NAUgrad Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 I watched a little of Clowney yesterday and he is very good. They doubled him all day and he was constantly in the backfield pushing the LT back into the QB on many occasions. He will be worth the high pick, but I'm just not sure Houston can afford not to draft a QB #1. It is such an issue for them right now the best solution would be to trade down about 3 spots, draft Clowney, then trade back up and get one of the top QB's. They have to address the QB issue early this year as I don't think this team is that far from fighting for home field advantage. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Maybe its just me, but I'm not overly excited about this years draft. Some nice players at QB if you have the need, a LB or two, a couple DE's but beyond that, nothing is screaming at me this year to keep a first rounder or trade up in Dynasties to get that uber stud LB. I might just keep trading down and load up on 4th-8th round fliers or sell them all for FA bidding cash. Its probably just you because you're using a narrow focus of fantasy drafts in dynasty leagues. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Its probably just you because you're using a narrow focus of fantasy drafts in dynasty leagues. Yep, just me :rollseyes: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Yep, just me :rollseyes: Most people in the thread are discussing the draft in general, what teams need now and so on. Your the only one saying it doesn't interest you because there's nobody to jump up for in your dynasty draft. What am I missing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Maybe its just me, but I'm not overly excited about this years draft. Some nice players at QB if you have the need, a LB or two, a couple DE's but beyond that, nothing is screaming at me this year to keep a first rounder or trade up in Dynasties to get that uber stud LB. I might just keep trading down and load up on 4th-8th round fliers or sell them all for FA bidding cash. This is one of the most top-loaded drafts in years. With PLENTY of depth at all positions. Sounds like someone traded away all of his high picks and is now trying to convince himself he made the right moves. Watched Bortles in his bowl game tonight. Didn't impress me as much as Bridgewater did. Made some bad decisions and inaccurate throws - overall he was pretty solid, but really didn't "wow" me much. I think he could work on his throw accuracy a bit, some passes right on the money but he missed some open receivers at times. My guess would be that he goes pro, but I don't think another year of college would be terrible for him. First I saw of Bortles myself and in some regards he reminded me of a VERY poor man's Andrew Luck. Please don't construe that as me saying he's anywhere the prospect Luck was, but he has a lot of the same kinds of tools, size and athletic ability. He's the kind of QB you get into a good system with an excellent QB coach, offensive coordinator and vet QB to learn under, and this kid would be something in 3-4 years. I watched a little of Clowney yesterday and he is very good. They doubled him all day and he was constantly in the backfield pushing the LT back into the QB on many occasions. He will be worth the high pick, but I'm just not sure Houston can afford not to draft a QB #1. It is such an issue for them right now the best solution would be to trade down about 3 spots, draft Clowney, then trade back up and get one of the top QB's. They have to address the QB issue early this year as I don't think this team is that far from fighting for home field advantage. Clowney is the real deal. He may have been overhyped a tad after that monster hit but was a force from day one. And as you mention, this dude has faced double and triple teams for 2 years now. Get this guy in an NFL weight room with NFL conditioning programs and let him run free and he'll be a beast. