electricrelish Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 I noticed that none of my MFL or CBS Sportsline leagues counted the TD that Pierre Garcon scored in MFL. Is it because the scoring doesn't count recovered fumbles for offensive players? I would think the player should get those points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Is it set to allow for offensive fumble recovery TDs? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montster Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 I have Garcon in a CBS league. I'm currently down by 2 with the Cowboys defense tomorrow, and my opponent is done, so hopefully this won't matter, but the TD didn't show up on Garcon's stats. I emailed the commissioner, who said, "We go by however CBS scores it," so I don't have much hope. I don't see how a TD can be scored and have it not be credited to any player in our league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 It wasn't a rushing, passing, or receiving TD - so if those are the only TDs that O players can score in your league then it wouldn't count. You need to have scoring that allows an O player to score for a fumble return for a TD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricrelish Posted October 1, 2012 Author Share Posted October 1, 2012 Oy. Obviously, an oversight. I can't imagine a league said, you know it's a bad idea to let an offensive player score this way. I'm sure it's just a scenario they didn't think of. Horrible way to lose. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satelliteoflovegm Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 One of your MFL leagues did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Oy. Obviously, an oversight. I can't imagine a league said, you know it's a bad idea to let an offensive player score this way. I'm sure it's just a scenario they didn't think of. Horrible way to lose. It's scored in the rules of all the leagues I play in. Odd IMO that a FF league wouldn't consider the different ways TDs are scored. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricrelish Posted October 1, 2012 Author Share Posted October 1, 2012 It's scored in the rules of all the leagues I play in. Odd IMO that a FF league wouldn't consider the different ways TDs are scored. It's not odd to me. In my BoTH leagues, I can't get members to even vote, so you can forget about thinking everyone actually reads every rule or even helps proofread new rules for a new league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricrelish Posted October 1, 2012 Author Share Posted October 1, 2012 One of your MFL leagues did. Yep. One did. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 Sounds like another one of those fumble recovery TD, a scoring category many leagues do not include (whether intentionally or otherwise). There was a similar play last week I think, with Antonio Brown. He recovered the ball in the end zone after dropping it. In that caes the NFL credits the play as a continuation of the initial play, resulting in both a passing and receiving TD of the total yards on that play. When I looked into this last week on our CBS site I found the scoring info under Help-Glossary, where it showed that we do not include the category "offensive fumble recovery TD", also that less than 5% of CBS leagues use that, and that it is not scored live. Looking at stats today, Garcon does not have those 6 points in our league. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whiskey Pimp Posted October 1, 2012 Share Posted October 1, 2012 It wasn't scored in any of our leagues but none of the Garcon owners had him in their lineups anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
montster Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 I have Garcon in a CBS league. I'm currently down by 2 with the Cowboys defense tomorrow, and my opponent is done, so hopefully this won't matter, but the TD didn't show up on Garcon's stats. I emailed the commissioner, who said, "We go by however CBS scores it," so I don't have much hope. I don't see how a TD can be scored and have it not be credited to any player in our league. I just refreshed the live scoring and Garcon's TD showed up in his stat line as "OFRTD." So either it took a while to show up for some reason, or the commissioner adjusted the settings. I don't know, and I'm not asking. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricrelish Posted October 2, 2012 Author Share Posted October 2, 2012 (edited) My BoTH commissioner said maybe we can add offensive fumble recoveries for TD's next year. Maybe. http://forums.thehud...d/#entry3739415 Any chance you guys can tell him how much you disagree and how it should be counted for this year? Edited October 2, 2012 by electricrelish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 I just refreshed the live scoring and Garcon's TD showed up in his stat line as "OFRTD." So either it took a while to show up for some reason, or the commissioner adjusted the settings. I don't know, and I'm not asking. Yeah, as I mentioned yesterday CBS scoring did indicate this was not scored live (go to Help Glossary and look for OFRTD). My BoTH commissioner said maybe we can add offensive fumble recoveries for TD's next year. Maybe. http://forums.thehud...d/#entry3739415 Any chance you guys can tell him how much you disagree and how it should be counted for this year? Changing rules mid season, sure we'll all in favor of that... I told my co-commish we should consider including them next year, or at least specifically state that we do not include them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelsosi Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Horrible