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Bears OC Mike Martz Resigns


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Those first nine games with Cutler was the best your offense has looked in a long long time I thought.

 

Edit Matrz might be looking for a head coaching job considering all the jobs available and the job he did with Da Bears

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Those first nine games with Cutler was the best your offense has looked in a long long time I thought.

I don't think that really means a lot. The Bears have had terrible QBs forever. The offense always seems to sputter at times (especially early in the season) because Martz wanted to run 7 step drop passes with a bunch of mediocre WRs and a questionable O-line. After a few losses and about 5 games into the season (last year and this year), they actually start running the ball more and they offense starts to actually produce most of the time. Cutler gets hurt and somehow Martz thinks its a good idea to go back to 7 step drops with a backup QB. So he may be an offensive "genius" but I think he is equal parts stubborn jackass.

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Edit Matrz might be looking for a head coaching job considering all the jobs available and the job he did with Da Bears

Yep, there's an awful lot of opportunity out there right now. I can think of no other reason he'd leave now.

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I've always been a fan of Martz and this year he proved to me that he is willing to adjust. I started to get skeptical after last season but this year he commited to the run and Cutler looked the best he's ever looked. I don't even know who the Bears will get as an OC now. Who's even available?

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I've always been a fan of Martz and this year he proved to me that he is willing to adjust. I started to get skeptical after last season but this year he commited to the run and Cutler looked the best he's ever looked. I don't even know who the Bears will get as an OC now. Who's even available?

Besides guys who are completely qualified and yet the vast majority of us have never heard of?

 

I always get a bit of a chuckle when someone asks that. About coaches, and even more about OCs or DCs. This came up in another thread and someone listed all the guys who most of us would recognize as if that's the extent of the viable candidates. It reminds me of how hard a job it must be for GMs. You need to make good hires, but you'll get crucified by people on the outside if they don't recognize the dude's name.

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I've always been a fan of Martz and this year he proved to me that he is willing to adjust. I started to get skeptical after last season but this year he commited to the run and Cutler looked the best he's ever looked. I don't even know who the Bears will get as an OC now. Who's even available?

 

 

There are a ton of quality football minds out there this year. Like Detlef mentioned, most of them you would not recognize by name. I've tried to keep up with all the OC/DC/HC/GM hires and fires in years past, but this year we'll see a TON of movement. Not as much as 2009 (11 new HC's I believe) for HC's but for OC/DC's in general. There are some small school college coaches I would love to see get a chance in the NFL this year.

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Besides guys who are completely qualified and yet the vast majority of us have never heard of?

 

I always get a bit of a chuckle when someone asks that. About coaches, and even more about OCs or DCs. This came up in another thread and someone listed all the guys who most of us would recognize as if that's the extent of the viable candidates. It reminds me of how hard a job it must be for GMs. You need to make good hires, but you'll get crucified by people on the outside if they don't recognize the dude's name.

Yeah, I meant who's available that has a proven track record. I know there are tons of guys who are "available" but I'd prefer a proven commodity.

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Yeah, I meant who's available that has a proven track record. I know there are tons of guys who are "available" but I'd prefer a proven commodity.

I'd rather not pretend I know that much and just hope my team grabs the best guy out there, even if I don't know his name.

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I'd rather not pretend I know that much and just hope my team grabs the best guy out there, even if I don't know his name.

So I can't be curious?

 

Is this your way of dodging the question because you just don't know? You don't have to play uber smart in every post. Sometimes it's just fun to have, you know, a football discussion.

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I've always been a fan of Martz and this year he proved to me that he is willing to adjust. I started to get skeptical after last season but this year he commited to the run and Cutler looked the best he's ever looked. I don't even know who the Bears will get as an OC now. Who's even available?

 

 

Todd Haley.

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Todd Haley.

 

I think this is actually a very good match. It won't matter if they don't give Cutler some weapons to work with. I mean, Knox and Williams led the WR's with 37 catches this year. Forte had the team lead in receptions.

 

37 catches for the #1 WR...that is absolutely maddening to watch.

 

Everyone sees where this league is going. It's getting easier to pass, you get more free reign in between the hashes with the contact rules...

 

The list of horrible WR's this team has had rostered for the last 8 years is only trumped by the list of QB's they trudged out there in between McMahon and Cutler.

 

Would the Bears have developed a Victor Cruz? No....they took a marginal DB and most prolific returner in history, and shoved it down everyone's throats that he is a WR. They need someone like a Haley with some fire and a FU attitude.

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So I can't be curious?

 

Is this your way of dodging the question because you just don't know? You don't have to play uber smart in every post. Sometimes it's just fun to have, you know, a football discussion.

No, this is my way of saying that I think it's silly the degree to which people need to pretend they know who is good at everything.

 

I bothered to bring it up because this has come up before. I forget the topic but it was basically, "If not Cower, than who?" Something like that, and they listed all the candidates who most of us would know. The retreads, the guys like Martz, the OCs and DCs who've had their names kicked around a bunch, and that was it. As if that was the entire universe of viable candidates for NFL jobs. That, somehow, the guy had to come from that list.

