Seattle LawDawg Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Local News Report Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 As long as he calls plays with those big boards with people on them, I'll be on board. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Kelly deserves his shot. As a Duck homer, I'd hate to see him go. But if he does, I'd be pretty stoked for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Kelly deserves his shot. As a Duck homer, I'd hate to see him go. But if he does, I'd be pretty stoked for him. Is he a pro coach though? I've always thought of him as a guy who's coaching style doesn't translate to the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Is he a pro coach though? I've always thought of him as a guy who's coaching style doesn't translate to the NFL. Good question. Not really sure how he will translate to the NFL but again, I think he deserves a shot. This is rumor from what I'm reading though as the Bucs would have to shell out some serious coin to buy out Chips contract. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 This sounds like a disaster in the making for Tampa Bay to me. A hurry up offense smoke and mirrors scheme isn't going to work in the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Dick Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 This sounds like a disaster in the making for Tampa Bay to me. A hurry up offense smoke and mirrors scheme isn't going to work in the NFL. Agree. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 This sounds like a disaster in the making for Tampa Bay to me. A hurry up offense smoke and mirrors scheme isn't going to work in the NFL. Agree. Maybe you haven't seen this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I think he deserves a shot. Based on what? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Based on what? 3 straight conference Championships since his arrival. 3 straight BCS bowl games and a Rose Bowl win for the first time in 95 years? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) I guess a better question would be is how much long-term success have offensive schemes like the Run N Shoot and Wildcat had in the NFL? Edited January 23, 2012 by bushwacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly Rodgers Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) Local News Report I had a feeling this was coming. He can't be any worse than Rah... And you all thought the Glazers were going to hire an old guy, just not their style! Edited January 23, 2012 by Jolly Rodgers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jolly Rodgers Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 "Kelly has had huge success at Oregon, where he’s coached the last three seasons. He’s won three straight conference championships and appeared in three BCS games. His highlight came this past season when the Ducks won the Rose Bowl for the first time in 95 years. Although Kelly doesn’t come with a rich NFL history, he does fit Tampa Bay’s profile in other ways. At 48, he’s much more mature than Raheem Morris, the former Bucs coach. Kelly also has a reputation as a disciplinarian, another departure from Morris' profile. He’s suspended two key players in recent years. He was also Oregon’s coach when running back LeGarrette Blount, now with the Bucs, was involved in an infamous postgame fight. Again, the Glazer family, which owns the team, often operates very quietly. But there’s at least the possibility Kelly may be coming to them with a very weighty recommendation. Former Tampa Bay coach Tony Dungy recently said he thought Kelly would make a very good NFL coach. Dungy’s son, Eric, is a wide receiver at Oregon. Although Dungy has made it clear he does not want to return to coaching, the Glazers might have consulted with him about potential candidates that would bring stability similar to what the Bucs had in Dungy’s time with the team. Assuming this deal gets done, I'm sure Kelly would be an upgrade over Morris. Is he a better coach than the eight other candidates known to have interviewed with the Buccaneers? Time will tell on that. None of those guys really excited me. But Kelly, and the possibilities he brings, at least intrigue me. That alone could make him a good fit for this job." http://espn.go.com/blog/nfcsouth/post/_/id...-for-buccaneers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 I guess a better question would be is how much long-term success have offensive schemes like the Run N Shoot and Wildcat had in the NFL? Well, for the run and shoot as the primary offensive scheme: Jerry Glanville coached 8 yrs in Houston and Atlanta, went 63-73, 4 playoff berths. Wayne Fontes ran the r&s for a few yrs in Detroit - 13-19 in 90-91 with Mouse Davis as OC, 67-71 overall with 4 playoff appearances. Jack Pardee went 44-35 with 4 playoff berths in 5 yrs coaching Houston. June Jones went 19-29 in Atl, with 1 playoff appearance. But I guess it depends on how you define "long-term success" - it's pretty tough to name an NFL team that does NOT use some form of run-and-shoot principles in its offense. Maybe the Tebow Broncos. So it's around, it's just not the primary offense of any team. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seattle LawDawg Posted January 23, 2012 Author Share Posted January 23, 2012 I'm a big fan of Chip and what he is doing with Oregon and for that alone, I want him to stay. As long as he is here, we're not going to have any problem recruiting offense. What RB wouldn't want to play in that offense? I don't think his system will carry over to success in the NFL. It's built for college and that's where it should stay. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
godtomsatan Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 While I do believe Chip Kelly is about as brilliant an offensive mind as there is, his system has not produced many NFL players. It's all about speed speed speed. I admit I'm mildly curious how he'll turn out, and extremely happy he's bailing from the Pac-12. Does this mean sanctions from that "recruiting service" fiasco last summer are near??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Does this mean sanctions from that "recruiting service" fiasco last summer are near??? Ala Pete Carroll??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chavez Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) I'm a big fan of Chip and what he is doing with Oregon and for that alone, I want him to stay. As long as he is here, we're not going to have any problem recruiting offense. What RB wouldn't want to play in that offense? I don't think his system will carry over to success in the NFL. It's built for college and that's where it should stay. I'm not 100% familiar with Kelly's system....basically I think what matters is "can he create matchup problems for the defense?" and "can he keep his QB upright?" If he is able to do those two things, he's got a shot. If he's any sort of offensive mind at all, people will mock him and then steal what works from his offense. EDIT - Here's a neat article on Oregon's offense. Although I'd dispute that they use the Wyche no-huddle; they are more along the lines of Buffalo's K-Gun offense, which was the same strategy, executed differently, and with a different mindset. Edited January 23, 2012 by Chavez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ice1 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) I guess a better question would be is how much long-term success have offensive schemes like the Run N Shoot and Wildcat had in the NFL? What does this have to do with anything? Just because he uses a run a shoot style sometimes in college doesn't mean he will in the pros. He is considered one of the top offensive minds in the game today and in addition to being a very good head coach he also has coordinator experience on the defensive side of the ball. I am pretty sure he understands the hash mark difference and that impact on the game. Edited January 23, 2012 by Ice1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rajncajn Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
piratesownninjas Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 You get Spags as your DC, and now this? Unreal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Footballjoe Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 The reports in this morning per ESPN is that he turned the job down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 The reports in this morning per ESPN is that he turned the job down. Just heard the same thing. Great news for Duck fans!! QUACK QUACK!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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bushwacked Posted January 23, 2012 Share Posted January 23, 2012 (edited) Just heard the same thing. Great news for Duck fans!! QUACK QUACK!! What does this have to do with anything? Just because he uses a run a shoot style sometimes in college doesn't mean he will in the pros. Not that it matters now, but shucks; I figured the inherit risk of paying a guy of ton of coin to run a style of offense at a pro level he hasn't had recent experience and success doing at the college level was such an obvious factor it didn't need to be pontificated upon. Edited January 23, 2012 by bushwacked Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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