cubdaddy Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Brandon Lloyd = 74/911/4 with 131 targets...subtract Welker, Hernandez, Gronk (first few weeks), and Lloyd...sub in oft injured Amendola...and the fact that Brady will be looking for a new favorite target...and I like him to be a steady producer with a few HUGH games. I rate him as WR3 with upside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubdaddy Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Sunday night he was taken #114 overall in a 10 team (3WR) 6 IDP league, taken ahead of Josh Gordon (who I took 5 spots later), Michael Floyd and V Brown. Of the 4 money leagues I've done so far, that was the first one I didn't get Thomp in. Â I'd probably take him ahead of those guys too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Brandon Lloyd = 74/911/4 with 131 targets...subtract Welker, Hernandez, Gronk (first few weeks), and Lloyd...sub in oft injured Amendola...and the fact that Brady will be looking for a new favorite target...and I like him to be a steady producer with a few HUGH games. I rate him as WR3 with upside.   For the love of God... stop. In 2009 he played in 14 games as a rookie. 2010 he played in all 16.  The dude dislocated his elbow in a freak injury in 2011 and missed the season.  In 2012 he had the nasty clavicle injury.  It's not like the guy has a knee issue or recurring foot problems  A couple of freak injuries doesn't make a player "oft injured". There's no reason to think Amendola can't play a full 16 games this season. His "undisclosed injury" last week is nothing to be worried about. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubdaddy Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013   For the love of God... stop. In 2009 he played in 14 games as a rookie. 2010 he played in all 16.  The dude dislocated his elbow in a freak injury in 2011 and missed the season.  In 2012 he had the nasty clavicle injury.  It's not like the guy has a knee issue or recurring foot problems  A couple of freak injuries doesn't make a player "oft injured". There's no reason to think Amendola can't play a full 16 games this season. His "undisclosed injury" last week is nothing to be worried about.  Don't get me wrong...he is talented and could yield Welker-type production which is one of the reasons why NE let WW walk...BUT...one full season out of 4...the last two seasons missing all or significant time due to injury... be they of the "freakish" variety or not...I'm sorry to say, does warrant use of the term "oft injured"... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Don't get me wrong...he is talented and could yield Welker-type production which is one of the reasons why NE let WW walk...BUT...one full season out of 4...the last two seasons missing all or significant time due to injury... be they of the "freakish" variety or not...I'm sorry to say, does warrant use of the term "oft injured"... Â Â I totally disagree. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripleshot Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 The reason the Pats felt so confident in giving Amendola that contract is because Belichick has the team chefs liberally dosing all of Amendola's meals with deer antler spray. He may very well stay healthy for the whole season. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dougsul Posted August 28, 2013 Share Posted August 28, 2013 Well no one can predict the future so we only have the past to go on. A guy that misses a lot of games during the past few years is a guy that has to be considered often injured, at the very least a risky pick depending on where you get him.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Well no one can predict the future so we only have the past to go on. A guy that misses a lot of games during the past few years is a guy that has to be considered often injured, at the very least a risky pick depending on where you get him.. Â Â He was injured twice. You can see it your way, I'll see it mine. Feel free to let a reception-machine in one of the league's best and most consistently productive offenses with a HOF QB slip on by you. Your leaguemates will thank you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubdaddy Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 I would love to have him on my team....I targeted him as WR2 with WR1 upside... He was drafted in RD 3 in all my drafts...I had him with a RD 4/5 grade and would have taken him gladly there...The post was more to say that I like Thompkins a lot...and like him more in the event Amendola misses any time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balzac Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 I would love to have him on my team....I targeted him as WR2 with WR1 upside... He was drafted in RD 3 in all my drafts...I had him with a RD 4/5 grade and would have taken him gladly there...The post was more to say that I like Thompkins a lot...and like him more in the event Amendola misses any time. Â Â I assume you're referring to a dynasty league? I haven't seen him going anywhere near rounds 3-5 otherwise. Don't get me wrong - I love the guy and hope he explodes. Â As far as the "oft injured" tag for Amendola goes, I don't see how you can say it doesn't apply. Given the sample size, he is clearly "oft injured." Now, does that mean he's "injury prone"? I'd say not - sample size is too small and the injuries he's had have been a bit freakish. We're talking semantics here but what Darin really seems to be debating is whether Amendola is "injury prone." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cubdaddy Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Â Â I assume you're referring to a dynasty league? I haven't seen him going anywhere near rounds 3-5 otherwise. Don't get me wrong - I love the guy and hope he explodes. Â As far as the "oft injured" tag for Amendola goes, I don't see how you can say it doesn't apply. Given the sample size, he is clearly "oft injured." Now, does that mean he's "injury prone"? I'd say not - sample size is too small and the injuries he's had have been a bit freakish. We're talking semantics here but what Darin really seems to be debating is whether Amendola is "injury prone." Â Good point. Definitely agree that there is a distinct difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTSuper7 Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Thompkins is a WAY better value than Amendola based on where they are being drafted, though Thompkins' ADP is creeping up. He went in the early 9th in my most recent 12-team draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Company of Heroes Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 I've seen KT go early 8th round- which is a fantasy starter in most leagues. Too rich for my blood given the unknowns. I'd rather be taking my QB/TEs in that range. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Elf Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Thompkins is a WAY better value than Amendola based on where they are being drafted, though Thompkins' ADP is creeping up. He went in the early 9th in my most recent 12-team draft. Â Â In an auction draft I had last night, Jordy Nelson went for $7--Thompkins went for $8. The hype is getting a little out of control. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tastes Like More Posted August 29, 2013 Author Share Posted August 29, 2013 In an auction draft I had last night, Jordy Nelson went for $7--Thompkins went for $8. The hype is getting a little out of control. Â Â Seems ridiculous, as of today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 By definition, he's often injured, oft injured, or whatever you want to call it. I think what Darin is trying to say is that his injury history doesn't necessarily mean he's "injury-prone." Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Seems ridiculous, as of today. Â Â I could easily see that. Auction drafts have weird ebbs and flows, and it's frequent to see guys at the end of drafts go for way more than you'd expect simply because the guy has the money. Last year, two guys holding $10, both waiting on QB2. Flacco gets tossed, both bid out, owner A wins. Owner B now tosses Bradford for $1 and now has $9 to spend. Another owner was holding out at TE, same result, and now two guys have $9 to spend and no plans. Why not take a flier on the guy getting most of the sleeper talk at the moment? Â Nelson at $7 seems a bit low, but again, every single auction goes into ebbs where guys, especially a guy with a lingering health concern, don't get any action. Miles Austin and Reggie Wayne both went for $7 in my auction league last year. Nelson for $7 isn't even a stretch, let alone ridiculous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 By definition, he's often injured, oft injured, or whatever you want to call it. I think what Darin is trying to say is that his injury history doesn't necessarily mean he's "injury-prone." Â Â Correct and maybe I was incorrect in thinking that "oft injured" was on par with saying he is injury prone. Â Either way, he could play in all 16 games and end up as a top-10 (or maybe higher) PPR WR... or he can dive out of bounds again and have his ulna come out of his palm. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Axe Elf Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 Nelson for $7 isn't even a stretch, let alone ridiculous. Â Â I think Thompkins at $8 is more ridiculous than Nelson at $7. And it wasn't an end-of-draft bidding war like you described (I saw Eddie Lacy go for $38 and DeSean Jackson go for $40 in a couple of those recently)--it was just a couple of people drinking the Kool-Aid on Thompkins and overpaying for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 And as an aside, it's boggling to me why certain folks are so down on Brady, and then turn around and are singing the praises of guys like Thompkins and Sudfeld. I mean, just a month or so ago these people are saying that Brady will "have no one to throw to" and "no way Brady is a top fantasy QB this year". Now they're wowed by these no-names and Brady once again will be elite. When have we heard that before? I dunno, pretty much all of Brady's relevant seasons? Â That said, and if it's not already plainly evident, I'd be careful with this guy. He's had a nice preseason but there are some other talented, young WRs on this team that could "get it" at some point during the season and will make more things happen when it matters most. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balzac Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 By definition, he's often injured, oft injured, or whatever you want to call it. I think what Darin is trying to say is that his injury history doesn't necessarily mean he's "injury-prone." Â Â sounds familiar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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