cadycadets Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 How do they score that?? Antonio Brown had 55 rushing yards on it. Does he get credit in fantasy for it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) It's recorded as receiving yards and is in his total of 137 yards. 4-4-PIT 26 (:03) (Shotgun) B.Roethlisberger pass deep right to E.Sanders to PIT 33 for 7 yards. Lateral to A.Brown ran ob at MIA 12 for 55 yards. Edited December 10, 2013 by keggerz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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HowboutthemCowboys Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 It's recorded as receiving yards and is in his total of 137 yards. 4-4-PIT 26 (:03) (Shotgun) B.Roethlisberger pass deep right to E.Sanders to PIT 33 for 7 yards. Lateral to A.Brown ran ob at MIA 12 for 55 yards. if I understand it correctly, Ben gets 88 yds passing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
faceplant Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 if I understand it correctly, Ben gets 88 yds passing? 7 + 55 = 62 right? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 if I understand it correctly, Ben gets 88 yds passing? nope... 7 + 55 = 62 right? Yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 nope... Yep yep, my fault. Still stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BA Baracus Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 yep, my fault. Still stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 you don't think it's stupid if a QB throws a 10 yd pass then after several laterals they get say 90 and the QB gets credit for all 90? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Brown wasn't the only player to have the ball lateraled to him on that play either, pretty sure Ben got 80 some yds out of it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BA Baracus Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Your post just made me laugh man. To the point. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 you don't think it's stupid if a QB throws a 10 yd pass then after several laterals they get say 90 and the QB gets credit for all 90? It's not much different from him throwing a 10 yard pass then after no laterals they get say 90 and the QB gets credit for all 90. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 It's not much different from him throwing a 10 yard pass then after no laterals they get say 90 and the QB gets credit for all 90. different if I throw it to you and you go 90 than if I throw it you and it gets latereled 9 times along the way Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 different if I throw it to you and you go 90 than if I throw it you and it gets latereled 9 times along the way Not sure I see why. You threw it 10 yards in both cases. Some number of people then took it the other 80 - perhaps breaking tackles, perhaps using blazing speed, perhaps junking them out of their socks. What's the difference? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 different if I throw it to you and you go 90 than if I throw it you and it gets latereled 9 times along the way Because it starts as a passing play is why all the yards are considered receiving yards. IF there had been a fumble on one of the laterals and then it was picked up all yards from that point forward wouldn't be receiving yards, they'd be fumble return yards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 (edited) Brown wasn't the only player to have the ball lateraled to him on that play either, pretty sure Ben got 80 some yds out of it I'd have to re-watch it but I think that the other laterals either didn't run for positive yards or were immediate laterals. Edited December 10, 2013 by keggerz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I'd have to re-watch it but I think that the other laterals either didn't run for positive yards or were immediate laterals. salt in the wound is Bens lateral to Brown looked forward in real time...haven't seen a replay Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 salt in the wound is Bens lateral to Brown looked forward in real time...haven't seen a replay I thought so too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alexgaddis Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Should have been flagged for an illegal forward pass by Big Ben Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easy n Dirty Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 It's recorded as receiving yards and is in his total of 137 yards. 4-4-PIT 26 (:03) (Shotgun) B.Roethlisberger pass deep right to E.Sanders to PIT 33 for 7 yards. Lateral to A.Brown ran ob at MIA 12 for 55 yards. Sort of unfair to those unfortunate few of us who were forced into starting Sanders this week - the pass to Sanders looked like it was for about 20+ yards, but I gather from what you are saying here that Sanders' receiving yards are being dinged for the subsequent negative 15 yards worth of laterals. Not sure if there's a better way of doing it - I guess someone has to get charged for those yards. Would be really unfair if it was a 2-yard hitch which after laterals ends up being a play for negative 15 yards or something - we've all seen that happen. I wonder if in that case Sanders would be charged negative receiving yards? Price I pay I guess for having such a weak receiving corps that I'm starting Sanders in the first place. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Because it starts as a passing play is why all the yards are considered receiving yards. IF there had been a fumble on one of the laterals and then it was picked up all yards from that point forward wouldn't be receiving yards, they'd be fumble return yards. And the TD would be the dreaded offensive return TD, which some leagues may not be scoring (intentionally or not). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Should have been flagged for an illegal forward pass by Big Ben If he didn't step OB and scored a TD they would have been able to review that (I believe). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keggerz Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 Sort of unfair to those unfortunate few of us who were forced into starting Sanders this week - the pass to Sanders looked like it was for about 20+ yards, but I gather from what you are saying here that Sanders' receiving yards are being dinged for the subsequent negative 15 yards worth of laterals. Not sure if there's a better way of doing it - I guess someone has to get charged for those yards. Would be really unfair if it was a 2-yard hitch which after laterals ends up being a play for negative 15 yards or something - we've all seen that happen. I wonder if in that case Sanders would be charged negative receiving yards? Price I pay I guess for having such a weak receiving corps that I'm starting Sanders in the first place. I'm not sure where Sanders was...I'll have to look at it on the All-22 when I get a chance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Easy n Dirty Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I'm not sure where Sanders was...I'll have to look at it on the All-22 when I get a chance. Play started at the 26 yard line. Sanders caught the pass on the 38-yard line (pass looked longer because Roethlisberger took a deep drop) and then ran it up to the 45-yard line before lateraling. +19 yards before he threw the first lateral. Subsequent laterals took it essentially back to the original line of scrimmage, where Roethlisberger took it, ran up to about the 33 and then "lateraled" to Brown. Brown took it at the 33 and was ruled out of bounds at the Miami 12, which accounts for the 55 yards which are being credited to him. Seems there could be a number of different ways to score this play. If your original quote was correct, then it seems Sanders is being credited for all net yardage from the line of scrimmage to the point where the last lateral was caught by Brown. I suppose there are arguments to give more yards to Sanders or even to give some yards to Roethlisberger, who advanced the ball 6 or 7 yards between when he received his lateral and when he tossed it over to Brown - but I'm not sure what you would do with the intervening negative yardage in that case. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted December 10, 2013 Share Posted December 10, 2013 I'm of the opinion that Bens passing yds should stop when the pass catcher 1st laterals...it's all rushing yds from there. and yes,Im aware that no one really cares what my opinion is, but the way it's scored now is stupid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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