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[Cowboyz1]

i_am_the_swammi, on 03 December 2012 - 10:32 AM, said:

You guys beat a team of backups, at home, by 5 points, to move to 6-6.

Congrats!!!

Yes and that makes twice, with our defensive backups, escorting The Superbowl Bound, Most Talented team in the league, to 3-8. We may win a contest of inconsistent teams but your Eagles take the word Disaster to a whole different level. Not sure I would blame Reid so much as the players. No excuse for them to be this bad on defense really.

[i_am_the_swammi]

Cowboyz1, on 03 December 2012 - 11:02 AM, said:

Yes and that makes twice, with our defensive backups, escorting The Superbowl Bound, Most Talented team in the league, to 3-8. We may win a contest of inconsistent teams but your Eagles take the word Disaster to a whole different level. Not sure I would blame Reid so much as the players. No excuse for them to be this bad on defense really.

What you fail to see is that we are in a better spot at 3-9 than you are at 6-6....at least we know we have major changes from top to bottom ahead of us.

You are still blindly of the opinion that your team is relevant, and can compete for a championship with Jones leading you off the field, and Romo on it. But hey, you keep strumming to the beat of winning games over terrible teams by the score of 38-33.

[Cowboyz1]

i_am_the_swammi, on 03 December 2012 - 11:07 AM, said:

What you fail to see is that we are in a better spot at 3-9 than you are at 6-6....at least we know we have major changes from top to bottom ahead of us.

You are still blindly of the opinion that your team is relevant, and can compete for a championship with Jones leading you off the field, and Romo on it. But hey, you keep strumming to the beat of winning games over terrible teams by the score of 38-33.

I will tell you this. Romo is hardly our problem. In Fact, he's a stud. 10-10 in the second half no picks and 3 TD's, 150 passer rating.  If you look at his stats, the guy just became the Cowboys leader in just about every category. TD passes, Completions, Consecutive games with this and that. The only thing he doesn't have is a ring and that is hardly his fault. He has done all that with a horrible O line, No running game most of the time and very little defensive help. I agree though JJ is a big problem and if he doesn't draft O line and D line this year I'll be upset.

Fact is, if you gave Slip the time that Manning, Brees, or Brady has in the pocket he would put up huge numbers. Funny thing is, even without the time he puts up solid numbers, more picks then he or I would like but when you have little time and passing 50 times a game with no running game, picks are going to happen.

I have written off this year because Lee, Carter and our O and D lines are done. However, the Eagles have no excuse to be this bad. By all accounts (even the talking heads) they have a star at every position. So what changes need to be made other then DC and HC? Better position at 3-9 with the players you have? You go on believing that if you want to but 3-9 is 3-9 with a team that was picked to go to the superbowl!

Edited by Cowboyz1, 03 December 2012 - 11:57 AM.

[keggerz]

Cowboyz1, on 03 December 2012 - 11:47 AM, said:

I will tell you this. Romo is hardly our problem. In Fact, he's a stud. 10-10 in the second half no picks and 3 TD's, 150 passer rating.  If you look at his stats, the guy just became the Cowboys leader in just about every category. TD passes, Completions, Consecutive games with this and that. The only thing he doesn't have is a ring and that is hardly his fault. He has done all that with a horrible O line, No running game most of the time and very little defensive help. I agree though JJ is a big problem and if he doesn't draft O line and D line this year I'll be upset.

I have written off this year because Lee, Carter and our O and D lines are done. However, the Eagles have no excuse to be this bad. By all accounts (even the talking heads) they have a star at every position. So what changes need to be made other then DC and HC?

that has to be one of the most uniformed homer driven responses I have ever seen.

The Eagles have 4 starters on O that were starters in week 1: Maclin, Celek, Dunlap(and he wasn't supposed to be but is due to injury) and Mathis
Their secondary is horrid, if you can't cover anyone it doesn't help the pass rush...but the O has done the D no favors
at all this year, none.

Edited by keggerz, 03 December 2012 - 11:58 AM.

[HowboutthemCowboys]

i_am_the_swammi, on 03 December 2012 - 11:07 AM, said:

What you fail to see is that we are in a better spot at 3-9 than you are at 6-6....at least we know we have major changes from top to bottom ahead of us.

what a joke.

so what's that mean? Philly's gonna clean house after the season....cut a bunch of underperforming players and start over ? Gimme a break dude.  Neither one of these teams is very good but yeah, philly sucks ass right now.

3-9 and swept by Dallas  

[HowboutthemCowboys]

keggerz, on 03 December 2012 - 11:57 AM, said:

that has to be one of the most uniformed homer driven responses I have ever seen.

