Patriots Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Or did he just run into a tough defense? I have never seen a QB fumble that many times game after game. Why can't he just hold onto the ball. And how can you have QB that athletic and not get the job done from the 1? In fact it turns into 6 the other way. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bier Meister Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 did you ever watch dave krieg? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Croe Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Vick is frustrating - I owned him last year and once before he got arrested - he always plays like this and a few weeks he'll have some stand outs especially if he runs for 80 yards and/or scores a TD but he is a turnover machine. He was on my do not draft list this year Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 The Eagles, moreso than any team I can recollect, have the tendancy to put up 3-4 bad games, 1-2 of which are absolute train-wrecks like this one, yet bounce back with some serious high-caliber football. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LbNiners Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 his bad play is also killing McCoy production , how you have a back like McCoy and let Vick throw it a bunch of time is beyond me. Get a page out of Hou/Balt O and check down to McCoy stupid Vick! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whomper Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 He is running for his life and getting hammered almost every play from all angles. That D absolutely manhandled Philly yesterday. Im sure you can hang some of this on Vick but he has zero time to throw . If not for his mobility he would be on IR right now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Papajohn Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I would say yes he is that bad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Vick was the 12th highest scoring QB in my league last year. 10 Team League. That's backup material Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I have a hard time envisioning him being the starting qb next year, and it may be sooner - whether via injury or just performance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh 0ne Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Thoroughly enjoyable watching him get his ass kicked on almost every play. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RJV Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I am playing Luck, after this week due to his bye, till Vick shows something Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Thoroughly enjoyable watching him get his ass kicked on almost every play. did'nt mind it myself Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
half_hennessy Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 He is running for his life almost every play he had no chance yesterday and from what I have read it had basically been the same the other 2 weeks as well. Is he playing no not at all but is it all his fault no the Eagles oline is atrocious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Pimp Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 I haven't watched Philly at all. How has McCoy been doing this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moss6 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Or did he just run into a tough defense? I have never seen a QB fumble that many times game after game. Why can't he just hold onto the ball. And how can you have QB that athletic and not get the job done from the 1? In fact it turns into 6 the other way. :daunte-culpepper: small hands :daunte-culpepper: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thews40 Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 In 6 point PA TD leagues Vick should be around 11th with Brady about 12th. In 4 point PA TD leagues, Vick should be about 8th and Brady 15th. When you bench him, he goes off. When you start him, sometimes he puts up a dud. This is the first year I've had Vick on any team and my expectations are middle of the road... I'll take the good weeks along with the bad ones. As far as being "that bad" I'd rather have Vick now more than Cam Newton or Stafford. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jackass Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 In 6 point PA TD leagues Vick should be around 11th with Brady about 12th. In 4 point PA TD leagues, Vick should be about 8th and Brady 15th. When you bench him, he goes off. When you start him, sometimes he puts up a dud. This is the first year I've had Vick on any team and my expectations are middle of the road... I'll take the good weeks along with the bad ones. As far as being "that bad" I'd rather have Vick now more than Cam Newton or Stafford. Sure he still can be a decent fantasy option. Not sure that's the focus of this thread though.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zooty Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Thoroughly enjoyable watching him get his ass kicked on almost every play. +1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SheikYerbuti Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 For a guy with a 1000 yard rushing season and a 900 yard rushing season from the QB position, he doesn't look at all elusive or mobile. The O line is a big part of why he's getting hit so early, but he's not showing a fraction of the speed he used to. I'm thoroughly looking forward to watching JPP lay him out all night next Sunday. He must be licking his chops. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABearWithFurniture Posted September 24, 2012 Share Posted September 24, 2012 Had to fly up to Philadelphia for a business trip last week and of course, leaving Austin, layover in Dallas there's burnt Orange everywhere and people wearing Cowboys hats, spamshirts, t-shirts. Got to the Philly airport and didn't see one person wearing Green or Eagles gear. All week long never saw one person wearing Eagles stuff which I found really strange. The last night I was in town I went into a pub and ordered some food...when I was paying the bill the waitress says 'you're not from around here are you'. I say no, I'm from Austin and I'm thinking, ah here it comes. But instead, her eyes light up and she asks ' are you a Cowboys fan?...I love the Cowboys' and starts talking about how she grew up with them, etc, etc... Anyways, she ended up giving me some of the pub gear and I had to promise to mail her a Dallas t-shirt when I got back... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuckDuckGoose Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Vick is not that bad its just the team is bad. The O-Line is not buying him time so he has to run. He stated he wanted to be a pocket passer this year but if the O-Line can't block for crap, you ain't about to be a pocket anything. Add in the fact he has never been really an accurate passer especially on the run and he likes to run with the ball in one hand,hence the reason why you saw turnovers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stethant Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 As far as being "that bad" I'd rather have Vick now more than Cam Newton or Stafford. I agree with this, although it ain't saying so much in 2012... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millerx Posted September 25, 2012 Share Posted September 25, 2012 Yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TimC Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 Thoroughly enjoyable watching him get his ass kicked on almost every play. Yep. Vick sucks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
awahl63 Posted September 26, 2012 Share Posted September 26, 2012 (edited) His line is straight up garbage. His LT is 3rd or 4th string. That and his decision making skills have always been sub-par. It's shaping up to be a long year; however, I can't tell if the switch to Foles helps or hurts McCoy's value. At some point Andy Reid will pull his head out of his arse and feed McCoy the rock. Edited September 26, 2012 by awahl63 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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