Grits and Shins Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 I hope so ... I'm making him my first overall pick in F-OFF. Of course Arian Foster, Ray Rice, LeSean McCoy, Darren McFadden, Marshawn Lynch and DeMarco Murray are already off the board (keepers). Passing on Ryan Mathews because of his injury. Passing on MJD because of his hold out (see CJ last year). Really the only other back I considered was Matt Forte ... I'm sure I made the wrong choice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papajohn Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 Actually it is based on the injury history of all three players. McFadden has missed 19 games in 3 seasons to injury, Forte has been limited by injury as well. Johnson on the other hand has not and has been a workhorse back. Thanks for your post though it was a great addition to the thread. Oh wait... I was making fun of you because you presented your opinion as divine truth. You basically stated that Chris Johnson for sure would finish ahead of Forte, SJax, Jamaal Charles, etc. because 2011 was an undebatable anomaly and we should all disregard it as such. There is simply no way to know this, and to state it with such certainty doesn't add anything to the thread either. You even do the same thing in your latest posts. Since you got offended by a three second video, I guess you are going to have a hard time here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted August 23, 2012 Share Posted August 23, 2012 I was making fun of you because you presented your opinion as divine truth. You basically stated that Chris Johnson for sure would finish ahead of Forte, SJax, Jamaal Charles, etc. because 2011 was an undebatable anomaly and we should all disregard it as such. There is simply no way to know this, and to state it with such certainty doesn't add anything to the thread either. You even do the same thing in your latest posts. Since you got offended by a three second video, I guess you are going to have a hard time here. Its often hard to reason with people who start threads/polls like this. All they want is somebody to back up their opinion or decision. They don't really want differing opinions, just positive reinforcement. And I had to laugh at the part about Johnson being a workhorse back. Sure prior to last year, but last year he was a turd for his ADP. And I and many others are not certain that won't be the case again. Top 5 back, no I don't think so. Could it happen, sure. But I wouldn't count on it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 not looking too awesome tonight Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supadupafly87 Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Tonight better not be what's to come. I drafted CJ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Pimp Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 He looks like he's just expecting to be hit right away and slowly runs into the defender and goes down. No attempt to make a move or hit a lane hard. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White lightning Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 He made a couple of 8yd+ runs, but he was stuffed for little to no gain on most of his attempts. I also didnt see CJ catch any balls out of the backfield. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SpeedRacer Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 As if it needs to be said over and over again: it's preseason. Even still, the Cardinals' run defense is no joke. If you own CJ, you have to like what you see from Locker and Wright. When Britt comes back (and stays on the field) that group of WR's will give him some room to work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 While that is true, not many owners are complaining when McFadden is healthy. McFadden missed two games in 2010 and he was still a top 5 overall RB by seasons end. Evaluation of numbers over the 2010-11 seasons leads me to believe that McFadden may out-produce a full seasons worth of CJ in as little as 10 games. Both CJ and McFadden carry risk, while CJ has multiple questions (desire, did he lose a half-step? attitude, is his team and O-line any good?), the only notable one, allbeit it a big one, for McFadden is health. Given the plethora of sleeper/potentially-productive/serviceable type RBs ADP'ing in rounds 6 through 14, I'm personally going for the home run swing in McFadden given the choice between the two. Especially in competitve leagues. Very solid post and, I wonder how bummed anyone who drafted both MdFadden and Bush were last year? McFadden tears it up and then Bush steps right in and does quite well. Says a lot about the Oakland running game. It's a bit murkier this year because neither Goodsen or Taiwan is Bush and there's some debate about who is truly #2 (I lean towards Goodsen). But, still, it's fun to come out the gate watching your RB go for 100 and TD rather than 62 yards on 18 carries. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted August 24, 2012 Share Posted August 24, 2012 Wow, after 2 complete duds including the all-important week 3 PS games, I'm not sure anyone ought to be comfortable with Johnson as their R-B1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bushwacked Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Should we clear the poll results and re-vote? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecondString Posted September 16, 2012 Share Posted September 16, 2012 Should we clear the poll results and re-vote? Yeah, and make it top 35. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TurboCowboy Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Yeah, and make it top 35. Now that is a great idea! Somebody please start that poll. My guess is he ends up somewhere around 40th. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckDuckGoose Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 He's checked out... Like a book in a library. I don't see the return date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelsosi Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 So is CJ throwing his O-line under the bus with this quote, or is he acknowledging some of the blame. Tough to tell. http://www.tennessean.com/article/20120916/SPORTS01/309160103/Chris-Johnson-blames-bad-execution-Tennessee-Titans-run-game-problems?nclick_check=1 “People need to step up and do their job,” Johnson said. “They don’t need to let people beat them. It don’t matter who the opposing defense is, you can’t let your guy beat you. You just can’t give up plays. You have to make plays like they make plays. I can’t speak for the defense. I can only speak for the offense.” Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SecondString Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 So is CJ throwing his O-line under the bus with this quote, or is he acknowledging some of the blame. Tough to tell. http://www.tennessea...?nclick_check=1 “People need to step up and do their job,” Johnson said. “They don’t need to let people beat them. It don’t matter who the opposing defense is, you can’t let your guy beat you. You just can’t give up plays. You have to make plays like they make plays. I can’t speak for the defense. I can only speak for the offense.” Sounds a lot like finger pointing to me. Key word above...."They" 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I understand that this never goes over well, but both he and Cutler have a point. Now, perhaps they shouldn't show guys up publicly, but that's beside the point that the lines in these cases are failing to do their job. I didn't catch the SD game, but if it was anything like the NE game, Barry Sanders may be the only back I've seen in my lifetime who could have managed squat given what was going on. People are dogging him for not hitting the hole and dancing in the backfield. OK, what hole? He was being met in the backfield essentially every play. These are grown men who get paid a lot to do a job in a cut-throat, violent game. Yet, every time someone is mean to them, we pretend it's little league where it's all supposed to stay positive and, "you'll get him next time, Billy." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delusions of grandeur Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Some clever nickname mockery for CJ?K, CJnoK, but my favorite still stands from last season, CJ2YPC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LB49ers Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 would starting Hasselbak improve his game? Locker blows, having Britt on my team I'm hoping for Hasselbak return. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricrelish Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 would starting Hasselbak improve his game? Locker blows, having Britt on my team I'm hoping for Hasselbak return. Me too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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