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AP too good to be true?


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Anybody else wondering if Adrian Peterson's miraculous comeback is a bit too good to be true? There are three possibilities here:

1. His knee injury was not as severe as originally reported, facilitating a better-than-expected rehab.

2. His knee injury was correctly reported and dude just happens to be the one human in the history of humans to come back in 9 months better than before the injury.

3. He had help in the form of PEDs.

 

I got burned with MLB, Sosa, and McGuire and vowed never again to be so naive. I can't even watch cycling anymore it's such a doped out joke. AP seems like one of the better guys in the league but I'm really starting to wonder.

 

To be clear, I have absolutely no knowledge of his situation whatsoever. I just think this warrants more discussion than it's currently getting - which is none.

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It gets none because none is warranted. It's only when people that can't except the fact that he worked his freaken arse off, start to doubt he did it cleanly, do people start discussing it. Just because there is a history of cheaters in sports, does not warrant a witch hunt every time somebody does something extraordinary. I shudder at the thought of Bo Jackson coming up in the age of steroids as his name too, would have been pummeled with doubt.

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technology, evolution of training techniques, and his dna. don't know your age, but jerry rice made a very speedy recovery from a nasty injury (by sapp). he got himself "game ready" w/in three months when it was expected to take 4-6. came back..played fine, but reinjured it in his comeback game. actually caught a td on the play that he reinjured it.

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It gets none because none is warranted. It's only when people that can't except the fact that he worked his freaken arse off, start to doubt he did it cleanly, do people start discussing it. Just because there is a history of cheaters in sports, does not warrant a witch hunt every time somebody does something extraordinary. I shudder at the thought of Bo Jackson coming up in the age of steroids as his name too, would have been pummeled with doubt.

 

Taz oftentimes spews poo :woot: , but this is totally spot on. :tup:

 

As a Bear and Longhorn fan, I'm wired to hate AP, but as a football fan and now a resident of Minneapolis, I can't help but be in awe and applaud.

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It is a possibility, no matter how big of an amazing, feel-good comeback story it is. No one talks about HGH in the NFL since they don't test for it. I wouldn't be surprised if half the league uses it, to be perfectly honest. Personally I think he's a quick healer(the opposite of Tender-Feet DMC) and worked his arse off rehabilitating it. But again, I wouldn't be surprised if there was a little unnatural boost.

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Didn't an ACL used to be a career-ending injury (I know it still can be, but thought it used to be truly career-ending). Then just a few years ago it took another year on top of the year of rehab for guys to get back to form. Technology, conditioning and rehab all continue to just get better and better, clearly shrinking rehab time.

 

It isn't like AP is the only one healing and coming back quicker. Welker did a few years back, Charles did it in a little less than a year also... And no one is denying that AP is built like a thoroughbred, so it's not that big of a stretch that he can even do knee-healing better than everyone else.

 

That said, who knows... I think a blind-eye may be turned more in the NFL than baseball on PEDs, because it doesn't destroy the purity of it so much.... Well, until of course you get to a situation of guys so big, strong, fast that it causes the commish to water the game down into glorified flag football.... So maybe PED use does make a lot of sense :thinking:

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Performance enhancing drugs don't help you become more patient for holes to open up. They don't help you see better downfield either. He's a better runner this year than he ever has been. That includes his rookie year when he broke plenty of long runs.

 

 

And according to local chit-chat, the downfield blocking has been superior this year, turning 8-10 yard gains into those huge 50+ jobbers.

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Anybody else wondering if Adrian Peterson's miraculous comeback is a bit too good to be true? There are three possibilities here:

 

3. He had help in the form of PEDs.

 

 

 

 

What if he only used HGH/steroids to help his early rehab? Or in other words, he was using PEDs but for their actual purpose, healing, as opposed to using them during the season to enhance performance? Would that be allowed?

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What if he only used HGH/steroids to help his early rehab? Or in other words, he was using PEDs but for their actual purpose, healing, as opposed to using them during the season to enhance performance? Would that be allowed?

