zekez Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I know we've had this discussion before, but couldn't find the old thred (or would have bumped). I am up by 3 points, my opponent is done and I'm done except for my defense (NYG tonight). My worry is that D can score negative points if the opponent scores enough; if WAS puts up a ton of points, I might lose. I was considering benching my D, taking a zero for my D, and locking in a 3 point win. HOWEVER, there are score adjustments every now and then, so it's possibble that what I think is a three point win really isn't. I am electing to do the "right" thing and play my D; we'll see how it plays out. Anyone else ever face this dilemma? If so, what did you do and how did it turn out? BTW - my opponent had Decker on the bench...whew. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Do Work Son Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 You play to win and if you have your matchup locked up then I see no problems with you benching your defense. Its kind of like kneeling on the ball in the 4th quarter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikesVikes Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 You play to win the game. Hello! You play to win the game! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud29 Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 It's not unethical, it's trying to win. It's a very real concern - I agree that's it's like taking a knee in the 4th. Don't want to "get greedy" and have that end up costing you. Stop it there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BA Baracus Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 A three point scoring correction is pretty rare outside of IDP or if your league scoring is odd. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chester Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Totally ethical and nothing to apologize for. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Endzone Is Near Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Why would this be a problem??? You have every right to manage your own team however you feel the need. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delusions of grandeur Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) Will your league software even let you just bench someone for no one? Every site I use either makes you swap for another player (whose games are over and can't be started) or not allow you to submit an incomplete lineup Edited December 2, 2013 by delusions of grandeur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatDude Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 In my cbs league I would lose because my team would be invalid without a player at every spot... So I can't recommend one way or another based on experience. That being said I see no problem doing this... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satelliteoflovegm Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 The problem is with the rules or set-up that would allow it. Probably not right but I'd be more mad at the league then the person. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
millworkguy Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 In one of my leagues we face a 20 point penalty for failing to start a valid line-up Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dont Rookie Me........ Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 In the leagues I am in you have to have a whole line up otherwise it opens doors for lots of chaos. Lets say Im in first and have to opportunity to let a less stellar and lucky team in so I bench all my players and he wins! Benching players is a lame way to go about things play every spot and play to win. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BA Baracus Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 In the leagues I am in you have to have a whole line up otherwise it opens doors for lots of chaos. Lets say Im in first and have to opportunity to let a less stellar and lucky team in so I bench all my players and he wins! Benching players is a lame way to go about things play every spot and play to win. This would be collusion and isn't really applicable to this discussion. The OP is referencing a strategy designed to win his matchup. Intentionally tanking in order to influence seeding or who makes the playoffs is an altogether different animal and is totally whack. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Grey Pilgrim Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I agree the two situations are not exactly the same, but I think not submitting a full lineup intentionally is a cheesy way to go about playing the game. I'm not sure I see a collusion comparison, since the team that pulled their lineup is only trying to secure a more likely winnable scenario. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
zekez Posted December 2, 2013 Author Share Posted December 2, 2013 (edited) So this turned out well for me, wound up getting 6 ponts from the NYG and won by 10. I was a bit worried when WAS put up 14 quick points. In hindsight, I do believe I did the right thing for my team (and the win). As to the "ethical" question - I would have had no issues benching my defense if scoring adjustments were not a possibility. I would have been fine locking in a 3 point win if there was no possibility that there would be stat adjustments for those players that already played. My primary dilemma was whether to risk negative D points or possible stat adjustments. The "ethical" question was just an added question to get some conversation going. Edited December 2, 2013 by zekez Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wubammer Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 I benched my defense a couple years ago, Ironically it was the Giants as well, for the exact same reason. I won bye 3 points and would have lost if I started the D. My opponent at the time went absolutely wild, calling me a coward. To this day he brings it up....a wins a win baby! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted December 2, 2013 Share Posted December 2, 2013 Personally I think it is bogus to not play a full line up for every game (and if necessary your rules should require it). What if your defense played at 1 or 4 on Sunday and got negative points but you could not pull them in time. Using the early result before all games are played to bench guys so you cannot lose just seems weak. And allows a lot of extra luck (which team is done and which isn't). And as a commissioner I would never do this, because I feel I need to be extra ethical or above question. PS I don't think CBS league site would allow this either, I cannot just bench a player and leave the spot empty. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chiroacademy Posted December 3, 2013 Share Posted December 3, 2013 I had it done to me. I thought it was a smart move. It didn't bother me at all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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