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MustOfBeenDrunk Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 This is one of the most top-loaded drafts in years. With PLENTY of depth at all positions. Sounds like someone traded away all of his high picks and is now trying to convince himself he made the right moves. I can't speak for Taz , but that is what I did to get Hopkins Will maybe I can grab a sleeper late in the 2nd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 (edited) Just a little somethin' to whet the appetites... Quarterback: You have guys like Bridgewater, Bortles and Carr who look like they're the real deal. You have another mid-level group including Johnny Football, McCarron, Boyd, Mettenberger, Thomas and Murray who could be solid in the right situation with the right seasoning. And then you have a set of sleepers like Fales, Garappolo and Franklin. Deep, with good top-end talent. Running Back: OK so maybe there isn't a set of guys that are sure-fire hits here but the depth is palpable. Plus, the NFL isn't even set up to allow for a sure-fire stud to get all the carries, anyways. Guys that could make quick impacts include Hyde, Sims, Grice and Redd. A TON of sleepers: Gaffney, Perkins and this kid Archer from Kent St. could be huge in the right system. Wide Receiver: Like RB, there's no clear-cut ultra-stud but there are guys with prototypical size/speed that could easily become studs. And plenty of depth here too. Matthews, Street and Hoffman are in the prototypical mold and then you have guys like Abberderis, Herron and Mike Davis that could thrive in the right system. Tight End: Is there a Gronk or Graham in this bunch? Maybe not, but there's surely guys that are as good as Jordan Reed. The kid from Georgia looked great yesterday (Arthur Lynch) and the position is probably 5-6 deep which is decent for a rookie class. Linebacker: Max Bullough is going to be a 100+ tackle guy from the gun, C.J. Mosely is a stud and so is Barr. Depth here too: Skov, Borland, Carson and watch out for Preston Brown from Louisville. Van Noy and Jones could be LB/DL hybrids. DL: Clowney should be a stud and lots of depth. Watch out for Jackson Jeffcoat. Huge potential. DB: Not that they matter much since you can find them late, but there's potential studs in the FSU duo of Joyner and Brooks, and also like Dixon from Baylor and Loston out of LSU. So please, don't tell us this draft class sucks. Because it's frickin' ripe with juicy talent. Edited January 2, 2014 by darin3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Most people in the thread are discussing the draft in general, what teams need now and so on. Your the only one saying it doesn't interest you because there's nobody to jump up for in your dynasty draft. What am I missing? Ignore the post maybe? I dunno. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 Just a little somethin' to whet the appetites... Quarterback: You have guys like Bridgewater, Bortles and Carr who look like they're the real deal. You have another mid-level group including Johnny Football, McCarron, Boyd, Mettenberger, Thomas and Murray who could be solid in the right situation with the right seasoning. And then you have a set of sleepers like Fales, Garappolo and Franklin. Deep, with good top-end talent. Running Back: OK so maybe there isn't a set of guys that are sure-fire hits here but the depth is palpable. Plus, the NFL isn't even set up to allow for a sure-fire stud to get all the carries, anyways. Guys that could make quick impacts include Hyde, Sims, Grice and Redd. A TON of sleepers: Gaffney, Perkins and this kid Archer from Kent St. could be huge in the right system. Wide Receiver: Like RB, there's no clear-cut ultra-stud but there are guys with prototypical size/speed that could easily become studs. And plenty of depth here too. Matthews, Street and Hoffman are in the prototypical mold and then you have guys like Abberderis, Herron and Mike Davis that could thrive in the right system. Tight End: Is there a Gronk or Graham in this bunch? Maybe not, but there's surely guys that are as good as Jordan Reed. The kid from Georgia looked great yesterday (Arthur Lynch) and the position is probably 5-6 deep which is decent for a rookie class. Linebacker: Max Bullough is going to be a 100+ tackle guy from the gun, C.J. Mosely is a stud and so is Barr. Depth here too: Skov, Borland, Carson and watch out for Preston Brown from Louisville. Van Noy and Jones could be LB/DL hybrids. DL: Clowney should be a sttud and lots of depth. Watch out for Jackson Jeffcoat. Huge potential. DB: Not that they matter much since you can find them late, but there's potential studs in the FSU duo of Joyner and Brooks, and also like Dixon from Baylor and Loston out of LSU. So please, don't tell us this draft class sucks. Because it's frickin' ripe with juicy talent. After all these years Darin, you more than anybody else should know I do my yearly draft diss to maybe convince SOMEBODY that they don't need that 1st round draft choice :ugh: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 After all these years Darin, you more than anybody else should know I do my yearly draft diss to maybe convince SOMEBODY that they don't need that 1st round draft choice :ugh: You really think you were duping anyone in any of your leagues with that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted January 2, 2014 Share Posted January 2, 2014 You really think you were duping anyone in any of your leagues with that? All I need is one!