 

 

Interesting question. I'm not gonna pretend I know the in's and out's of the drug policy but this proposes a warranted question. Are NFL players allowed to use banned substances when healing from a serious injury??? I see no reason why they would not be allowed to like every other human being on the planet. In fact I would be shocked if they were not, especially if they were on the IR. Now if they were, I'm sure it would be strictly monitored as to not be abused after the initial healing process has run its course.

 

I have a personal example of this. When I was in the Navy, I had what was diagnosed as Temporal Arteritis. My headaches were unbearable so I was prescribed steroids to thin out the blood in my temporal artery. Steroids are considered an illegal drug by the military unless prescribed by a naval doctor. You would be amazed how many people approached me when it became known I had prescription steroids lol. I never sold or gave them away, although it was very tempting and would have been pretty lucrative. I gained 30 pounds and ate like a damned horse. I'm only bringing this up cause there are situations that require medical treaments involving banned substances in order for the patient to make the best recovery possible. Again, I would be shocked if the NFL was that ignorant as to deny players any form of legal treatment. I would be equally shocked if Joe Public used that as ammo against a player that was following medical and NFL rules for healing/treatment/recovery.

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He is a rare speciman; half man, half beast. After Surgery, he set opening day as his goal to be ready (9 months). During OTA's, he was running wind sprints. Although, he was held out of preseason games, he still said he would be ready for opening day. He should be recognized as team MVP. Without him, the Vikings would be lucky to have won 3 games. I just wish I would have drafted him in some of my leagues. He will be at the top of the draft boards next year. MVPeterson!!

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Would PEDs accelerate the healing of ligaments?

 

I thought they mostly helped muscle tissue heal faster - but once you tear an MCL / ACL I didn't think drugs would do much to fix that.

 

So many athletes have taken PEDs in the past that it's tough not to be cynical - but I think his rapid return probably reflects improvements in the surgery and rehab. As well as improvements to the OL.

 

I'm wondering what he'll be like next year. Stronger because he's had even more time to heal. About the same. Or he'll be worse off because of wear and tear from this year.

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Until there is evidence to prove otherwise, I will credit AP's excellence on the field this season to him being a physical freak with phenominal ability/drive as well as the marvels of modern sports medicine and training. Strong evidence in his favor, IMO, is he has played extremely hard and been elite pretty much from the start. Its not like he was oft-injured/half-assed and suddenly is all world. He was a beast pre-injury and is a beast afterward. Only thing I've seen that has changed (like MV said) is he may have learned to be a more patient RB waiting for/identifying holes rather than just go go go. And I would agree there is improved downfield blocking as well as D3 mentioned, too.

 

Now, with that said, I dont blame people for questioning whether or not he had more "help" than we know of. History (particularly, recently) has shown us over and over that athletes can and do take illegal advantage of the marvels of modern chemistry to gain an edge. And when an athlete dominates in a hyper-competitive sport, I think its fair to wonder whether they have used PEDs (particularly, if said athlete is seemingly defying the laws of the human body in the process). So I have no problem with people asking the question. If Adrian is indeed clean and has earned everything through ability/hard work, I would hope he would actually take it as a compliment.

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Until there is evidence to prove otherwise, I will credit AP's excellence on the field this season to him being a physical freak with phenominal ability/drive as well as the marvels of modern sports medicine and training. Strong evidence in his favor, IMO, is he has played extremely hard and been elite pretty much from the start. Its not like he was oft-injured/half-assed and suddenly is all world. He was a beast pre-injury and is a beast afterward. Only thing I've seen that has changed (like MV said) is he may have learned to be a more patient RB waiting for/identifying holes rather than just go go go. And I would agree there is improved downfield blocking as well as D3 mentioned, too.

 

Now, with that said, I dont blame people for questioning whether or not he had more "help" than we know of. History (particularly, recently) has shown us over and over that athletes can and do take illegal advantage of the marvels of modern chemistry to gain an edge. And when an athlete dominates in a hyper-competitive sport, I think its fair to wonder whether they have used PEDs (particularly, if said athlete is seemingly defying the laws of the human body in the process). So I have no problem with people asking the question. If Adrian is indeed clean and has earned everything through ability/hard work, I would hope he would actually take it as a compliment.

 

 

Excellent post, agree 100%.

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