Chief Dick Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 (edited) I've heard through the grapevine that Bowe is pretty much holding out because he doesn't want to go through training camp. Apparently he has a group on his "payroll", so there's no chance he won't sign his tender for the franchise tag. Mainly because he needs the money to keep things going. Which means, he'll probably sign with a week to 10 days before the first game. I would proceed cautiously with Bowe. He's never been the best at keeping himself in shape, plus he has a new offense to learn, and he's had NO time with the new offense in live action. To me, this combo makes him a HUGE risk. Edited August 8, 2012 by Chief Dick Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fingfootball Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Yep. I hope I'm wrong but I'll bet he will be unconditioned and an injury prone season. What a JELLY BEAN. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delusions of grandeur Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 I prefer compounds, cuz the crossbows seem like cheating. Can't go wrong with a PSR. If you want a real challenge, go for the old-school recurve bows. (Na seriously, thanks for the info , though I will say that every year I doubt Bowe and then usually somewhat regret it.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Dick Posted August 8, 2012 Author Share Posted August 8, 2012 (Na seriously, thanks for the info , though I will say that every year I doubt Bowe and then usually somewhat regret it.) I hear you. Except he's had to play for his payday he was expecting to get. He didn't get it this year, so there's no telling where his mind will be when he finally shows up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripleshot Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Usually guys play better in their contract years. It's not until the first year of their shiny, new contract that they show up fat and out of shape. I'm not a CHief homer, though, so inside info is appreciated. Walter Jones used to hold out every preseason, show up at camp just in time to start the season, and he did fine. Then again, he was a perrenial all pro and will be a first ballot hall of famer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Based on virtually every mock I've done (both snake and auction), I'm guessing Bowe is going to be cheap enough that he'll be worth the risk. I think the most I've paid for him has been about $10-15 and I don't think I've seen him come off the board until at least around pick 50. Given the up-side, I'm cool with that price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Had to take a look for myself - holy crap, Bowe is WR22 and VJax is WR23, both going in the middle of the 5th round of FF drafts per their ADPs. I'm getting a feeling this is a great year to trade down and get multiple 3rd to 5th round picks, especially with the craving for 1st round QBs. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Usually guys play better in their contract years. It's not until the first year of their shiny, new contract that they show up fat and out of shape. I'm not a CHief homer, though, so inside info is appreciated. Walter Jones used to hold out every preseason, show up at camp just in time to start the season, and he did fine. Then again, he was a perrenial all pro and will be a first ballot hall of famer. Little bit easier to do as an offensive lineman than a WR. Plus taking it easy on aging linemen is not uncommon, so the team was probably ok with this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Had to take a look for myself - holy crap, Bowe is WR22 and VJax is WR23, both going in the middle of the 5th round of FF drafts per their ADPs. I'm getting a feeling this is a great year to trade down and get multiple 3rd to 5th round picks, especially with the craving for 1st round QBs. Exactly. In mock auctions where I've done the equivalent to what you're saying, passing on the high priced dudes and loading up in the middle, I've ended up with some good looking squads. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Had to take a look for myself - holy crap, Bowe is WR22 and VJax is WR23, both going in the middle of the 5th round of FF drafts per their ADPs. Probably deserving of it's own thread, but, in your opinion (and anyone else out there reading this), do you think their current ADPs are more indicative of an overreaction to their current situations (hold out for Bowe, new team, etc. for VJax), or an indicator of the relative depth of the WR position this year? Without giving away too much of the paid content here, the Huddle rankings for these players has VJax ranked fairly significantly higher than his ADP while Bowe is ranked right in line with his ADP. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Probably deserving of it's own thread, but, in your opinion (and anyone else out there reading this), do you think their current ADPs are more indicative of an overreaction to their current situations (hold out for Bowe, new team, etc. for VJax), or an indicator of the relative depth of the WR position this year? Without giving away too much of the paid content here, the Huddle rankings for these players has VJax ranked fairly significantly higher than his ADP while Bowe is ranked right in line with his ADP. Funny, my assumption before looking it up was to think that Bowe was being unfairly discounted because he had such a great 2010 and then came back to earth. Sort of the thinking that I feel is driving the "Will Rivers bounce back?" thread. So I looked it up and he's really not. He finished 20th in Huddle performance (though 14th in PPR). So, at least in non-PPR leagues, he's just coming off the board slightly behind where he ranked last year. And, given the hold-out, that seems entirely fair. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Started an independent thread about early midround value. Good suggestion as always BC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted August 8, 2012 Share Posted August 8, 2012 Started an independent thread about early midround value. Good suggestion as always BC Have to finish prepping for a meeting, but that new thread is interesting and I'll make a point to pop in and at least provide some comments - probably won't be able to until this evening. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fingfootball Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 http://profootballzone.com/nfl/dwayne-bowes-dodge-charger-decked-out-in-chiefs-colors/#&panel1-6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted August 9, 2012 Share Posted August 9, 2012 Bowe's my WR3 in a start 3 WR PPR League...fingers crossed. I don't mind that Charger so much. If it wasn't red and yellow... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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