The Eagles have 4 starters on O that were starters in week 1: Maclin, Celek, Dunlap(and he wasn't supposed to be but is due to injury) and Mathis
Their secondary is horrid, if you can't cover anyone it doesn't help the pass rush...but the O has done the D no favors
at all this year, none.

Both of these teams are missing a bunch of players, no doubt

[stevegrab]

HowboutthemCowboys, on 03 December 2012 - 12:02 PM, said:

Both of these teams are missing a bunch of players, no doubt

Yes, but Cowboyz1 said this
"I have written off this year because Lee, Carter and our O and D lines are done. However, the Eagles have no excuse to be this bad."

Making it sound as if the Cowboys have an excuse because of injuries but the Eagles don't.

[Cowboyz1]

stevegrab, on 03 December 2012 - 02:42 PM, said:

Yes, but Cowboyz1 said this
"I have written off this year because Lee, Carter and our O and D lines are done. However, the Eagles have no excuse to be this bad."

Making it sound as if the Cowboys have an excuse because of injuries but the Eagles don't.

We don't have any excuse either because we had our players in games we could have won and been in better shape now. However, the Eagles are suppose to be Super with thier Corners, Ryans, and D line. Oh and their offense was suppose to be an unstoppable juggernaut that would blow through defenses like Spartans through Persians.

If you look at the seasons predictions from everyone here, in sports radio, the talking heads, even the players all had the Eagles in the Championship game on the way to a superbowl. Bringing up the rear in the East , dragging a blanky with their thumb in their mouths was not even a possibility. Now that it's a reality you want to say it's because of whatever. The Eagles were suppose to be SO deep in talent, they could field two teams. 3-9 is a far cry from even respectable for this team with such high expectations.

Edited by Cowboyz1, 03 December 2012 - 03:29 PM.

[keggerz]

Cowboyz1, on 03 December 2012 - 03:20 PM, said:

We don't have any excuse either because we had our players in games we could have won and been in better shape now. However, the Eagles are suppose to be Super with thier Corners, Ryans, and D line. Oh and their offense was suppose to be an unstoppable juggernaut that would blow through defenses like Spartans through Persians.

If you look at the seasons predictions from everyone here, in sports radio, the talking heads, even the players all had the Eagles in the Championship game on the way to a superbowl. Bringing up the rear in the East , dragging a blanky with their thumb in their mouths was not even a possibility. Now that it's a reality you want to say it's because of whatever. The Eagles were suppose to be SO deep in talent, they could field two teams. 3-9 is a far cry from even respectable for this team with such high expectations.

your bait is stinky.

1.  The corners were supposed to be super, ends up they have sucked, we also knew that safety was an issue too.
2.  Ryans came at a nice price but there were question marks surrounding him, he hasn't been horrible, but he also hasn't been the Ryans of 4 yrs ago either.
3.  LB with Ryans was still a concern.
4.  They were/are deep on their DL.  However wen your secondary cant cover it makes it hard for the d-line to do their job.
5.  Any team that loses FOUR of their starting OL are going to find things very difficult.

Edited by keggerz, 03 December 2012 - 05:36 PM.

[stevegrab]

Cowboyz1, on 03 December 2012 - 03:20 PM, said:

We don't have any excuse either because we had our players in games we could have won and been in better shape now. However, the Eagles are suppose to be Super with thier Corners, Ryans, and D line. Oh and their offense was suppose to be an unstoppable juggernaut that would blow through defenses like Spartans through Persians.

If you look at the seasons predictions from everyone here, in sports radio, the talking heads, even the players all had the Eagles in the Championship game on the way to a superbowl. Bringing up the rear in the East , dragging a blanky with their thumb in their mouths was not even a possibility. Now that it's a reality you want to say it's because of whatever. The Eagles were suppose to be SO deep in talent, they could field two teams. 3-9 is a far cry from even respectable for this team with such high expectations.

Youre description of how the Eagles were supposed to be super sounds a lot like how people have been talking up the Cowboys for the last few years, being a SB contender every year. Including your regular posts here.

I see this is really nothing more than a Cowboys vs. Eagles who sucks more kind of thread, so apparently rationale thought won't be tolerated.

[keggerz]

stevegrab, on 03 December 2012 - 05:41 PM, said:

Youre description of how the Eagles were supposed to be super sounds a lot like how people have been talking up the Cowboys for the last few years, being a SB contender every year. Including your regular posts here.

I see this is really nothing more than a Cowboys vs. Eagles who sucks more kind of thread, so apparently rationale thought won't be tolerated.

and I can easily say the Eagles suck right now.

