Atlas Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 (edited) For those of us considering or have dratfed Chris Johnson.... ..have you handcuffed Javon Ringer, or have you just grabbed the best potential fill-in available? I just can't seem to justify, in my mind, taking Ringer, even though I expect he would be insured the bulk of the touches if CJ goes down. Edited August 27, 2012 by Atlas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Pimp Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Drafted CJ last night at 1.10 (12 team league, ppr) but I did not draft, nor did I consider drafting, Ringer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Dick Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I've never been a big fan of the handcuff in general. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorcher Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I have CJ and not going after Ringer as there are better values at replacement RB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I only hand-cuff a guy if it's like Houston or Oakland where the back-up is bound to go off in their absence. Otherwise, I'd rather just spend later picks on other RBs that I think have a chance of putting up good numbers if my projected starters either suck or get hurt. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattsass Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I can't remember the last time a handcuff paid off for me. These days I only target players with potential to be "stand alone" fantasy helpers. Guys capable of unseating RB1's or at least cutting into their workload significantly. Ringer does not fit that profile in my eyes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hat Trick Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I've never been a big fan of the handcuff in general. THIS. It rarely ever works out. Every time I have drafted a backup it was just a waste of roster space. I can see where there is a RBBC like Carolina or something, but I'm not drafting Ray Rice's backup, as an example. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Agreed on all fronts. The days of the "handcuff" are pretty much dead. There are a few exceptions however...but yeah. Dead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Against Machine Rage Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Nah, Ringer nor Harper are worth having as you wouldn't feel real good starting them if CJ went down. Only real handcuffs today or like Charles/Hillis and Forte/Bush, because these guys could actually be really nice RB1 and Flex starters each week AND you have a nice injury buffer. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I can't remember the last time a handcuff paid off for me. I do, Ben Tate last year. He got me through Foster's slow start and then, because he was still scoring enough, was useful as my 2nd Flex when Foster came back. I didn't expect the 2nd part but drafted him entirely to handcuff an already injured Foster. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattsass Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I do, Ben Tate last year. He got me through Foster's slow start and then, because he was still scoring enough, was useful as my 2nd Flex when Foster came back. I didn't expect the 2nd part but drafted him entirely to handcuff an already injured Foster. Well, there's one. But I own Tate in dynasty and found him pretty much useless after Foster came back. The games you expected him to get "mop up" duty never really panned out, so you never really knew when you would be safe to start him. Maybe your league was bigger than mine. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brentastic Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 I've never been a big fan of the handcuff in general. +1 except for the rare exceptions like Arian Foster where you KNOW that Tate will produce nearly identical stats. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Maybe your league was bigger than mine. That's what she said. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 Drafted CJ last night at 1.10 (12 team league, ppr) but I did not draft, nor did I consider drafting, Ringer. Same here and did the same in another league when it came to McCoy. Hell, does McCoy even have a clear cut handcuff? Lewis, Brown, Polk? However, I would grab Tate as Tate is not only a great handcuff but he has his own value as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rattsass Posted August 27, 2012 Share Posted August 27, 2012 However, I would grab Tate as Tate is not only a great handcuff but he has his own value as well. I hate to keep harping on this, but it is largely false. In the 11 games following Foster's full return to duty, Tate had 4 PPR points or less in 7. His other games netted 10, 17, 12, 12. So if you are some sort of mystical fortune teller, and can forecast which 1/3 of games he will actually be valuable in, I guess Tate has his own cache. This seems to be one of the biggest myths in fantasy football this year. Unless the Texans change their philosophy Tate has little value outside of a handcuff. That's the reality. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papajohn Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I hate to keep harping on this, but it is largely false. In the 11 games following Foster's full return to duty, Tate had 4 PPR points or less in 7. His other games netted 10, 17, 12, 12. So if you are some sort of mystical fortune teller, and can forecast which 1/3 of games he will actually be valuable in, I guess Tate has his own cache. This seems to be one of the biggest myths in fantasy football this year. Unless the Texans change their philosophy Tate has little value outside of a handcuff. That's the reality. Let's not forget about Forte losing the goal line carries to Michael Bush. I think that one tops the myth about Tate. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 Don't really do handcuffs ... not a big fan on using 2 roster spots for the same player. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bpwallace49 Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I would rather pick up a RB in a committee than a guy that will do nothing unless there is an injury That spot is then useless during a bye week Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 (edited) BTW ... how did the Chris Johnson handcuff work out last year? Edited August 28, 2012 by Grits and Shins Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delicious_bass Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 As others have said, probably better off looking elsewhere than tying up 2 roster spots on the Titans running game. That said, if you feel you have to have one, I think Harper is the one to get. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ffgreg Posted August 28, 2012 Share Posted August 28, 2012 I wouldn't draft either of those guys. Goodson in OAK and Williams in ARI on the other hand.. Chances are either Wells and/or McFadden will go down unfortunately. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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