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Patriots Offensive Coordinator Bill O'Brien hired by PSU


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So, as a PSU fan, I'm not sad, I'm not excited, I'm somewhere in the middle. I wanted to get some thoughts from Patriots fans and others on what they think of O'Brien. I truly know very little about the guy.

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So, as a PSU fan, I'm not sad, I'm not excited, I'm somewhere in the middle. I wanted to get some thoughts from Patriots fans and others on what they think of O'Brien. I truly know very little about the guy.

 

Nobody really knows much about any Patriots assistants. They are not allowed to talk to media, so I'm not sure I've heard O'Brien's voice before. And it's very tough to tell how much of this offense is his, and how much is the 'system'. The offense has pretty much been the same for 4-5 years now. I'm sure he has made changes and put his stamp on it, but only BB could really tell you how much.

 

I feel the same way, sort of in the middle. The Pats have lost offensive assistants before, and really never missed a beat. The defense is another story. So from my point of view, meh, so long? I'm not heartbroken.

 

From a PSU point of view, I think it will be a good hire. There is no way they could have brought in anybody who played for Sandusky, coached with Sandusky, or really had any ties to him at all. This is a clean break and a fresh start. I think O'Brien is a hard nosed, disciplined guy who should bring structure to the program, and with the offense he runs, PSU should at least be more fun to watch and higher scoring (last in Big 10 this past season).

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Not a ton of healthy limbs on Bill's coaching tree.

 

Weis failed at ND

Mc Daniels has been a train wreck

Mangini? He's at ESPN

Romeo? Maybe he can make it happen in his 2nd shot?

 

That's it. Romeo, who led KC to an upset over Green Bay a few weeks ago might be the crown jewel so far.

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Not a ton of healthy limbs on Bill's coaching tree.

 

Weis failed at ND

Mc Daniels has been a train wreck

Mangini? He's at ESPN

Romeo? Maybe he can make it happen in his 2nd shot?

 

That's it. Romeo, who led KC to an upset over Green Bay a few weeks ago might be the crown jewel so far.

Romeo is very underrated in my opinion. Cleveland just can't be a good team, I don't care who coaches them. I take one look at Romeo Crennel and I'm instantly motivated to be a better project manager. I don't know what it is, something about him. If KC is smart and they make him the permanent HC, I'm loving them as a Super Bowl contender next year. You heard it here first.

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O'Brien spent his entire coaching career in college. His only NFL stop has been with the NEP as O coordinator. Smart guy that went to Brown, same as JoePa. Only problem I see is the fact that he loves to throw the ball, and PSU has absolutely terrible QB's. Morningwhig's son is there now, and he is supposed to be a blue chip QB. Hope it works out.

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Romeo is very underrated in my opinion. Cleveland just can't be a good team, I don't care who coaches them. I take one look at Romeo Crennel and I'm instantly motivated to be a better project manager. I don't know what it is, something about him. If KC is smart and they make him the permanent HC, I'm loving them as a Super Bowl contender next year. You heard it here first.

 

Gee thanks I guess it is time to officially give up and find another team to follow.

 

Seriously KC as a SB contender, why?

 

I take one look at Romeo Crennel and I'm instantly motivated to enroll in a weight loss program. Another good co-ordinator that isn't (or wasn't) ready to be a HC.

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I think programs just keep trying to grab these Belichick assistants before they are ready (or in the case of Weis and Crennel despite evidence that an HC position might not be the best fit), mainly because they feel like if they don't that someone else will get them by the time they are ready.

 

I don't get the logic. Didn't see how Weis, Crennel, Mangini or McDaniels would make a great HC. I was rooting for all of them except the Rat to succeed, but never thought they would.

 

I hope Bill O'Brien succeeds, but I'll be somewhat surprised if he does.

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So, it seems LaVar, and I've been told others in the PSU "family" are pissed that they went outside the "family" for the coach.

 

Are you freaking kidding me? That was absolutely the only option if they want to put this behind them.

 

Agree 100%.....they definitely had to go outside for this hire. i'd say Arrington and Short are over-reacting in a big way.

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Agree 100%.....they definitely had to go outside for this hire. i'd say Arrington and Short are over-reacting in a big way.

They'll chill out if the new guy embraces the alumni and traditions. As a Nebraska fan, when Callahan started to wipe his ass with traditions and treat the alumni like chit, I knew his days were numbered.

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Agree 100%.....they definitely had to go outside for this hire. i'd say Arrington and Short are over-reacting in a big way.

Arrington is now a talking head in DC, and he may or may not have come out and said this stuff without a mic in his grill for four hours a day... but that fact certainly brought it to the forefront.

 

PSU is going to be a mess for the next decade, if not longer.