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted January 3, 2014 Author Share Posted January 3, 2014 You probably know some if not most/all by now, but following have declared for the draft: QB Bridgewater DE Clowney WR Robinson WR Evans WR Cooks miss anyone? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted January 3, 2014 Share Posted January 3, 2014 You probably know some if not most/all by now, but following have declared for the draft: QB Bridgewater DE Clowney WR Robinson WR Evans WR Cooks miss anyone? Davante Adams – WR, Fresno State Jace Amaro – TE, Texas Tech Dion Bailey – S, USC Kapri Bibbs – RB, Colorado State Russell Bodine – C, North Carolina Chris Boyd – WR, Vanderbilt Brandon Coleman – WR, Rutgers Isaiah Crowell – RB, Alabama State Jonathan Dowling – S, Western Kentucky Dominique Easley – DE, Florida Eric Ebron – TE, North Carolina Austin Franklin – WR, New Mexico State Vic Hampton – CB, South Carolina A.C. Leonard – TE, Tennessee State Kameron Jackson – CB, California Anthony Johnson - DT, LSU Demarcus Lawrence – DE, Boise State Colt Lyerla – TE, Oregon Aaron Lynch – DE, USF Marcus Martin – OG/C, USC Adam Muema – RB, San Diego State Jake Murphy – TE, Utah Louis Nix III – DT, Notre Dame Calvin Pryor – S, Louisville Loucheiz Purifoy – CB, Florida Kelcy Quarles - DT, South Carolina Antonio Richardson – OT, Tennessee Paul Richardson – WR, Colorado Bradley Roby – CB, Ohio State Richard Rogers – TE, California Bishop Sankey – RB, Washington Austin Seferian-Jenkins – TE, Washington Yawin Smallwood – ILB, UConn Brett Smith – QB, Wyoming Jerome Smith – RB, Syracuse George Uko – DT, USC Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud29 Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Saw Sammy Watkins tonight, and wow he's a stud. 222 yds and a TD, even with an injured knee he had incredible acceleration. It's been said before, I hope he doesn't end up in a bad situation like Hopkins did. An additional piece of info, I believe Watkins tied Hopkins' record for career TD receptions at Clemson this game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 Saw Sammy Watkins tonight, and wow he's a stud. 222 yds and a TD, even with an injured knee he had incredible acceleration. It's been said before, I hope he doesn't end up in a bad situation like Hopkins did. An additional piece of info, I believe Watkins tied Hopkins' record for career TD receptions at Clemson this game. Absolutely. Buffed by an atrocious secondary missing its best player, but he's going to get a buck and a half all day anyway in that game. I haven't seen him work downfield much, so I don't know about his ball skills, but man is he a slasher. Detroit would be outstanding, Baltimore wouldn't suck. He probably goes much earlier than those though, and I wouldn't mind Cleveland if they are smart/lucky with taking a 2nd tier QB. Oakland could surprise too, he's a guy you want to get the ball to early, and being that Terrell Prior can't get the ball farther downfield than 7 yards, that might even work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted January 4, 2014 Share Posted January 4, 2014 New additions: Damian Copeland - WR, Louisville Scott Crichton - DE, Oregon State Bruce Ellington - WR, South Carolina Ego Ferguson - DT, LSU Khairi Fortt - LB, California Marquise Lee - WR, USC Terrance Mitchell - CB, Oregon Marcus Roberson - CB, Florida Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted January 4, 2014 Author Share Posted January 4, 2014 Cool, thx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Odell Beckham -WR, LSU Blake Bortles - QB, UCF Bashaud Breeland - S, Clemson Martavis Bryant - WR, Clemson Kony Ealy – DE, Missouri Storm Johnson - RB, UCF Jarvis Landry - WR, LSU Cody Latimer - WR, Indiana Marqise