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Do you greatly modify your roster when you are doing well?


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Fantasty Football newbie here, just wondering that if you are doing well like undefeated or 1 loss so far, do you let your main starting lineup/team roster ride (barring any injuries)?

 

Wondering if it would be wise to field any trade offers for my major production stars.

 

Do you usually stay put or field trades if you are doing well at the start of the season? Afraid to mess up the mojo?

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Started 3-0 this year. After Gordon had his first game, I traded josh Gordon and djax for dez. I'm currently 6-0. I figured, I'll never start 3 wrs so might as well get someone who is probably top 5 every week. I ended up starting blackmon (picked up waiver) as my 3rd wr = ="

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If I am flying high I don't automatically abide by the if it ain't broken method of thinking. I am more cautious on making significant moves, because there is more to lose, but will still pull the trigger if I like the move when all is said and done. Stagnancy is not really the best policy for fantasy. My main team dropped their first game due to Calvin Johnson, Jimmy Graham, and Randall Cobb injuries..so I don't have the luxury to stay put.

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Unless you have an injury you should probably stick with "If it aint broke, don't fix it". We have a guy in my local that started 6-0. Last week , much to my elation, he offers me Knowshown and Andre Johnson for Chris Johnson. After cleaning the mess I made in my pants, I clicked accept and have never been happier. He ends up losing his first game that he easily would have won if he didn't make the trade

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Unless you have an injury you should probably stick with "If it aint broke, don't fix it". We have a guy in my local that started 6-0. Last week , much to my elation, he offers me Knowshown and Andre Johnson for Chris Johnson. After cleaning the mess I made in my pants, I clicked accept and have never been happier. He ends up losing his first game that he easily would have won if he didn't make the trade

 

 

Was he drunk out of he skull or high on paint fumes?

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Tend to agree with Whomper on this one, but in one of my leagues where I was 4-1 with Charles, Lacy, Reggie Bush, Joique Bell, Ellington, and Leveon Bell as my RBs, I traded Reggie and Joique for Josh Gordon. I still have good RB depth, not great like it was mind you, but now my starting WRs are Gordon and D. Thomas whereas before I was trotting out guys like Edelman and Jeffrey alongside Thomas.

 

Sometimes when you're near the top of your league, there are still moves you can make to improve. I did turn down many, many trade offers before that one came up though. No sense in making moves just for the sake of it.

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I was 4-0 and leading my league in scoring, but my TE position was junk (Jared Cook). I decided that I should make a move and traded TRich and Gronk for my Reggie Bush. You all know how that is working out, I'm 4-2 now and praying Gronk gets back soon to salvage the situation.

 

So the true effects of a trade may be slow to materialize, but in the short term, It's tough to give up a stud. It changes games you win by a few points into games you lose by a few points.

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I don't typically actively seek trades, unless I have a glaring weakness that I am unlikely to fix through the waiver wire. I say typically because there are leagues where I tend to trade more than others. That said, it doesn't matter if I'm 6-0 or 0-6, I spend a fair amount of time each week, scouring the waiver wire for guys who can improve my teams at any/all positions... right down to the kickers and defense. Fantasy football is constantly changing (we've seen that a lot in the past couple of weeks, with injuries to several key players), and if you stand pat and just hope for the best, someone is likely to pass you in the standings. I spend more time, on a weekly basis, looking through free agents, reading daily news, and submitting waivers claims, than I do setting my lineups... by a mile.

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Yes, I do. Dealing now with Cobb's injury. Dealt with Boldin's lack of performance and Ridley's too. Just because you are winning does not mean your roster is as good as it can be nor that a weakness like a bye week could interrupt your season and send it in the other direction in a hurry.

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In one of my locals, I drafted the crappiest bunch of RBs evah. I have Dez, Gordon, DJax, & A. Brown. There's a bunch of teams weak at WR but no one wants to deal. Since there's only been 2-3 trades over the last 4-5 years I'm not holding my breath.

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Crash Davis once said... "Never chives with a winning streak."

 

I used to subscribe to that a little bit and left a winning team alone. Too many times, however, I saw that winning team start losing and/or losing teams behind me start winning and catch up. So, now I tend to ignore my record and look at any potential transactions purely on the basis of if they improve my team's chances to score the most points over the course of the remainder of the season. If I can improve my team, no objections to making moves. If it will not improve my team, no sense doing it just to shake things up. Kind of a Captn Obvious type answer, but my $0.02

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Was he drunk out of he skull or high on paint fumes?

 

He is normally the league doormat. I think he panicked at 6-0 and felt CJ was a more secure rb than Knowshon

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Crash Davis once said... "Never chives with a winning streak."

