Official official 2014 NFL combine thread

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Player School Position Camp No.Jared Abbrederis Wisconsin WR WO01Davante Adams* Fresno State WR WO02Maurice Alexander Utah State DB DB01Ricardo Allen Purdue DB DB02Jace Amaro* Texas Tech TE TE01Antonio Andrews Western Kentucky RB RB01Dri Archer Kent St. RB RB02Matthew Armstrong Grand Valley State OL OL01Jeremiah Attaochu Georgia Tech LB LB01Dion Bailey USC DB DB03Anthony Barr UCLA LB LB02Lamin Barrow LSU LB LB03Odell Beckham Jr. LSU WR WO03Deion Belue Alabama DB DB04Kelvin Benjamin* Florida State WR WR05Bene' Benwikere San Jose St DB DB05Natneal Berhe San Diego St DB DB06Kapri Bibbs* Colorado St RB RB04Joel Bitonio Nevada OL OL02Robert Branchflower UMass TE TE02Alfred Blue LSU RB RB05Russell Bodine* UNC OL OL03Conor Boffeli Iowa OL OL04Chris Borland Wisconsin LB LB04Blake Bortles* Central Florida QB QB01Tre Boston UNC DB DB07Chris Boswell Rice PK PK01Christopher Boyd* Vanderbilt WR WO05Tajh Boyd Clemson QB QB02Carl Bradford Arizona State LB LB05Bashaud Breeland* Clemson DB DB08Teddy Bridgewater* Louisville QB QB03Justin Britt Missouri OL OL05Jay Bromley Syracuse DL DL01Terrence Brooks Florida State DB DB09Corey Brown Ohio State WR WO06John Brown Pittsburg St.-Kan. WR WO07Jonathan Brown Illinois LB LB06Preston Brown Louisville LB LB07Martavis Bryant* Clemson WR WO08Deone Bucannon Washington St. DB DB10Max Bullough Michigan St. LB LB08Isaiah Burse Fresno St WR WO09Trey Burton Florida TE TE03Michael Campanaro Wake Forest WR WO10Ka'Deem Carey* Arizona RB RB06Derek Carr Fresno St. QB QB04Ryan Carrethers Arkansas St. DL DL02T.J. Carrie Ohio DB DB11Steven Clark Auburn PK PK02William Clarke West Virginia DL DL03Ha Ha Clinton-Dix* Alabama DB DB12Jadeveon Clowney* South Carolina DL DL04Ross Cockrell Duke DB DB13Brandon Coleman* Rutgers WR WO11Deandre Coleman California DL DL05Kain Colter Northerwester WR WO12Aaron Colvin Oklahoma DB DB14Brandin Cooks* Oregon St WO WO13Damian Copeland Louisville WR WO14J.C. Copeland LSU RB RB07Tim Cornett UNLV RB RB08Scott Crichton* Oregon St. DL DL06Isaiah Crowell* Alabama St. RB RB09Chris Davis Auburn DB DB15Mike Davis Texas WR WO15Anthony Denham Utah TE TE04Darqueze Dennard Michigan St. DB DB16Pierre Desir Lindenwood DB DB17Ahmad Dixon Baylor DB DB18Brandon Dixon Northwest Missouri St DB DB19Aaron Donald Pittsburgh DL DL07Jonathan Dowling* Western Kentucky DB DB20Dakota Dozier Furman OL OL06Joe Don Duncan Dixie TE TE05Kony Ealy* Missouri DL DL08Dominique Easley* Florida DL DL09Eric Ebron* UNC TE TE06Kasim Edebali Boston College DL DL10Kadeem Edwards Tennessee St. OL OL07Bruce Ellington* South Carolina WR WO16Justin Ellis Louisiana Tech DL DL11I.K. Enemkpali Louisiana Tech DL DL12Quincy Enunwa Nebraska WR WO17Mike Evans* Texas A&M WO WO18Shaq Evans UCLA WO WO19Antone Exum Virginia Tech DB DB21David Fales