flemingd Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) you can only have 10 draft picks before the draft starts, what didn't you understand? The 49ers had 13 picks last year and the Ravens had 12, so that can't be an actual NFL rule. Source please. Edited September 19, 2013 by flemingd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BA Baracus Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 I can't decide if this is better or worse for TRich in FF for this season. I get the whole 'part of a better offense' thing, but Bradshaw is no slouch. I was just watching the 30 min replay of the colts game today and thinking he looked pretty damn good vs Miami. I was actually starting to construct trade possibilities in my mind to acquire him until this TRich news broke. I think long term, this is a good thing for Trent's FF numbers, but I don't think that Bradshaw goes right to the bench. I definitely think that a timeshare is a strong likelihood. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delfamdelfam Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 The 49ers had 13 picks last year and the Ravens had 12, so that can't be an actual NFL rule. Source please. before the draft you can only have 10, you can trade during the draft to get more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 before the draft you can only have 10, you can trade during the draft to get more. They had 13 and 12 respectively before the draft. Source please. http://www.baltimoreravens.com/news/article-1/Ravens-Bolster-Draft-Picks-To-12/12408d68-43a9-4c68-b032-19f0d35ecf70 Baltimore will enter the NFL draft on April 25th with a whopping 12 draft picks, a 50 percent increase from the eight they previously had. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Jordan Cameron's stock just went through the roof IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seahawks21 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 I think there is actually a decent chance the Colts got completely fleeced here. They just gave a first round pick for a young back that was supposed to be NFL ready, that has averaged 3.5 YPC in his young career for a team that has a line with much better run blocking than theirs. I'm not saying either way here, but if you would read through this thread, you would think they just acquired a perennial all-pro. If he doesn't get significantly better, this move could keep the Colts from improving, not cause them to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 I think you cannot undervalue the difference between playing for CLE where stacking against the run was easy to do because Richardson was the biggest threat, and playing for IND where the defense is not likely to stack the line. That makes a big difference. We'll see, but I would always prefer the lesser line in the better offense that the defense won't committ #1 to stopping the RB against being the prime target no matter what. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthrax1 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 (edited) why trade a guy right before he even touches his prime?!? for a late 1st rounder?!!? just wow While true, they now get to trade up. They can trade away a draft pick to move up in the draft if they feel its necessary. Edited September 19, 2013 by Anthrax1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthrax1 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 I just don't see how there wasn't another team out there willing to give up more. A first and a fourth? A first and a third? No so sure. I think what sealed the deal was Ballard going down for the year. Most everyone else has RBs. Some are hurt, but most are expected to come back at some point. I don't think Bradshaw was ever intended to be their full time starter. So, with TR being their best option to get another first round, Indy turned out to be their best choice. I doubt with everyone having starters (even if they were hurt) they would have been willing to give up two draft picks for TR. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 This also caps them at the 10 max picks before the draft, so they couldn't have gotten much more for richardson anyways. what in the world are you talking about? 10 max picks? Is this a new rule I missed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dcat Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 before the draft you can only have 10, you can trade during the draft to get more. please provide a link to this supposed NFL rule. Thanks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nelsosi Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 I realize he's still a kid, but is it possible that the Browns know something about Richardson that nobody else does? Maybe he's not the future stud everybody wants to think he is? He had decent fantasy number last year by they were strictly volume based - his peripheral stats were mediocre last year (and this year) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stethant Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 I realize he's still a kid, but is it possible that the Browns know something about Richardson that nobody else does? Maybe he's not the future stud everybody wants to think he is? He had decent fantasy number last year by they were strictly volume based - his peripheral stats were mediocre last year (and this year) This is certainly possible but it is equally likely, IMO, that what we have here is yet another example of an egomaniac GM who thinks that he's in sole possesion of the light, wisdom, and truth of NFL scouting and wants it done his way - plain and simple. Why build off the previous guy when you can blow it up and start over? What's that - you say we've been blowing it up and starting over since 1999? Hmm.... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CaptainHook Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Ok so if the target is Teddy Bridgewater, what happens if the Jaguars finish with the worst record? Yeah, it's great Cleveland has two first round draft picks . . . maybe even the second overall . . . but that doesn't necessarily mean they can trade up to number one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 As a Browns fan I am totally pissed. All the rationalization and talk of future plans for 2014 mean nothing. We've been hearing that since 99, its always next year, just now we're saying it in chivesing week 3. Trading away a known commodity for a draft pick that can crap out is crazy. They were already going to have a top 5 pick in 2014, the Colts likely bottom half/third of the draft pick isn't going to make a huge difference in who they can get. I understand we need a QB, and probably need to get one from the draft. If I were a season ticket holder I wouldn't renew after this year, and I suspect that will happen with a lot of folks. I'm also not sure how I can continue to follow this team this year while they throw in the towel. (Already have rumors that Gordon could be traded, why not Joe Thomas and Joe Haden too.) For those acting like TRich isn't that good because of his stats/injuries, read DMD's post and watch his career going forward. The Browns were fleeced, and the GM is an egomaniac who doesn't want any players he didn't draft. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
electricrelish Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Jimmy Haslam is running the Browns as well as Pilot Flying J. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Jimmy Haslam is running the Browns as well as Pilot Flying J. No, Pilot Flying J depsite their problems is still a successful company, while the Browns continue to be the laughing stock of the NFL. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 They had 13 and 12 respectively before the draft. Source please. http://www.baltimore...32-19f0d35ecf70 Baltimore will enter the NFL draft on April 25th with a whopping 12 draft picks, a 50 percent increase from the eight they previously had. I never heard of such a rule before. Maybe before the comp picks are included? (There are a max of 4 comp picks per team given out and with 7 regular picks that alone puts you over 10). And i could not find a reliable link stating such a rule. Even if there is such a rule, CLE could have offered their 7th as a throw in to get another higher pick added. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loaf Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 I would ask Haslam for a rebate on the tickets I bought but he has trouble with rebates. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
coordi88 Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 I read that you can have 10 maximum picks going into the draft, not counting compensatory picks. I can't find it in the official rules so I was probably mislead. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Dick Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 I would ask Haslam for a rebate on the tickets I bought but he has trouble with rebates. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kidsgotsoul Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 I can't decide if this is better or worse for TRich in FF for this season. I get the whole 'part of a better offense' thing, but Bradshaw is no slouch. I was just watching the 30 min replay of the colts game today and thinking he looked pretty damn good vs Miami. I was actually starting to construct trade possibilities in my mind to acquire him until this TRich news broke. I think long term, this is a good thing for Trent's FF numbers, but I don't think that Bradshaw goes right to the bench. I definitely think that a timeshare is a strong likelihood. I don't think the Colts would have gone through this if they were sold on Bradshaw. This isn't just some FA signing they did after Ballard went down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Has anyone considered the possibility that CLE has first hand knowledge of Richardson being nothing special and may have robbed IND by being able to wrangle their 1st rounder for him? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bronco Billy Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Ok so if the target is Teddy Bridgewater, what happens if the Jaguars finish with the worst record? Yeah, it's great Cleveland has two first round draft picks . . . maybe even the second overall . . . but that doesn't necessarily mean they can trade up to number one. Then they draft Clowney and sign Freeman as a FA, them use the second 1st rounder, the later one, on a top RB. I don't see the problem Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delfamdelfam Posted September 19, 2013 Share Posted September 19, 2013 Then they draft Clowney and sign Freeman as a FA, them use the second 1st rounder, the later one, on a top RB. I don't see the problem yeah, cause Freeman is a franchise QB. I think they would draft a QB with that 2nd 1st round pick. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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