 

I used to subscribe to that a little bit and left a winning team alone. Too many times, however, I saw that winning team start losing and/or losing teams behind me start winning and catch up. So, now I tend to ignore my record and look at any potential transactions purely on the basis of if they improve my team's chances to score the most points over the course of the remainder of the season. If I can improve my team, no objections to making moves. If it will not improve my team, no sense doing it just to shake things up. Kind of a Captn Obvious type answer, but my $0.02

 

Sort of like the old adage "start the players that score the most points," but yeah, there are very rarely teams out there that can't be improved somewhere. And, like I alluded to with injuries and other factors, the "perfect" team one week might be less than perfect the next. In fact, it's not "if" in most cases, it's "when." Every good team (every team, for that matter) is bound to see an injury, sooner or later, during a 16-17 week season. Even if they don't, other things change as well. The guys who are studs in Weeks 1-4 are never the exact same group of players who are studs in Weeks 13-16 (at any position)... too many factors (schedule, weather, momentum, etc.) play a big part in fantasy production.

 

Even in the leagues where my teams are 5-1 or 6-0 (I'm fortunate to have a few of those this year), I'm constantly looking for ways to improve. Example... I have a team where I'm 6-0 (PPR league):

 

QB Ryan/Bradford/Cutler

RB Martin/Powell/Sproles/Richardson

WR Cobb/James Jones/Steve Johnson/Antonio Brown/Kerley

TE Thomas/Cook

K Hartley

 

I keep winning, but I think I've made a waivers transaction each and every week. Obviously, this week, I will probably have to make a couple more, due to my (GB) WR situation. Not saying I'll drop Cobb (since it's a keeper league), but I'll likely have to pick someone up, and decide whether I want to drop a QB, or maybe someone like Richardson (Darryl) or Cook. This team might not be the best example, since it's not filled with studs, necessarily, but believe it or not, I have a pretty decent lead in total points as well. But, again, I'm looking to improve that roster each and every week.

 

If anything, this time of year, I am looking at improving the 5-1 and 6-0 teams even MORE than I am the 1-5 and 2-4 teams. Not that I've given up on the teams that haven't been winning, but they're less likely to make the playoffs, whereas I'm likely to make the playoffs if I'm 5-1 or 6-0 (and I know something is bound to break on those teams sooner or later).

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I usually see the 5-0 or 6-0 team get complacent and miss the playoffs because they don't tinker with their team......I mean if you have Brees or Peyton then sure don't touch that but I would see if certain players are a product of a favorable schedule and try to move them for something that is an upgrade....I don't know why anyone would make a move like what was mentioned above for CJ?k....but you just have to make sensible moves I think...

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The problem with trading is that most owners in my leagues are not willing to trade unless they feel they are on the winning side so it's hard to make anything happen without raping yourself. You have to be clairvoyant and know something about the players the other wouldn't and hope you're right. I'm constantly tinkering with my team with waiver wire pick ups. You have to look forward to bye weeks and backups for potential injuries week to week. Upgrading and changing players on your bench for those rainy weeks, but if you're fortunate and your team is deep and injury free then you only make small tinkers here and there like picking up defenses on on good matchups.

 

I tend to always start my studs unless there is a player on my bench that is outplaying them and has a better matchup. That all being said you should always be looking to make your team better but you better be sure the move you're making is going to help.

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The problem with trading is that most owners in my leagues are not willing to trade unless they feel they are on the winning side so it's hard to make anything happen without raping yourself.

 

 

^ This. I'm always trying to feel out deals that are fair, but improve my team. Mostly the offers fall on deaf ears though.

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I think most owners are reluctant to trade period. Owners fall too in love with where they drafted a guy and become too loyal to those 1st 2nd and 3rd rounders that may not be performing well. No matter where I'm at in the standings I'll entertain any move, but yes I'd be a bit more hesitant to deal if my team is clicking.

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Also, the guy who won my league last year probably made the least amount of moves by far. After the season we were talking and he was saying how he would've almost rather had my team (I lost to him in the finals) because every week it took some strategy to put my lineup together. He basically had his lineup set from week 1 on removing the fun. So really not making any moves when doing well doesn't hurt all the time.

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I don't think it matters whether or not you are 6-0 or 3-3... You should always look to improve your team through trades and the waiver wire. If you have quality depth at a specific position, you should try to package 2 for 1 deals to give someone a quality player you don't really need at the price of upgrading a little elsewhere. The only caveat is that, when I have a team doing really well, I might pay a little more attention to trying to acquire players with an excellent playoff schedule. Or more importantly, make sure you don't have any terrible matchups. This year, for instance, I wouldn't want to have to depend on anyone who is playing in Kansas City or Seattle in weeks 14-16.

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