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Danario Alexander: WR2 the rest of the way?


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#51 Crazysight

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 02:13 AM

View PostBronco Billy, on 15 November 2012 - 09:30 AM, said:

Whoa.  A little over the top on the hyperbole for a WR, who while showed he was talented at MO, also had only 1 great year in a spread O loaded with guys who performed very well at the college level in a conference very weak against the pass, don't you think?

Next Megatron?  at 6'-5" and 215 lbs dripping wet?  Let's see if he's a suitable replacement for VJax first, huh?

Well I tend to look at measurables first and foremost as a guage for a player's potential, and his measurables when healthy have always been superb, albeit probably a bit shy of megatron.  College performance likewise tends to only show NFL potential as well, there's far from any guarantee that a player will or will not be NFL ready based on their college efforts or who they faced in  college.  Small school guys like Alfred Morris and Daryl Richardson are excellent examples of that this year.  But DX certainly flashed the potential at MO regardless of the meta analysis of his play there.

So, does he look suitable to you yet?

Edited by Crazysight, 22 November 2012 - 02:16 AM.


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Posted 22 November 2012 - 08:08 AM

View PostCrazysight, on 22 November 2012 - 02:13 AM, said:



So, does he look suitable to you yet?

He's looked great in managing to stay healthy for the past 3 games.  He was a key cog in a W I had over the 1st place opponent from the opposite conference last week.

But he hasn't drawn WR1 coverage yet, much less regular double teams.  He was beating Tony Carter in single coverage vs DEN.  And I'm certainly not prepared to favorably compare him pound-for-pound with the best WR in the NFL right now like you have.

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Posted 22 November 2012 - 08:16 PM

View PostBronco Billy, on 22 November 2012 - 08:08 AM, said:

He's looked great in managing to stay healthy for the past 3 games.  He was a key cog in a W I had over the 1st place opponent from the opposite conference last week.

But he hasn't drawn WR1 coverage yet, much less regular double teams.  He was beating Tony Carter in single coverage vs DEN.  And I'm certainly not prepared to favorably compare him pound-for-pound with the best WR in the NFL right now like you have.

I'm with you. I'll ride a hot waiver wire pickup until he cools off, but I prefer to see a player play well for a majority of a season before I start annointing him a WR/RB 1. Let's just say I elarned a few things from drafting Antonio Brown in 3 leagues based on the second half of last season. :sad:

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 05:35 PM

View PostCrazysight, on 15 November 2012 - 09:12 AM, said:

DX is the PERFECT fit for that offense IF he can finally stay healthy.  So far, so good.  Rivers has always loved throwing to big receivers, and a healthy DX is more athletic than any big receiver that Rivers has ever had.  I can't reiterate that enough.  DX was a bonafide stud in college before his devastating knee injury.  He could have been the next Calvin Johnson.  Problem is he's never been able to stay healthy up until this point, and many have assumed due to the severity of his injury that he'd never be again.  Only time will tell, but IF he can stay healthy his latest production will not be an abberation, but will rather be indicative of further things to come.

Well you've taken what I initially said out of context some as I never said he's going to be the next calvin johnson, only said here that prior to his devastating injury in college (which cut his potential short as he was just starting to realize it) he could have been the next calvin johnson.  He certainly looks like more than a suitable replacement for jackson though, provided that he continues to stay healthy.

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Posted 23 November 2012 - 06:18 PM

Just so I understand this.  We're discussing whether or not he's the next Megatron?  Really?

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 12:15 AM

View Postdetlef, on 23 November 2012 - 06:18 PM, said:

Just so I understand this.  We're discussing whether or not he's the next Megatron?  Really?

Only if you consider CJ a WR2, since the OP asks whether he will be a credible WR2 going forward.  I did take exception to the reference that Alexander could have been the next CJ.  He doesn't have enough game or the physical domination, and didn't in college either.  I also think it remains to be seen if Alexander is a credible replacement for VJax for the reasons I stated above.

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Posted 24 November 2012 - 07:52 AM

I was going off the referenced post at the top if page 2.  Though, oddly, I can't find the original post.

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 03:47 PM

Kid's got skills

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 05:42 PM

View Postnelsosi, on 09 December 2012 - 03:47 PM, said:

Kid's got skills

Always had 'em. It was just a question of health. Hope he stays healthy.

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 10:15 PM

Sat him today, but I had better matchups sitting the bench along with him, even at WR. I'm still in my game, but facing a tough hill to climb with him having Foster.

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Posted 09 December 2012 - 10:25 PM

I'm officially drinking the Kool-Aid

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Posted 10 December 2012 - 03:55 AM

"And I'm certainly not prepared to favorably compare him pound-for-pound with the best WR in the NFL right now like you have."

"Just so I understand this.  We're discussing whether or not he's the next Megatron?  Really?"



