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I traded for Keenum, went through 2 day veto period and trade went through last night.. I really need him this week. I also had Fleener going to the other team. Now it looks as if the player exchange won't take place because Fleener played last night. I didn't play Fleener he was on my bench. The other team can't put him in. I am going to ask the Commish to manually move the players for this week. Is it fair for me to ask this. I was unaware that Fleener playing would stop the exchange. This has never happened before in our league.

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Veto periods are stupid to begin with. If it's not collusion, the trade should go through immediately.

 

That said, if you do have this waiting period, you should have a rule in place dictating that any trades involving players playing on Thursday night need to be completed before kickoff of that game.

 

If there is no rule, the commish should make an executive decision... and since Keenum has NOT played, you should be able to use him.

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Is if fair, I don't know that a call for your commish and league. Technically you're not doing anything wrong, and the delay was caused by your veto period.

 

But really this should just be common sense, a player whose game has happened cannot be traded (or dropped or added). No different for a Thursday game than it is for all the games on Sunday, it just happens earlier in the week.

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Is if fair, I don't know that a call for your commish and league. Technically you're not doing anything wrong, and the delay was caused by your veto period.

 

But really this should just be common sense, a player whose game has happened cannot be traded (or dropped or added). No different for a Thursday game than it is for all the games on Sunday, it just happens earlier in the week.

 

 

The trade was agreed upon on Tues., it passed the veto period. No one can gain anything from Fleener. Right now we have a vote on the 2 day veto period and it looks like we won't have it next year. I didn't think about it until I saw that the exchange hadn't been made and as much as it hurts to say this it was common sense that made me realize why the players had not been moved, however in this case with no harm coming to anyone I am going to pursue asking the commish to manually make the change.

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That's why a rule needs to be there to cover all situations

 

4.5 Trades

1) Trading among all teams are permitted as long as an act of collusion or roster dumping is not witnessed.

2) Trades are free

3) Trades (Pre-Season) that include your 2014 first rounder will require a 50% ($250) deposit....payments will be allowed but need to be paid in full by Sept. 1st (if money is still owed after Sept. 1st you will not be allowed to make blind bids until paid in full)

4) Trades done during the season will not be processed until the 50% ($250) deposit has been paid in full

5) A trade becomes final once both teams have accepted the terms of the trade. (Note during the PSDL season a trade must involve an equal number of players.)

6) Trades occurring during the PSDL regular

a) Must involve an equal number of players exchanged by both teams.

B) May include future draft picks of only the next calendar year.

c) Trades must be finalized by Friday, 11 PM PST for the players to active in a team’s lineup.

d) Trade deadline during the PSDL regular season shall be the Friday (11:00 PM - Pacific Time) before week "Nine" of the NFL season.

e) No players involved in a trade may be part of another trade for 24 hours after acceptance of the first trade.

7) Trades occurring in the PSDL off-season

a) May involve an unequal number of players exchanged by both teams.

B) May include future draft picks of only the next calendar year.

c) There is no trade deadline during the PSDL off-season.

e) No players involved in a trade may be part of another trade until the commish approves the first trade.

f) Trades can be made 24 hours after game 17 if your $500.00 entry fee has been paid.

8) Protests

a) A trade can be protested by any team not involved in the trade by submitting an e-mail to the league office. If the league office receives 6 e-mails in protest of a trade, a league wide vote will be held regarding the trade in question. The teams involved in the trade will not be allowed to vote on the legitimacy of the trade. A trade must receive 9 votes against the trade to be voided.

Edited by MustOfBeenDrunk
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I guess my question would be, does the other team have another viable TE? I am sure after Fleener having a good game that is who he would want in his lineup and could be a cause for some backlash. If he intends to have Fleener on his bench then I see no reason why you shouldn't be allowed to get Keenum this week. The league website will lock the roster once the game has started but with this trade being accepted on Tuesday and no objections, I would hope your commish puts it through.

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Another thing to keep in mind is will your commish be able to make the move, to accept the trade or otherwise make roster moves that look like a trade. The league management software may not allow it, moving a player from one team to another, even by the commish, once a player has had his game that week may be impossible.

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Another thing to keep in mind is will your commish be able to make the move, to accept the trade or otherwise make roster moves that look like a trade. The league management software may not allow it, moving a player from one team to another, even by the commish, once a player has had his game that week may be impossible.

 

 

True, but the software may inable them to add/subtract points to your score. therefore you may have to leave the roster spot open and have the commish add points (similar to a change in scoring) for the player you would have started if they had been on your roster to start.

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I assume bench points aren't involved in a tie breaker. That wouldn't be fair to include Fleener's points in that case.

 

I wouldn't have allowed the move. Although I did mistakenly approve a trade in a similar fashion this year which lead to other issues. Didn't affect any outcomes and we made it fair but it was a mistake by me.

 

Shouldn't be done unless everyone agrees with it or rules state otherwise.

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Bad decision by the commish. It's your responsibility to know the rules of your league. Ignorance is not a defense. If I was in the league I'd be up in arms about that. It's a dishonest move by the commish.

 

 

I agree with this, except that I don't think I would call it dishonest, just a bad decision in bending league rules unjustifiably.

 

The rules are posted and have basis for reason, it is every owner's responsibility to know and abide by them. It's a dangerous precedent for a commish to override published rules. I'd be willing to bet it will bite him in the ass at some point when somebody else comes along asking for another rule to be ignored and overridden.

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I respect everyone's opinions.Bench points are never used for a tie breaker. There is no written rule in our league for a situation like this. The block in changing players comes from CBS not our league. Fleener's points were not used by any team. Hopefully our vote on the 2 day veto period will put an end to that and trades will go thru as soon as they are agreed upon. If not then this situation brings up something that needs to be addressed with a specific rule. No one in the league has objected to the players being moved, and it is a pretty vocal league.

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I had to wait until all the players unlocked before the trade went through. Almost cost me a win. It was the week Luck played SD on MNF. My opponent only needed 11 points to beat me and I think he got 8. Anyway we did not have the players until the next week.

 

We had to wait because Hakeem Nicks played that Thursday night. I know you think what happened was OK but it does go against the rules of the league and regardless of whether the guy was using Fleener or not it was wrong. What about the other teams in your league that may have had the opp to make a trade during the week but didn't because they knew the rule. I am firmly against changing anything in the middle of the season regardless of how little you may think it affects things.

 

Just one man's opinion.

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Just because you use CBS and CBS has a rule doesn't mean the league has to have that rule.

 

 

 

 

Well that's true but you need to change the rule at the beginning of the year. You can't just change the rules when it suits your needs regardless of what little harm you may think it's doing. Sh1t happens but bottom line it's your fault for not fully understanding the rules and to change something in the middle upsets the integrity of the league.

How do you think the team Scorcher is playing against this week feels about this ruling? I'd be pisssed but that's me.

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