[HowboutthemCowboys]

stevegrab, on 03 December 2012 - 05:41 PM, said:

Youre description of how the Eagles were supposed to be super sounds a lot like how people have been talking up the Cowboys for the last few years, being a SB contender every year.

Wrong.  Last season they were the Dream Team/Dynasty..whatever.  This year alot of "experts" had them winning the draft IIRC and with the regular offseason program they were expected to bounce back.   They suck

Noone in their right mind thought Dallas was going to be a SB contender at the start of this season

[HowboutthemCowboys]

keggerz, on 03 December 2012 - 05:52 PM, said:

and I can easily say the Eagles suck right now.

And I've been saying that Dallas sucks as well.

Philly sucks more    

[boltnlava]

Romo=Rivers=Romo=Rivers=Romo. Same story, different team and year. Majestic then really good then pretty good then meh. Surround them with superstars then the mistakes they make aren't season killers.

After the gold rush all that's left is the dirt and bodies.

[Cowboyz1]

stevegrab, on 03 December 2012 - 05:41 PM, said:

Youre description of how the Eagles were supposed to be super sounds a lot like how people have been talking up the Cowboys for the last few years, being a SB contender every year. Including your regular posts here.

I see this is really nothing more than a Cowboys vs. Eagles who sucks more kind of thread, so apparently rationale thought won't be tolerated.

Find where i predict the Cowboys in the Superbowl. I have always hoped even expected them to get to the playoffs first. I believe this team is capable of getting to the playoffs and if we had not lost so many starters on both sides of the ball we could have done pretty well in the playoffs.

Now I don't for one second believe this team is capable of going deep in the playoffs with this O line and this defense. However, it would be something if Slip could rally his team to some wins and slip in the backdoor of the turnny. Who knows, maybe he can prove once and for all to all the haters that he's as elite as I think he is. Carrying this team on his back like he's done most of the year would surely put down the haters. Most TD's passes of any Cowboys QB in less time, best 4th quarter passer rating, and if Sunday night is any measure of what he is capable of, I'd say we have a shot in most games regardless of defense. That is if he can keep from getting killed by a sorry O line.

Edited by Cowboyz1, 03 December 2012 - 07:23 PM.

[bdub1988]

Both the Cowboys and Eagles have drastically underperformed this year, and are big disappointments. However, I've gotta put up with something neither of those teams' fans do: the Butt Fumble. That goddamn clip is gonna be ending homer arguments for me with a hung head for years to come.

[i_am_the_swammi]

Cowboyz1, on 03 December 2012 - 11:47 AM, said:

So what changes need to be made other then DC and HC?

QB? TE? OLB? S? DT? OT? OG?  Add those to the HC and DC, and you have a scrabble bonanza of changes that need to be made before this team can ever seriously challenge for anything.

And please don't give me "they have a star at every positon" BS. Its pretty clear Asomghua wasn't as-advertised, DRC can't cover big WRs in man coverage (Bryant abused him badly), DeSean Jackson should have been allowed to walk rather than get paid, Maclin is a WR2 at best, and Celek is a journeyman possession TE in a time when TEs can take over games (see Gronk/Graham/etc). And those of us with any honesty knew Vick was never the long-term answer, even if Andy stubbornly paid him as such.

Starting the year with just one of our projected starting OL was rough....losing Peters was a brutal reality. King Dunlap he ain't.

Keep McCoy and a handful of others....and blow-up the rest. Seriously.

[Cowboyz1]

i_am_the_swammi, on 04 December 2012 - 09:28 AM, said:

QB? TE? OLB? S? DT? OT? OG?  Add those to the HC and DC, and you have a scrabble bonanza of changes that need to be made before this team can ever seriously challenge for anything.

And please don't give me "they have a star at every positon" BS. Its pretty clear Asomghua wasn't as-advertised, DRC can't cover big WRs in man coverage (Bryant abused him badly), DeSean Jackson should have been allowed to walk rather than get paid, Maclin is a WR2 at best, and Celek is a journeyman possession TE in a time when TEs can take over games (see Gronk/Graham/etc). And those of us with any honesty knew Vick was never the long-term answer, even if Andy stubbornly paid him as such.

Starting the year with just one of our projected starting OL was rough....losing Peters was a brutal reality. King Dunlap he ain't.

Keep McCoy and a handful of others....and blow-up the rest. Seriously.

Unfortunately you paid a lot of those guys star money and if you do what you suggest your going to end up in cap hell for just short of eternity. If you listened to the experts, your GM is one of the best in the business!

Edited by Cowboyz1, 04 December 2012 - 12:05 PM.

[Joebirds55]

Is slip romos widely accepted nickname? Every time I read that I laugh for some reason...and think of him slipping in that playoff game on the extra point hold