gbpackers Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Ive never seen anything like this in fantasy football. Going into Monday nights Raiders - Chargers game I was up by 13.4pts but he had Philip Rivers. I figured it was over and didnt even bother watching the game. At halftime I noticed Rivers had scored roughly 11pts, and I knew I had lost. I turn the game on with about 7min to go and my opponent is up by .02 pts, so Im praying for a turnover, or somehow a screen that goes for negative yards. With about 45 seconds left in the game Rivers has not completed another pass, and ... he takes a knee and loses 2 yards rushing and I go up by .18pts. I couldnt believe that I had won on a qb taking a knee. Fast forward to this morning. I log on to my fantasy team site, and low and behold a stat change. His rb LeSean McCoy got added a point for a tackle. I lost. Unbelievable. Anyone have a more depressing story? Or better yet, did anyone notice LeSean ACTUALLY record a tackle in that game? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Ive never seen anything like this in fantasy football. Going into Monday nights Raiders - Chargers game I was up by 13.4pts but he had Philip Rivers. I figured it was over and didnt even bother watching the game. At halftime I noticed Rivers had scored roughly 11pts, and I knew I had lost. I turn the game on with about 7min to go and my opponent is up by .02 pts, so Im praying for a turnover, or somehow a screen that goes for negative yards. With about 45 seconds left in the game Rivers has not completed another pass, and ... he takes a knee and loses 2 yards rushing and I go up by .18pts. I couldnt believe that I had won on a qb taking a knee. Fast forward to this morning. I log on to my fantasy team site, and low and behold a stat change. His rb LeSean McCoy got added a point for a tackle. I lost. Unbelievable. Anyone have a more depressing story? Or better yet, did anyone notice LeSean ACTUALLY record a tackle in that game? I'm about certain that everyone alive has a more depressing story than thinking you won a FF game because of something as random as a QB taking a knee only to have that victory taken back because a RB made a tackle. Just going out on a limb here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easy n Dirty Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 I ended up on the positve side of a stat change and am trying to figure out what happened - lost by a point on Monday night in a PPR league when McFadden went off, and when results came out Tuesday morning my team had second highest point total in the league and I had lost. Then today I notice that my team is 1-0, I did win the highest point prize in week 1...and I don't know why because I have no hard copy of how scores were calculated previously. It looks to me like my Lions defense got credited with 2 extra points - did they get credited for a sack after the fact somehow? Is there anyway to check this on the league site? This league is on cbssports, my first experience playing FF on that site. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 I ended up on the positve side of a stat change and am trying to figure out what happened - lost by a point on Monday night in a PPR league when McFadden went off, and when results came out Tuesday morning my team had second highest point total in the league and I had lost. Then today I notice that my team is 1-0, I did win the highest point prize in week 1...and I don't know why because I have no hard copy of how scores were calculated previously. It looks to me like my Lions defense got credited with 2 extra points - did they get credited for a sack after the fact somehow? Is there anyway to check this on the league site? This league is on cbssports, my first experience playing FF on that site. I have the Lions defense on my roster, and just checked seeing that the score of my game did change, looks like an increase of 1 point. It is showing 4 sacks, no turnovers and some points for the points allowed, so it would seem that the number of sacks increased. I play on CBS too, and not sure if there is any way to see what happened. I do know that on Tuesday morning (and yesterday) when looking at stuff it showed I had 69 points, now I have 70. I believe that CBS automatically updates your league with those stat corrections that come out quickly. But I know this change happened more recently (since yesterday afternoon) and I was awarded the point. I do not think the win/loss would change though, having to do it manually. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Agent Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Last year Vick rushed for 100 yards (I think against the Rams) and I got a bonus which put me ahead. He then takes a knee a few times which put him under 100 yards rushing. Lost the bonus and I lost the game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbpackers Posted September 13, 2012 Author Share Posted September 13, 2012 I'm about certain that everyone alive has a more depressing story than thinking you won a FF game because of something as random as a QB taking a knee only to have that victory taken back because a RB made a tackle. Just going out on a limb here. I wasnt saying "Anyone have a more depressing story" as in my story is the most depressing thing to ever happen in fantasy football, I was just simply asking a question. Thanks for your input though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 For Detroit, Cliff Avril got credited with a sack. Here are the week 1 official stat changes from Elias Sports Bureau: The following stat changes were made by the Elias Sports Bureau, and are now available to be applied to your league on MyFantasyLeague.com: Indianapolis Colts at Chicago Bears Cory Redding: from 0 to 1 Tackles. Cory Redding: from 1 to 0 Assists. Pat McAfee: from 1 to 0 Assists. St. Louis Rams at Detroit