detlef Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 That's not really my point at all (and you didn't bold the "or exploit it" part), and what you're saying kind of plays into what I'm saying. They're not even really targeting Fitz much from what I've seen, so it seems they're trying to establish other threats. It has little to do with Fitz's production that they don't have other threats that they need to establish to exploit it if they're gonna roll all the coverage his way. That may not "open things up" for Fitz if they do, but nonetheless, I don't think he's going to be so sparsely targeted to put up a 1 catch statline all year. I understand you qualified your point, but you did lead with it and, given the number of people who defended the notion that complimentary targets are a stat-asset to a truly elite WR1, I saw this heading there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunning Runt Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Det, you do know that once Floyd gets going, that's gonna open things up for Fitz right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e5volcano Posted September 17, 2012 Author Share Posted September 17, 2012 Well hopefully Floyd gets going soon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 (edited) Det, you do know that once Floyd gets going, that's gonna open things up for Fitz right? Explain why this actually makes sense. First, I'll explain why it doesn't: There is no WR so bad that they don't warrant any attention at all. This isn't like hoops where you can just leave a big man who can't shoot entirely unguarded if he's at the 3 pt line. So, whomever Floyd replaced was drawing a defender. Floyd would have to attract another defender beyond the one that whomever he replaced to open anything up for anyone. Now, say Floyd does great. So great that teams decide to have someone shadow him beyond the guy who is guarding him. Wanna guess at the last place they're going to pull that guy from? Yep, Fitz. Because, until Floyd replaces Fitz as the single most dangeroud guy on the field, Ds are going to worry about Fitz, and then worry about Floyd in that order. Now, like I said above, that might mean they start running more nickle or dime packages because now they have 2 WRs worth worrying about, but that just means that the running game or underneath routes for the TE opens up. Not Fitz's side of the field. Now, perhaps Floyd could put up very nice numbers because Ds will refuse to abandon the strategy of making someone besides Fitz beat them, but that's another story entirely. Edited September 17, 2012 by detlef Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cunning Runt Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Explain why this actually makes sense. First, I'll explain why it doesn't: There is no WR so bad that they don't warrant any attention at all. This isn't like hoops where you can just leave a big man who can't shoot entirely unguarded if he's at the 3 pt line. So, whomever Floyd replaced was drawing a defender. Floyd would have to attract another defender beyond the one that whomever he replaced to open anything up for anyone. Now, say Floyd does great. So great that teams decide to have someone shadow him beyond the guy who is guarding him. Wanna guess at the last place they're going to pull that guy from? Yep, Fitz. Because, until Floyd replaces Fitz as the single most dangeroud guy on the field, Ds are going to worry about Fitz, and then worry about Floyd in that order. Now, like I said above, that might mean they start running more nickle or dime packages because now they have 2 WRs worth worrying about, but that just means that the running game or underneath routes for the TE opens up. Not Fitz's side of the field. Now, perhaps Floyd could put up very nice numbers because Ds will refuse to abandon the strategy of making someone besides Fitz beat them, but that's another story entirely. I was kidding. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I would trade him for a bag of BBQ Fritos right now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I would trade him for a bag of BBQ Fritos right now. Yeah, but where would somebody buy them? They've been gone from the shelves in stores everywhere for years. I complained to the Frito Lay people stocking the shelves, and they tried to point me to those Honey BBQ twists, of the Chili Fritos, or whatever nasty flavors those are. I guess they just weren't popular anymore. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SEC=UGA Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Yeah, but where would somebody buy them? Here Yer welcome. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I would trade him for a bag of BBQ Fritos right now. i have half a bag, but i'll give you hillis if you throw in the rest of your slurpy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Here Yer welcome. Holy CHIPS AHOY!, $5 or $7 a bag, must be a sellers market. I like them, but not that much. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
White lightning Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I think Kolb will be at the helm for at least one more week. As a result, I'm banking on Fitz putting up below average numbers, Fitz's owner panicing, and me swooping in for a buy-low trade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 I was kidding. My bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
detlef Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Yeah, but where would somebody buy them? They've been gone from the shelves in stores everywhere for years. I complained to the Frito Lay people stocking the shelves, and they tried to point me to those Honey BBQ twists, of the Chili Fritos, or whatever nasty flavors those are. I guess they just weren't popular anymore. Dude, the chili fritos are the bomb. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
G.K.Trey Posted September 17, 2012 Share Posted September 17, 2012 Seems obvious to me that the way to beat Arizona is to take Fitz out of the game ... I think the exact opposite is true , as Arizona is 2-0. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e5volcano Posted September 18, 2012 Author Share Posted September 18, 2012 Fitzgerald v Demaryius Thomas, who will have the better season? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Fitzgerald v Demaryius Thomas, who will have the better season? The one that scores the most points Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djgb13 Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 The one that scores the most points And right now Thomas is blowing him out the water even with Manning throwing interception after interception Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
e5volcano Posted September 18, 2012 Author Share Posted September 18, 2012 Thomas in this game has scored more points than Fitz combined games :p Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunday Couch Potatoe Posted September 18, 2012 Share Posted September 18, 2012 Dude, the chili fritos are the bomb. Agreed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PatsFanCT Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Seems obvious to me that the way to beat Arizona is to take Fitz out of the game ... And yet, it doesn't. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asianandy87 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 I'm pretty worried... waste of a 2nd round pick right now.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Djgb13 Posted September 19, 2012 Share Posted September 19, 2012 Hopefully fitzgerald will turn it around. That being said he needs the ball to at least be thrown to him. However if teams keep double covering him and teams keep losing then they might start backing off fitz. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripleshot Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 He's been double-teamed his whole career and still put up the career numbers he has. As with last year, he did much better with Skelton under center. Unless Kolb somehow manages to keep the Cardinals winning(and in reality it's their defense winning them games, not Kolb), methinks it's Skelton's job again as soon as he is healthy enough. Then you will see Fitz production returning more to normal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChampSampson Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 I'm proudly starting Fitz. Good WRs come in streaks, 4games, 6games, 10games...? It'll come when I need it most. (when Spiller and Bush come back to life) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Just think ... you could have drafted CJ2K first and Fitz second ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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