skeptical about Cam at first too, but I too have to admit I was totally wrong. I think that AJ Green and Dalton may get some votes as well, but they had much more support around them than Cam. He definitely deserves it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted January 2, 2012 Author Share Posted January 2, 2012 I would have thought your pathetic dynasty performance would have done that for the record, I probably have the best drafts in dynasties. I just trade them away Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted January 2, 2012 Share Posted January 2, 2012 Jabaal Sheard was pretty impressive but I don't think he beats out Aldon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lobo214 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I would vote Dalton but you are right Cam will get it. Does anyone thing Patrick Peterson CB will be in the running for Def Rookie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ditkaless Wonders Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Seems to me a strong rookie class. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 I would vote Dalton but you are right Cam will get it. Does anyone thing Patrick Peterson CB will be in the running for Def Rookie I made a strong case for the dude in NE last year. He will get some 3rd place votes at best. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Irish Doggy Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I think Newton gets it for sure. Dalton had a terrific year getting to the playoffs with an aging Benson and rookie #1 WR. Newton has better stats, and he would be in the playoffs too if the Panther defense could stop anyone. Bengals D allowed 100 fewer points than the Carolina D this year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 (edited) As for the DROY, I had Von Miller locked into the award until about 3 weeks ago. Over the past 3 weeks, Miller has totaled 2 tackles, zero sacks and was benched yesterday for lack of effort. NOT DROY material. Smith was running neck and neck with him anyway....just makes it easier. Miller hasn't been playing because the cast on his hand doesn't allow him to shed blockers like he had previous to the injury - which has seriously affected his production. It has nothing to do with a lack of effort. Seriously, can you provide some credible link that supports your claim? Edited January 3, 2012 by Bronco Billy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecondString Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I don't think anyone could have predicted that Cam would be this good this quickly... You saw flashes from his time at Auburn, but he was supposed to be coming in extremely raw, with only 1 year as a starter in a not-so-NFL spread offense, and sailing and throwing inaccurate passes at the combine. How quickly he was able to put it all together is nothing short of remarkable. AJ Green has to get some consideration for OROTY too, coming in as pro-ready as possible. I'm almost convinced that he's the most prototypical WR you can get, with having no weaknesses in his play, size, speed. Calvin and Julio might be bigger monsters with their size and leaping ability, but AJ can make catches look easy that they drop... Over 1,000 yards in his rookie year with a rookie QB who doesn't have a particularly great arm, and was a big part of taking the lowly Bungles to the playoffs, and I think non-UGA-homers will agree, that he's right behind Cam if not right up with him in being the rookie MVP. Yeah, I'm a UGA homer (Richt sux, but that's another topic). As good as AJ has been, and as big a surprise as he's been this early, and as glas as I am to see it, he's not in Cam's league as far as ROTY consideration for this season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 I think you need to make a point of looking for reasons not to give to Newton and Aldon Smith. I thought that Newton would be better than most were assuming, but only as much as I didn't think he'd suck like it seemed everyone else did. I had no idea he'd be this good. I simply thought he had a better set of skills than all the guys he was being compared to. Bigger and more durable than Vick, a better head on his shoulders than Young, and that the only thing he had in common with Russel was that both were big and black. As for Smith, I was effing pissed with the selection. It seemed like a reach and all the descriptions of him on draft reports looked liked things you say about a guy because you're trying hard to say something nice. Needless to say, I'm thrilled to be wrong about that one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 Miller hasn't been playing because the cast on his hand doesn't allow him to shed blockers like he had previous to the injury - which has seriously affected his production. It has nothing to do with a lack of effort. Seriously, can you provide some credible link that supports your claim? Well if you insist. Broncos OLB Von Miller was benched for ineffectiveness in Week 17.Source: Denver Post Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgaddis Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 Well if you insist. Not to defend Bronco Billy but benched for ineffectiveness was due to the cast i assume...and not effort Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 Not to defend Bronco Billy but benched for ineffectiveness was due to the cast i assume...and not effort I agree. Sometimes I have to spell things out .... I just assume people can read between the lines. I suppose "Lack of Effort" was the wrong terminology .....hell he SHOULD win DROY but he won't. It will go to Smith. And its ok to defend BB....he needs friends too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgaddis Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 And its ok to defend BB....he needs friends too. yeah but now I need a shower Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 yeah but now I need a shower Does being on the right side of the facts make you feel dirty? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted January 3, 2012 Author Share Posted January 3, 2012 Does being on the right side of the facts make you feel dirty? ZING!!!! Wait a minute!!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 And its ok to defend BB....he needs friends too. As in Ditkaless Wonders Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Azazello1313 Posted January 3, 2012 Share Posted January 3, 2012 newton and von miller. but man, looking at the candidates....gotta say with one year of hindsight this was a pretty strong draft class. weren't people calling it a weak one at the time? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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