Dynasty Offseason Questions

[Old Money]

I joined my first dynasty league (full IDP) the past season and did fairly well (7-6) despite some injuries (Charles, Forte, J. Beason, E. Berry). I can see some spots on my roster that need to be filled and which positions I'm strong at. I have a couple of question for you experienced dynasty leaguers out there:

 

1. Our league opened up trading as soon as the Super Bowl ended, but the WW is still locked until preseason games start. I'm wondering when does trading typically get going in dynasty leagues? (i,e, after FA settles down, after the rookie draft)

 

2. How do people typically draft players in the rookie draft? Is it like the NFL where some teams draft for need and others take best player available? What can I expect out of the other guys in my league?

 

3. I noticed in our initial draft that IDP players didn't start going off the board until around the 6th round or so. Do IDP players typically fall to the later rounds of the rookie draft as well, or should I expect that they're mixed in with the offensive players in the first couple rounds? (Our rookie draft is 6 rounds, with 12 teams, for 72 total players).

 

Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated.

[Servo]

I joined my first dynasty league (full IDP) the past season and did fairly well (7-6) despite some injuries (Charles, Forte, J. Beason, E. Berry). I can see some spots on my roster that need to be filled and which positions I'm strong at. I have a couple of question for you experienced dynasty leaguers out there:

 

1. Our league opened up trading as soon as the Super Bowl ended, but the WW is still locked until preseason games start. I'm wondering when does trading typically get going in dynasty leagues? (i,e, after FA settles down, after the rookie draft)

 

2. How do people typically draft players in the rookie draft? Is it like the NFL where some teams draft for need and others take best player available? What can I expect out of the other guys in my league?

 

3. I noticed in our initial draft that IDP players didn't start going off the board until around the 6th round or so. Do IDP players typically fall to the later rounds of the rookie draft as well, or should I expect that they're mixed in with the offensive players in the first couple rounds? (Our rookie draft is 6 rounds, with 12 teams, for 72 total players).

 

Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated.

 

1) The Dynasty League i am in FA starts after the Superbowl too.

 

2) Talent then team needs that's how i do it.

 

3) sorry not in a IDP league and not sure how many rounds your Rookie draft is. My league has 3 rounds for the Rookie draft so 30 picks total.

[tazinib1]

I joined my first dynasty league (full IDP) the past season and did fairly well (7-6) despite some injuries (Charles, Forte, J. Beason, E. Berry). I can see some spots on my roster that need to be filled and which positions I'm strong at. I have a couple of question for you experienced dynasty leaguers out there:

 

1. Our league opened up trading as soon as the Super Bowl ended, but the WW is still locked until preseason games start. I'm wondering when does trading typically get going in dynasty leagues? (i,e, after FA settles down, after the rookie draft)

 

2. How do people typically draft players in the rookie draft? Is it like the NFL where some teams draft for need and others take best player available? What can I expect out of the other guys in my league?

 

3. I noticed in our initial draft that IDP players didn't start going off the board until around the 6th round or so. Do IDP players typically fall to the later rounds of the rookie draft as well, or should I expect that they're mixed in with the offensive players in the first couple rounds? (Our rookie draft is 6 rounds, with 12 teams, for 72 total players).

 

Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated.

 

 

1. Depends on your league set up. I am in several dynasty IDP leagues and they all vary. For me, I like leagues where trading is allowed year round (except the typical cutoff during the season and playoffs). For serious IDP'rs, this keeps owners active year round.

 

2. Always draft for need unless its a reach then take the BPA. Nothing wrong with having extreme depth at any position.

 

3. Depending on league size and scoring, I've seen LB's go in the top 10. Typically, LB's are the best scoring IDP position, hence the greater need.

[Zooty]

I joined my first dynasty league (full IDP) the past season and did fairly well (7-6) despite some injuries (Charles, Forte, J. Beason, E. Berry). I can see some spots on my roster that need to be filled and which positions I'm strong at. I have a couple of question for you experienced dynasty leaguers out there:

 

1. Our league opened up trading as soon as the Super Bowl ended, but the WW is still locked until preseason games start. I'm wondering when does trading typically get going in dynasty leagues? (i,e, after FA settles down, after the rookie draft)

 

2. How do people typically draft players in the rookie draft? Is it like the NFL where some teams draft for need and others take best player available? What can I expect out of the other guys in my league?

 

3. I noticed in our initial draft that IDP players didn't start going off the board until around the 6th round or so. Do IDP players typically fall to the later rounds of the rookie draft as well, or should I expect that they're mixed in with the offensive players in the first couple rounds? (Our rookie draft is 6 rounds, with 12 teams, for 72 total players).

 

Any help you can give me would be greatly appreciated.

 

1- Trading in all of my leagues opens up sometime between Jan and mid-Feb. FA runs start happening by March

 

2- I'd expect people to draft for need (and RBs). Not many draft BPA. I try to draft BPA. especially in the later rounds

 

3- Really depends on how valuable they are. The scoring and starting requirements, etc. But I'd say mid to late 1st depending on the player. Willis was going as high as 3. I actually saw Von Miller go at 1.01 but generally the top Lb will go after 7 overall

Edited February 18, 2012 by Zooty

[Zooty]

2. Always draft for need unless its a reach then take the BPA. Nothing wrong with having extreme depth at any position.

 

I completely disagree with this. If every player was a sure thing then I would say draft for need. Too many miss and you need to take the best players on the board. Deal with it later and trade them for your real needs or adress needs in FA or via trades. Drafting for need can leave you in a horrible 5 year rebuilding mode

[tazinib1]

Drafting for need can leave you in a horrible 5 year rebuilding mode

 

And you tell me this 5 years later?