Lee – WR, USC Donte Moncrief - WR, Ole Miss Ronald Powell - DE, Florida Darrin Reaves - RB, UAB Lache Seastrunk - RB, Baylor Ryan Shazier - LB, Ohio State Brett Smith – QB, Wyoming[ Xavier Su'a-Filo – OG, UCLA De'Anthony Thomas - WR, Oregon[ Stephon Tuitt - DE, Notre Dame Sammy Watkins - WR, Clemson Terrance West - RB, Towson Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Since I'm bored... Odell Beckham -WR, LSU - Better playmaker than Landry but could be overhyped. Blake Bortles - QB, UCF - Overrated. Not saying he's the next Blaine Gabbert if he's thrown to the fire I see a coach/GM getting fired within 2-3 years. Bashaud Breeland - S, Clemson Martavis Bryant - WR, Clemson - Bigger than Watkins (and Hopkins) but less dynamic. Could be a red zone threat. Kony Ealy – DE, Missouri - Mizzou has been churning out some good DL/LB guys. This guy could be a sack monster. Storm Johnson - RB, UCF - Oftentimes looked like the star of the UCF offense rather than Bortles. Could flourish in the right system under the right tutelage. Jarvis Landry - WR, LSU - Not flashy, but deceptively quick/fast and could be a nice WR sleeper in the right system. Cody Latimer - WR, Indiana - Hightly productive on a bad team with bad/changing QBs. Sleeper. Big time. Marqise Lee – WR, USC - Cream of the WR crop if you ask me. On the right team he could be an instant hit. Donte Moncrief - WR, Ole Miss - Good size and could be a reliable WR3 in a few years. Ronald Powell - DE, Florida Darrin Reaves - RB, UAB Lache Seastrunk - RB, Baylor - Pass. He's not built to handle any kind of load at the NFL level. Great straightaway speed but lacks vision through the hole. Ryan Shazier - LB, Ohio State Brett Smith – QB, Wyoming - Do NOT sleep on this guy. Once the "big" QB names go, grab this guy as his ceiling is just as high. Xavier Su'a-Filo – OG, UCLA De'Anthony Thomas - WR, Oregon - Pass. WR? RB? Someone will bite as a gadget guy but will suck in terms of fantasy. Dexter McCluster, anyone? Stephon Tuitt - DE, Notre Dame Sammy Watkins - WR, Clemson - Beast and neck and neck with Lee in terms of being the marquee WR. If he lands on the right team (Jets?) he'll produce instant results. Terrance West - RB, Towson The WR class is f'ing ridiculous. FYI. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 The WR class is f'ing ridiculous. FYI. Yep, and Benjamin hasn't even declared. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 He sure didnt help his stock last night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 He sure didnt help his stock last night. Benjamin? Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bud29 Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 (edited) Benjamin? Really? He had several drops which really stung. Since he caught that TD though, most of that has been forgotten. Sharpen his skills just a bit and you have yourself a stud. At 6'6", the guy looked like a freaking tree compared to the smaller DBs. Edited January 8, 2014 by bud29 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DMD Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 De'Anthony Thomas - WR, Oregon - Pass. WR? RB? Someone will bite as a gadget guy but will suck in terms of fantasy. Dexter McCluster, anyone? If you watch youtube, there are a ton of clips there with Thomas looking unbelievable. But yeah, he is 170 and the list is long of short speedy guys that never translate to the NFL. I read where some think Thomas falls to the 7th round. Have to think Chip Kelly would consider him for special teams at least. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gspot Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 My bad then, but Young still wasn't the prospect Bridgewater is and Clowney appears riskier than Wms did. No question. IMO, Clowney will be a huge bust, as outside of the one play that kept being shown over and over, he was completely asbsent in many games, taking plays off, not showing a high "motor". He does have freakish athletic ability, but those players are often busts. If I was a NFL scout, I would want to see more game impact on tape before I took a player like this that high. Manziell going in the first round is just crazy! If Minnesota takes him that high, they deserve the next 10 years of poor team performance they will get. Just my $.02. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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