way to lose. Small consolotation, but its not even clear if it should have been a fumble or not. It's tough to tell whether RG3 broke the plane before he lost the ball, but since Garcon recovered for the TD anyway it was moot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Anybody remember/know how this kind of play is scored player A runs with the ball, then fumbles at the 5 yard line player B (same team) pick up the ball and runs into the end zone is that a rushing TD? or still an OFRTD (offensive fumble recovery TD) Curious because if player A picks the ball up, its scored as a continuation of the original play, and if that was a pass its all counts as passing/receiving yards (and pass/rec TD). (The Antonio Brown TD a couple weeks ago.) But when another player recovers in the end zone it is OFRTD, and you need to specifically account for those points in your league for the player to get them. I think this is why people think the player should get the TD in all cases, they scored a TD, whether they originally were rushing/receiving the ball should't matter (especially since they can fumble and recover and get those points). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Anybody remember/know how this kind of play is scored player A runs with the ball, then fumbles at the 5 yard line player B (same team) pick up the ball and runs into the end zone is that a rushing TD? or still an OFRTD (offensive fumble recovery TD) Curious because if player A picks the ball up, its scored as a continuation of the original play, and if that was a pass its all counts as passing/receiving yards (and pass/rec TD). (The Antonio Brown TD a couple weeks ago.) But when another player recovers in the end zone it is OFRTD, and you need to specifically account for those points in your league for the player to get them. I think this is why people think the player should get the TD in all cases, they scored a TD, whether they originally were rushing/receiving the ball should't matter (especially since they can fumble and recover and get those points). Fumble recovery TD Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brg88tx Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 apparently yahoo leagues gives credit for it and i lost by 2 points because of this bs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Fumble recovery TD So scored the same whether recovery is in the end zone or not. Wonder why a player recovering his own fumble is scored differently. Or am I wrong about that? (The Antonio Brown play, I thought Keg even gave us some inside NFL info that confirmed it was a TD pass/catch and not fumble recovery.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 apparently yahoo leagues gives credit for it and i lost by 2 points because of this bs That may not be all Yahoo leagues, like many sites it may be up to leagues to decide if this counts as a scoring category for their players (just like yards, catches, turnovers, etc.) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brg88tx Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 That may not be all Yahoo leagues, like many sites it may be up to leagues to decide if this counts as a scoring category for their players (just like yards, catches, turnovers, etc.) the actual wording in the scoring section of my yahoo league gives 6 points for "Offensive Fumble Return TD". this might be picky, but i just emailed yahoo to dispute this. garcon merely "recovered" the offensive fumble and did not "return" it. points should not be given unless specifically stated for "recovered" offensive tds. i'll let yall know what they say. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 the actual wording in the scoring section of my yahoo league gives 6 points for "Offensive Fumble Return TD". this might be picky, but i just emailed yahoo to dispute this. garcon merely "recovered" the offensive fumble and did not "return" it. points should not be given unless specifically stated for "recovered" offensive tds. i'll let yall know what they say. Does it actually spell out RETURN? On CBS it shows a stat category and description like this OFRTD Offensive Fumble Recovery TD I think they are all considered recovery/return when an offensive player recovers another players fumble and scores a TD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brg88tx Posted October 2, 2012 Share Posted October 2, 2012 Does it actually spell out RETURN? On CBS it shows a stat category and description like this OFRTD Offensive Fumble Recovery TD I think they are all considered recovery/return when an offensive player recovers another players fumble and scores a TD. yes the wording is "Offensive Fumble Return TD" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snoop2 Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 I have Garcon in a CBS league. I'm currently down by 2 with the Cowboys defense tomorrow, and my opponent is done, so hopefully this won't matter, but the TD didn't show up on Garcon's stats. I emailed the commissioner, who said, "We go by however CBS scores it," so I don't have much hope. I don't see how a TD can be scored and have it not be credited to any player in our league. Your commish should adjust your score, that is the dumbest response I have ever heard from a commish. Get your points. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelsosi Posted October 3, 2012 Share Posted October 3, 2012 You wouldn't be saying that if you we're on the other side of the matchup Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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