Yeah, some of you people need to take a class in READING COMPREHENSION, that's been made painfully obvious to me over the years. Last time I'm going to try to break down my prior statement for you to understand.  Firstly, we're not discussing whether he is the next megatron, or whether he is at that level now or ever will be, what I very clearly stated was that he had such potential prior to his injury IN COLLEGE, not what we've seen since that time, including now.  That original post is from the bottom of page one.  Secondly, to say that he didn't have enough game THEN is completely irrelevant, as he was a developing player then, despite having skill, same as all college athletes are still developing and have not yet met their full POTENTIAL.  His potential to continue developing was derailed because of his injury however, and I'm not convinced that he's even yet met his full potential or peak ability.  I'm also not even convinced that his injury hasn't in some way hindered his athleticism to this day, or that he will ever be quite as athletic as he would have otherwise been.  Thirdly, if you look up the combine stats, you see he's every bit comparable to Megatron as far as his athleticism is concerned, the only thing he lacks is Megatrons bulk. I don't give a damn about his bulk, nor did I say anything about him having the bulk  of CJ.  Production and ability to dominate is all that matters..  If bulk matters that much than I guess you should be talking up Jared Cook's potential to be the next Megatron, since his combine stats are also certainly close enough to those of Megatron, and given his verticle and much longer wingspan than Megatron his reach when leaping is actually an inch higher than CJs, in addition to having more bulk than CJ in the first place.  But of course you aren't doing that, nor did you even know any of that to begin with.  Furthermore you should ignore the production of guys like Jerry Rice and Randy Moss when they were in their  prime, since they didn't have the size of Megatron either.  Of course you'll mention the effect of having a great qb throwing such  players the ball, but Daunte Culpepper was hardly great, and Moss was quite the dominant force during those years nonetheless.

Its pretty easy to say "hey this guy isn't going to be one of the best ever to play the game" though when speaking of potential though, isn't it?  You'll be right probably 95% of the time, any ball-less dumbass can look at a dog in a race that isn't favored to win and state the obvious.  You no doubt would have said the same even more emphatically about Jerry Rice back when he came out of college.

And yes he continues to show that he's quite the replacement for VJax, and is doing so week after week.  In my league he has scored 95 fantasy points in the last 5 weeks, which is more than VJax has scored IN ANY 5 game stretch in his entire career.   As I stated prior, so long as he can remain healthy, expect him to continue to do so.  He's the only thing going right about that offense right now.

Edited by Crazysight, 10 December 2012 - 04:08 AM.


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Posted 10 December 2012 - 04:20 AM

In fact, with the way that he's been producing I don't really even need to back up my prior statement, his play is doing all the talking I need all by itself.  If his production from the past 5 weeks was strung out over a 16 game schedule, he would have a point total of 302.4 points.  Calvin Johnson last year scored 311 points in my league last year, which was the best statistical year of his career to date.  But then again, I never even said he is comparable to Megatron in the first place, did I?

Edited by Crazysight, 10 December 2012 - 04:23 AM.


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Posted 16 December 2012 - 07:35 PM

what happened to this pos today?

sounds about right with my other receivers demaryius and josh gordon.....fml

Edited by brg88tx, 16 December 2012 - 07:36 PM.


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Posted 16 December 2012 - 07:37 PM

May have single handedly ended a number of fantasy seasons, including mine

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 07:41 PM

View Postbrg88tx, on 16 December 2012 - 07:35 PM, said:

what happened to this pos today?

sounds about right with my other receivers demaryius and josh gordon.....fml

View PostJoebirds55, on 16 December 2012 - 07:37 PM, said:

May have single handedly ended a number of fantasy seasons, including mine
Forgot about the previous weeks, huh.

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 07:45 PM

I lost last week in a game that didn't affect my seed...it wasn't like he had my team on his back doe

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Posted 16 December 2012 - 09:10 PM

I am somehow going to survive a semifinal in which I started him AND Roddy White AND Stafford.  That's a holiday miracle.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 12:19 AM

Hope he dies in a fracking fire.  DA sux azz.

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 12:31 AM

View PostCrazysight, on 10 December 2012 - 04:20 AM, said:

In fact, with the way that he's been producing I don't really even need to back up my prior statement, his play is doing all the talking I need all by itself.  If his production from the past 5 weeks was strung out over a 16 game schedule, he would have a point total of 302.4 points.  Calvin Johnson last year scored 311 points in my league last year, which was the best statistical year of his career to date.  But then again, I never even said he is comparable to Megatron in the first place, did I?

LOLWUT

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 12:34 AM

I started him and won!  :fool:

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Posted 17 December 2012 - 08:17 AM

View PostCrazysight, on 10 December 2012 - 04:20 AM, said:

In fact, with the way that he's been producing I don't really even need to back up my prior statement, his play is doing all the talking I need all by itself.  If his production from the past 5 weeks was strung out over a 16 game schedule, he would have a point total of 302.4 points.  Calvin Johnson last year scored 311 points in my league last year, which was the best statistical year of his career to date.  But then again, I never even said he is comparable to Megatron in the first place, did I?

I just want to be sure that you are still definitely not comparing Alexander to Calvin Johnson.




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