[Zooty]

And you tell me this 5 years later?

[J Dawgma]

I've just completed my first year with a Dynasty IDP/PPR League and I've come to the realization that it can be as CRAZY as you want to allow it to become. Just know that "BPA" is a relative term. If your starting roster is inclusive of "Defensive Backs," you don't necessarily want a "Shut Down" corner on your roster, because the ball is never thrown his direction, so he get's no points. The Safety position appears to me to be more valuable than a Corner Back, because the Safety tends to be a "Ball Hawk" and is involved with more stats. With ALL this being said, depending on the number of rounds of your "Rookie" draft, although Defensive Backs generally score more points in this NFL's current "pass happy" league, I wouldn't recommend drafting the "best one." More than likely, I wouldn't draft one at all, because a "190-210 point" Defensive Back is a dime for THREE dozen. Pay attention to the waiver wire and you'll always be able to pick one up on the cheap

 

Defensive Ends are ALWAYS involved in more stats than Defensive Tackles. More often than not, Defensive Tackles are strictly put there to tie up more than one blocker at a time. Other than the elite, they don't pursue the play. But beware of the defensive coordinator's scheme, because an AWESOME Defensive End can easily be re-defined into a good Outside Linebacker (see Mario Williams, DeMarcus Ware). As Defensive Ends, they'd be racking up major points for their position, but if they're labeled as "Line Backers" in your league, they're more than likely barely decent

 

For all it's worth, my recommendation would be to rank your best players by position. In a PPR league, Running Backs that are sure to be part of the passing game are GOLDEN (see MJD, Matt Forte, Roy Helu). Petersen and Turner are great, but you're going to be primarily dependent upon touchdowns, and as those drop, so go the points (also see Blount, Igram)

 

Receivers and Line Backers are where I'd put your second level of weight. Justin Blackmon and Michael Floyd should more than likely be among the top five selections, EASY. Primarily because of the targets they should receive on whichever team they go. When looking at Receivers, you want those that are targeted a lot. It seems to me, "Wide Outs" are no where near as valuable as those receivers in the "Slot." Although Mike Wallace was great, in our league Antonio Brown averaged less than 2pts a game less and was had for basically nothing. And Brown didn't become a starter until mid-way through the season. Wes Welker was the 2nd best receiver with only 9 touchdowns. Look for potential targets when evaluating a receiver. And as far as linebackers go...? You want those that are predicted to MIDDLE LINEBACKER. Go for those that pursue EVERY play. London Fletcher is a stud! Regardless of size, Luke Kuechly should be a solid selection and be a future Brian Urlacher or John Lauranitis

 

With the exception of your TOP tier (Cam Newton 2011 and Luck/Griffin 2012), Quarterbacks should make up your fourth tier. I wouldn't expect Tannehill to be picked until at least the top 6-8 Running Backs/Wide Recievers are selected. And even though Line Backers appear to be weak this year, I can see 4-6 being drafted prior to the third Quarterback. So Ryan will more than likely be taken off the board around selection 24 (depending on the team that selects him and the probability of him starting right off the bat).

 

Let me continue with don't ignore Defensive Ends and Tight Ends in this draft. Before the year started, I expressed how it seemed too many teams were ignoring the Tight End and filling it in late. Players like Gronkowsky, Graham, and Hernandez are proving the point that more teams seem to be leaning towards utilizing the short pass to the Tight End in lieu of a stale running game. Remember, Marcus Colston was originally drafted as a Tight End by New Orleans. Defensive Ends are a whole new breed. Tell me who wouldn't love to have a non-stop pursuit machine like Jason Pierre-Paul or Jared Allen. Keep an eye on Coples, Perry, Branch and Mercilus. Tall, athletic, and solid on pursuit. Depending on the team that selects him, getting Coples anywhere from 10-16 in an IDP/PPR league should prove to be a solid move.

 

Finally, don't worry about kickers. They're not even worth reviewing. I hope this toilet material was worth a read and provides some valuable advice. At least I can guarantee it's worth the price. PEACE!

Edited March 14, 2012 by J Dawgma

[Ice1]

Rule number 1 is to really understand your scoring system. Our league has been around a long time and is very balanced between offensive and defensive positions.

 

As an example we give 3 points per tackle and 1.5 points per assist for DE/DT and 2 points per tackle and 1 point per assist for LB's. These nuances are huge from a valuation process.

 

In our league defensive players will go all over the place in round 1 of a rookie draft. This year I expect one LB and one DE to go in the 6-10 range but then again JPP was 8th overall in scoring and 3rd overall if you don't count QB's.

 

However, if your scoring system is unbalanced degrading defensive scoring compared to offense then thier value will drop substansially in drafts and should.

 

Generaly speaking 4/3 DE's are gold but they take 2-3 years to develop and have a bust factor. 3 down inside LB's are also gold. DB's are pretty much a dime a dozen in any league but experienced IDP players would gamble on DB#2 on a team. In other words the guy on the other side of a player like Revis. In balanced scoring leagues rewarding tackles SS in most schemes are better targets than CB's.

 

When looking defensive players in trades it is usually far better to look at actual weekly scoring than big total points. The better teams in IDP have learned long ago that consistent balanced scoring is far better than the highs and lows of studs like Ware as an example. In most leagues a solid LB like D'Qwell Jacskon is way more valuable but again check scoring system between tackle and sack points awarded.

 

Good luck.

Edited March 15, 2012 by Ice1

[piratesownninjas]

I actually saw Von Miller go at 1.01 but generally the top Lb will go after 7 overall

 

Not sure we'll ever see that again. It's a shock that the team that did this has the 1.1 this year.