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From a PSU point of view, I think it will be a good hire. There is no way they could have brought in anybody who played for Sandusky, coached with Sandusky, or really had any ties to him at all. This is a clean break and a fresh start. I think O'Brien is a hard nosed, disciplined guy who should bring structure to the program, and with the offense he runs, PSU should at least be more fun to watch and higher scoring (last in Big 10 this past season).

 

Why couldn't they bring in someone with a connection to the program? Maybe if no one wanted the job....but a guy with no head coaching experience, no tie to the university, and ESPN's only footage of him demonstrates that Tom Brady doesn't have a lot of respect for him?.....seems like an odd hire to me.

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Why couldn't they bring in someone with a connection to the program? Maybe if no one wanted the job....but a guy with no head coaching experience, no tie to the university, and ESPN's only footage of him demonstrates that Tom Brady doesn't have a lot of respect for him?.....seems like an odd hire to me.

 

they need to cut all ties to Paterno and Sandusky. The PR blitz and nightmare would be endless. There's going to be more coming out from this thing, and if somebody remotely tied to any new allegations were at the school as a coach, well, not good. I highly doubt there will even be any assistants with PSU ties on the staff.

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Why couldn't they bring in someone with a connection to the program? Maybe if no one wanted the job....but a guy with no head coaching experience, no tie to the university, and ESPN's only footage of him demonstrates that Tom Brady doesn't have a lot of respect for him?.....seems like an odd hire to me.

Dude may be an odd hire, but they had to go outside the program. They need a guy who, if asked about the scandal can look the reporters in the face and say, "you probably know more about it than I do. I've been here since last week and I don't know anything I didn't see on the news. In fact, I've never met Sandusky in my life."

 

Anyone who was involved with the program over the last 20 years is going to get the questions. "Did you know anything?" "Did you hear anything?" Did you suspect anything?

 

Some dude that had nothing to do with PSU can simply say, "Nope."

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So, it seems LaVar, and I've been told others in the PSU "family" are pissed that they went outside the "family" for the coach.

 

Are you freaking kidding me? That was absolutely the only option if they want to put this behind them.

 

lol @ anyone giving a rat's ass what a d-bag like Arrington thinks.

 

I'm pretty neutral on it too but think someone who has had success as HC elsewhere might have been better. A promotion from within would have been nice and I totally disagree they had to go "outside" on this hire, but once again PSU execs hear the witch-burnin mob outside pounding on the door and so cowered in a corner, threw out O'Brien, and went "here! you happy? please don't burn us at the stake!"

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So, it seems LaVar, and I've been told others in the PSU "family" are pissed that they went outside the "family" for the coach.

 

Are you freaking kidding me? That was absolutely the only option if they want to put this behind them.

 

PSU will do what it has to to make this mostly disappear. Doesn't mean former and current students/players will be happy about it.

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they need to cut all ties to Paterno and Sandusky. The PR blitz and nightmare would be endless.

 

I don't buy that. Penn St. has just about the largest, deepest, and most loyal fanbase in college football. It has a long line of former players and coaches who bring plenty of stature with the institution and the people who support the program. I understand not hiring anyone on the current staff, or perhaps anyone that worked for Sandusky or could be construed as a "puppet" of Paterno (that manipulative controlling 85 year old demon-man), but the idea that they have to cut all ties and completely distance themselves from everything for PR purposes? I don't buy that and I bet there's a lot of alums and boosters who will not buy into it as well.

 

I predict a long, dark, difficult road back to respectability.

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I understand not hiring anyone on the current staff, or perhaps anyone that worked for Sandusky or could be construed as a "puppet" of Paterno (that manipulative controlling 85 year old demon-man), but the idea that they have to cut all ties and completely distance themselves from everything for PR purposes? I don't buy that and I bet there's a lot of alums and boosters who will not buy into it as well.

I think we need to be very clear here. The Penn State football program harbored a pedophile for decades,. This likely occurred with institutional knowledge and longstanding institutional inaction. Multiple PSU employees should and hopefully will feel the full weight of the law on their pathetic necks. Here's the way this should have gone:

1. Shut down the football program.

2. Clean house.

3. Reboot with a clean slate.

 

The alums and boosters need to realize that the team bringing all this stature to the institution was harboring a child rapist. This is called total institutional corruption - everyone bears that stain. Seriously, who the hell cares if the new coach has PSU ties? This is not a PR ploy - this is being able to look yourself in the mirror and realize you finally, after years of neglect, decided to do the right thing. Personally, I think O'Brien will make a fine coach and can set a good example. He may not be an elite choice but right now the program just needs to try and stop taking on water. O'Brien will do that.

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