Lions Sam Bradford: from 3 Rushes for 3 Yards to 2 Rushes for 2 Yards. Sam Bradford: from 3 to 2 Yards. Rams: from 27 Rushes for 78 Yards to 26 Rushes for 77 Yards. Sam Bradford: from 3 to 4 Sacks Against. Cliff Avril: from 0 to 1 Sacks. Cliff Avril: from 2 to 3 QuarterBack Hits. Washington Redskins at New Orleans Saints Robert Griffin III: from 10 to 9 Rushes. Redskins: from 44 to 43 Rushes. Robert Griffin III: from 1 Sack Against for 9 Yards to 2 Sacks Against for 14 Yards. Brodrick Bunkley: from 2 to 3 Assists. Brodrick Bunkley: from 0 Sacks to 0.5 Sacks for 2.5 Sack Yards. Brodrick Bunkley: from 0 to 1 QuarterBack Hits. Corey White: from 1 to 0 Special Teams Tackles. Will Herring: from 1 to 2 Special Teams Tackles. Scott Shanle: from 2 to 1 Tackles. Scott Shanle: from 1 to 2 Assists. Scott Shanle: from 0 Sacks to 0.5 Sacks for 2.5 Sack Yards. Scott Shanle: from 0 to 1 QuarterBack Hits. Saints Defense: from 1 Sack for 9 Yards to 2 Sacks for 14 Yards. Buffalo Bills at New York Jets Stephon Gilmore: from 2 to 3 Tackles. Stephon Gilmore: from 0 to 1 Forced Fumbles. Aaron Williams: from 2 to 1 Tackles. Aaron Williams: from 1 to 0 Forced Fumbles. Seattle Seahawks at Arizona Cardinals Leon Washington: from 2 Punt Returns for 56 yards to 3 Punt Returns for 51 Yards. Brandon Browner: from 2 Punt Returns for -6 Yards to 1 Punt Return for -1 Yard. San Francisco 49ers at Green Bay Packers Tarell Brown: from 1 to 0 Special Teams Tackles. Darcel McBath: from 0 to 1 Special Teams Assists. Tavares Gooden: from 0 to 1 Special Teams Assists. Carolina Panthers at Tampa Bay Buccaneers Sammie Stroughter: from 0 to 1 Punt Returns. Preston Parker: from 1 to 0 Punt Returns. Dwan Edwards: from 5 to 6 Tackles. Dwan Edwards: from 1 Sack for 7 Yards to 2 Sacks for 10 Yards. Dwan Edwards: from 1 to 2 QuarterBack Hits. Greg Hardy: from 6 to 5 Tackles. Greg Hardy: from 1 Sack for 3 Yards to 0 Sacks. Greg Hardy: from 1 to 0 QuarterBack Hits. Mason Foster: from 5 to 6 Tackles. Quincy Black: from 1 to 0 Assists. Brandon McDonald: from 0 to 1 Assists. Dekoda Watson: from 1 to 0 Tackles. Pittsburgh Steelers at Denver Broncos Larry Foote: from 7 to 8 Tackles. Larry Foote: from 0 to 1 Forced Fumbles. Ryan Mundy: from 0 to 1 Assists. Will Allen: from 1 to 0 Assists. San Diego Chargers at Oakland Raiders Philip Wheeler: from 4 to 3 Assists. Philip Wheeler: from 0.5 Sacks for 2.5 Yards to 0 Sacks. Philip Wheeler: from 1 to 0 QuarterBack Hits. Dave Tollefson: from 1 to 2 Assists. Dave Tollefson: from 0 Sacks to 0.5 Sacks for 2.5 Yards. Dave Tollefson: from 0 to 1 QuarterBack Hits. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 (edited) Last year Vick rushed for 100 yards (I think against the Rams) and I got a bonus which put me ahead. He then takes a knee a few times which put him under 100 yards rushing. Lost the bonus and I lost the game. That's one reason why I don't like threshold bonuses and like to just stick to pts per yard. Sure, you would have lost something anyway on him taking a knee, but why should that one yard, between 99 and 100 mean any more than any other yard. If a RB is at 98 yards and is on the one yard line with one play to go, I can assure you that they'll be more than happy with their RB finishing with only 99. Obviously it's impossible to truly mirror the game with FF, but I just see no reason why you should specifically make scoring rules that have nothing to do with it. Edited September 13, 2012 by detlef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 BC, Thanks for that info, was seaching online for it and couldn't find it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 That's one reason why I don't like threshold bonuses and like to just stick to pts per yard. Sure, you would have lost something anyway on him taking a knee, but why should that one yard, between 99 and 100 mean any more than any other yard. If a RB is at 98 yards and is on the one yard line with one play to go, I can assure you that they'll be more than happy with their RB finishing with only 99. Obviously it's impossible to truly mirror the game with FF, but I just see no reason why you should specifically make scoring rules that have nothing to do with it. Also another reason for fractional points, so that a 1-3 yard change for taking a knee doesn't mean losing a whole point. Its too bad these are even scored as negative yardage at all, would be nice to have a way to "take a knee" without it impacting any of the stats (and not just for fantasy purposes). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Double Agent Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 That's one reason why I don't like threshold bonuses and like to just stick to pts per yard. Sure, you would have lost something anyway on him taking a knee, but why should that one yard, between 99 and 100 mean any more than any other yard. If a RB is at 98 yards and is on the one yard line with one play to go, I can assure you that they'll be more than happy with their RB finishing with only 99. Obviously it's impossible to truly mirror the game with FF, but I just see no reason why you should specifically make scoring rules that have nothing to do with it. There's obviously an argument against it just like there's an argument against PPR and more points for longer field goals. But I like it and it's a way to juice up other positions so QBs don't outscore the other positions by 200 points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbpackers Posted September 13, 2012 Author Share Posted September 13, 2012 For Detroit, Cliff Avril got credited with a sack. Here are the week 1 official stat changes from Elias Sports Bureau: The following stat changes were made by the Elias Sports Bureau, and are now available to be applied to your league on MyFantasyLeague.com: Interesting, where is the stat change listed for LeSean McCoy? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CowboysDiehard Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 I'm about certain that everyone alive has a more depressing story than thinking you won a FF game because of something as random as a QB taking a knee only to have that victory taken back because a RB made a tackle. Just going out on a limb here. Lighten up, Francis. This is a fantasy football website, not Dear Abby. The ONLY thing that matters here is whether you won or lost, got shiatty advice from DMD, or being able to call someone a trader joe for rooting for their fantasy team over their favorite team. C'MON MAN!!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Waiver Hounds Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 This seems weird - is this an IDP league? And if so how in the wide wide world of sports do you get a tackle from an RB? And if it isn't IDP how in the wide wide world of sports do you get a tackle from an RB? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gbpackers Posted September 13, 2012 Author Share Posted September 13, 2012 This seems weird - is this an IDP league? And if so how in the wide wide world of sports do you get a tackle from an RB? And if it isn't IDP how in the wide wide world of sports do you get a tackle from an RB? Yeah we have 1 IDP per team. But I wasnt aware that rbs/wrs could get a point for a tackle. Pretty stupid. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Yeah we have 1 IDP per team. But I wasnt aware that rbs/wrs could get a point for a tackle. Pretty stupid. Was this part of your scoring, spelled out that offensive players get points for tackles? Maybe the commish set it up that way because it was easy (all players score the same, copying settings, etc.) I've heard many people talk about knowing your rules, but those rules should be known, then scoring and other league setting done to reflect that. Not have them be at the whim of the commissioner or fantasy website settings. When I read the post I thought the same thing, how/why does a RB get points for tackles? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelsosi Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 You lost a game that you deserved to lose. Here's a kleenex. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Country Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Interesting, where is the stat change listed for LeSean McCoy? There was no official stat change for McCoy. Suggest you check other potential causes for this, such as a change in your league scoring settings giving credit for defensive stats ot offensive players, etc. Was this part of your scoring, spelled out that offensive players get points for tackles? Maybe the commish set it up that way because it was easy (all players score the same, copying settings, etc.) I've heard many people talk about knowing your rules, but those rules should be known, then scoring and other league setting done to reflect that. Not have them be at the whim of the commissioner or fantasy website settings. When I read the post I thought the same thing, how/why does a RB get points for tackles? In an IDP league, I would expect ALL players to get credit for tackles/defensive plays, just as I would expect defensive players to get credit for performing an offensive play. In this case, I would assume that the McCoy tackle came on a turnover (either fumble or INT). Non-IDP I would not have the same expectation for application of scoring rules. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 I'm pretty sure that a QB taking a knee has been the demise of a pretty large portion of FF players. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stethant Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 I have the Lions defense on my roster, and just checked seeing that the score of my game did change, looks like an increase of 1 point. It is showing 4 sacks, no turnovers and some points for the points allowed, so it would seem that the number of sacks increased. The very last play of the game was a sack that was not initially credited. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTSuper7 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Vick threw enough INTs that a McCoy tackle wouldn't be that surprising. And I once lost by .05 points when McNabb took a sack on a 3rd down play giving my opponent's Akers exactly the required FG distance it would take to beat me. So yeah, we all got bad beat stories. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricrelish Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 I'm pretty sure that a QB taking a knee has been the demise of a pretty large portion of FF players. Henry Muto just lost a game last weekend when Rivers took a knee. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TNtitans Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 A couple years ago the Philly at Minn game that was delayed due to the snow job in the dome was week 16, the fantasy superbowl. I was up by a few points going into the final Philly possession with my qb Mike Vick. I can't remember if they were behind but he got sacked and fumbled the ball on just about the last play. 68-68 tie in the championship and I lost on the tie-breaker. It was a difference of $800. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scorcher Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 A couple years ago the Philly at Minn game that was delayed due to the snow job in the dome was week 16, the fantasy superbowl. I was up by a few points going into the final Philly possession with my qb Mike Vick. I can't remember if they were behind but he got sacked and fumbled the ball on just about the last play. 68-68 tie in the championship and I lost on the tie-breaker. It was a difference of $800. After 21 posts the OP gets a legitimate answer! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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