 

All I know is that there've been no shortage of guys who I didn't know anything about who have become pretty solid HCs, let alone OCs and DCs. Mostly because I'm not an industry insider, so I don't know who is going to be the next great guy.

 

Remember when Bronco was so tickled with laughter because Tim Rattay (I think) had been hired to coach Cam Newton during the lockout? Why did he have to pretend to have any idea at all whether Rattay was or wasn't qualified to do that? In hindsight, it looks like Newton could have done worse, no?

 

So, no. This is not me dodging the question because I don't know. This is not me playing "uber smart". This is me saying flat out "I don't know". If there's an "uber smart" element it's that I'm saying you probably don't either but insist on pretending you do.

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No, this is my way of saying that I think it's silly the degree to which people need to pretend they know who is good at everything.

 

I bothered to bring it up because this has come up before. I forget the topic but it was basically, "If not Cower, than who?" Something like that, and they listed all the candidates who most of us would know. The retreads, the guys like Martz, the OCs and DCs who've had their names kicked around a bunch, and that was it. As if that was the entire universe of viable candidates for NFL jobs. That, somehow, the guy had to come from that list.

 

All I know is that there've been no shortage of guys who I didn't know anything about who have become pretty solid HCs, let alone OCs and DCs. Mostly because I'm not an industry insider, so I don't know who is going to be the next great guy.

 

Remember when Bronco was so tickled with laughter because Tim Rattay (I think) had been hired to coach Cam Newton during the lockout? Why did he have to pretend to have any idea at all whether Rattay was or wasn't qualified to do that? In hindsight, it looks like Newton could have done worse, no?

 

So, no. This is not me dodging the question because I don't know. This is not me playing "uber smart". This is me saying flat out "I don't know". If there's an "uber smart" element it's that I'm saying you probably don't either but insist on pretending you do.

 

 

I don't pretend to be a know it all either, but per his question, IMO, here are some guys from the NCAA ranks that deserve some consideration:

 

Todd Grantham -- Geogia

Kevin Steele -- Clemson

Jim Heacock -- Ohio State

Brent Venables -- Oklahoma

John Chavis -- LSU

Monte Kiffin -- USC

Bud Foster -- Virginia Tech

Kirby Smart -- Alabama

Bill Cubit -- Western Michigan

Larry Blakeney -- Troy

June Jones -- SMU

Tim Beckman -- Toledo

Robb Akey -- Idaho

George O'Leary -- UCF

Mario Cristobal -- Florida International

Rick Stockstill -- Middle Tenn

Larry Fedora -- Southern Mississippi

Ken Niumatalolo -- Navy

 

 

 

I hope a few of these guys are given coordinator jobs this year. I don't think any of them land a HC gig, but you will be hell bent finding better candidates for the OC/DC positions.

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No, this is my way of saying that I think it's silly the degree to which people need to pretend they know who is good at everything.

 

I bothered to bring it up because this has come up before. I forget the topic but it was basically, "If not Cower, than who?" Something like that, and they listed all the candidates who most of us would know. The retreads, the guys like Martz, the OCs and DCs who've had their names kicked around a bunch, and that was it. As if that was the entire universe of viable candidates for NFL jobs. That, somehow, the guy had to come from that list.

 

All I know is that there've been no shortage of guys who I didn't know anything about who have become pretty solid HCs, let alone OCs and DCs. Mostly because I'm not an industry insider, so I don't know who is going to be the next great guy.

 

Remember when Bronco was so tickled with laughter because Tim Rattay (I think) had been hired to coach Cam Newton during the lockout? Why did he have to pretend to have any idea at all whether Rattay was or wasn't qualified to do that? In hindsight, it looks like Newton could have done worse, no?

 

So, no. This is not me dodging the question because I don't know. This is not me playing "uber smart". This is me saying flat out "I don't know". If there's an "uber smart" element it's that I'm saying you probably don't either but insist on pretending you do.

:tup: Wow. So you got all that from this?

 

I've always been a fan of Martz and this year he proved to me that he is willing to adjust. I started to get skeptical after last season but this year he commited to the run and Cutler looked the best he's ever looked. I don't even know who the Bears will get as an OC now. Who's even available?

 

 

Smoke a joint or have a drink :wacko: You're waaaayyyyy too high strung regarding this topic, fella.

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:wacko: Wow. So you got all that from this?

Um, no. I got this from your quote:

 

Besides guys who are completely qualified and yet the vast majority of us have never heard of?

 

I always get a bit of a chuckle when someone asks that. About coaches, and even more about OCs or DCs. This came up in another thread and someone listed all the guys who most of us would recognize as if that's the extent of the viable candidates. It reminds me of how hard a job it must be for GMs. You need to make good hires, but you'll get crucified by people on the outside if they don't recognize the dude's name.

 

I guess I locked in on the "even" in "who's even available". As if to imply some urgency because all of the guys whose names we know are already spoken for. And that anyone else would be a reach. A sentiment that you later confirmed.

 

My point is. There's a decent chance that you will not know much about the guy they hire and that, despite that, he may actually be a very qualified OC. Mostly because, like the rest of us, you're not an NFL executive who spends all day every day talking to coaches and other execs.

 

That's really it.

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