Big John Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 CJ TD called back on review as he did not have total control of the ball while falling down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delicious_bass Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 CJ TD called back on review as he did not have total control of the ball while falling down. that rule needs work, IMO. if that wasn't a catch (and TD), I have never seen one. 81 hosed again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delicious_bass Posted September 8, 2013 Share Posted September 8, 2013 (edited) And right there is a perfect example of why the rule (that called the Johnson play an incomplete pass) is crap. Bell's play called a TD :shakes head: Edited September 8, 2013 by Delicious_bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hugh-mongus Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 I'm still trying to figure out why CJ's was not a touchdown, yet Victor Cruz's was. Based on NFL rules, if CJ didn't complete the catch, neither did Cruz (based on the letter of the law). 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelsosi Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 I finally saw the play. I actually think it was the right call - the ball definitely came out of his hand as he hit the ground. And I'm a megatron owner in multiple leagues. Dude definitely seems to be snakebitten when it comes to the end zone though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delicious_bass Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 (edited) I finally saw the play. I actually think it was the right call - the ball definitely came out of his hand as he hit the ground. And I'm a megatron owner in multiple leagues. Dude definitely seems to be snakebitten when it comes to the end zone though. Right call based on a bad rule, IMO. Johnson (while in the field of play) jumped and caught the ball high with both hands, was hit by the safety, got 2 feet down, brought the ball down and then extended it as he lunged for (and into) the endzone. He had total control in both hands when the ball crossed the plane. The ball did not move until it hit the turf. Even then it moved but he did not lose control. I don't see why a play like that should be scrutinized differently than many other plays (ie the one Vincent Brown scored on last night) where all that matters is the tip of the ball crossing the plane. Check the pic at the below link: http://www.freep.com/article/20130908/SPORTS01/309080136/detroit-lions-calvin-johnson-rule Edited September 10, 2013 by Delicious_bass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gopher Posted September 10, 2013 Share Posted September 10, 2013 (edited) Right call based on a bad rule, IMO. Johnson (while in the field of play) jumped and caught the ball high with both hands, was hit by the safety, got 2 feet down, brought the ball down and then extended it as he lunged for (and into) the endzone. He had total control in both hands when the ball crossed the plane. The ball did not move until it hit the turf even then it moved but he did not lose control. I don't see why a play like that should be scrutinized differently than many other plays (ie the one Vincent Brown scored on last night) where all that matters is the tip of the ball crossing the plane. Check the pic at the below link: http://www.freep.com...in-johnson-rule I don't like the rule, but the difference is that Brown had caught/secured the ball several steps before reaching the pylon. There's no question (in my mind or yours) that Johnson caught the ball, as well. But, for whatever reason, the NFL rule is that they have to finish the play in question (with the ball still in their possession). So... guy catches ball at the 5 yard line, runs towards the goal line, and extends the ball over the goal line. As soon as the ball breaks that plane, it's a TD, no matter if he holds onto it or not (after that). Like the J. Bell score in the DET-MIN game (where the ball was knocked loose a fraction of a second after breaking the plane)... The ball was in Bell's possession as soon as he took a step after the handoff, which is different than if he had caught the ball at the 1 yard line, then stretched across. Again, I don't particularly care for the rule, but they're calling it the way it's written (at least, they did in the three scenarios I mentioned above), like it or not. Edit: I'm agreeing with you, I think. We both don't like the rule (and therefore don't agree with the Brown and Johnson plays being scrutinized differently), even though, by rule, they had different (correct) outcomes. Edited September 10, 2013 by Gopher 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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