San Jose St QB QB05Matt Feiler Bloomsburg OL OL08Anthony Fera Texas PK PK03Ego Ferguson* LSU DL DL13C.J. Fiedorowicz Iowa TE TE07Timothy Flanders Sam Houston St RB RB10Cameron Fleming* Stanford OL OL09David Fluellen Toledo RB RB11Dee Ford Auburn DL DL14Khairi Fortt* California LB LB09Bennie Fowler Michigan St WR WO20Austin Franklin* New Mexico St WR WR21Devonta Freeman* Florida St RB RB12Kyle Fuller Virginia Tech DB DB22Zach Fulton Tennessee OL OL10Tyler Gaffney Stanford RB RB13E.J. Gaines Missouri DB DB23Phillip Gaines Rice DB DB24Jeremy Gallon Michigan WR WO22Jimmy Garoppolo Eastern Illinois QB QB06James Gayle Virginia Tech DL DL15Jeremiah George Iowa St LB LB10Justin Gilbert Oklahoma St DB DB25Crockett Gillmore Colorado State TE TE08Demetri Goodson Baylor DB DB26Ryan Grant Tulane WR WO23Marion Grice Arizona St RB RB14Xavier Grimble* USC TE TE09Ryan Groy Wisconsin OL OL11Ra'Shede Hageman Minnesota DL DL16Dre Hal Vanderbilt DB DB27Jonathan Halapio Florida OL OL12Vic Hampton* South Carolina DB DB28Jonotthan Harrison Florida OL OL13Taylor Hart Oregon DL DL17Matt Hazel Coastal Carolina WR WO24Marcus Heit Kansas St ST ST01Seantrel Henderson Miami (Fla.) OL OL14Robert Herron Wyoming WR WO25Ryan Hewitt Stanford RB RB15Jeremy Hill* LSU RB RB16Anthony Hitchens Iowa LB LB11Zach Hocker Arkansas PK PK04Cody Hoffman BYU Wr WO26Thomas Hornsey Memphis PK PK05Adrian Hubbard Alabama LB LB12Josh Huff Oregon WR WO27Marqueston Huff Wyoming DB DB29Allen Hurns Miami (Fla.) WR WO28James Hurst UNC OL OL15Carlos Hyde Ohio St RB RB17Kerry Hyder Texas Tech DL DL18Gabe Ikard Oklahoma OL OL16Drew Jackson Western Kentucky LB LB13Bennett Jackson Notre Dame DB DB30Gabe Jackson Mississippi St OL Ol17Nic Jacobs McNeese St TE TE10Ja'Wuan James Tennessee OL OL18Kendall James Maine DB DB31Jeff Janis Saginaw Valley St WR WO29Stan Jean-Baptiste Nebraska DB DB32Jackson Jeffcoat Texas DL DL19Marcel Jensen Fresno St TE TE11Timmy Jernigan* Florida St DL DL20Anthony Johnson* LSU DL DL21Dontae Johnson North Carolina St DB DB33Wesley Johnson Vanderbilt OL OL19Storm Johnson* UCF RB RB18Christian Jones Florida St LB LB14Daquan Jones Penn St DL DL22Howard Jones Shepherd DL DL23T.J. Jones Notre Dame WR WO30Reggie Jordan Missouri Western St TE TE12Henry Josey* Missouri RB RB19Lamarcus Joyner Florida St DB DB34Devon Kennard USC LB LB15Zach Kerr Delaware DL DL24Chris Kirksey Iowa LB LB16Cyrus Kouandjio* Alabama OL OL20Kenny Ladler Vanderbilt DB DB35Jarvis Landry* LSU WR WO31Tyler Larsen Utah St OL OL21Cody Latimer Indiana WR Wo32Demarcus Lawrence Boise St DL DL25Nevo Lawson Utah St DB DB36Marqise Lee USC WR WO33Charles Leno Boise St OL OL22A.C. Leonard Tennessee St TE TE13Richard Leone Houston PK PK06Taylor Lewan Michigan OL OL23Isaiah Lewis Michigan St DB DB37Brandon Linder Miami (Fla.) OL OL24Corey Linsley Ohio St OL OL25Boseko Lokombo Oregon LB LB17Spencer Long Nebraska OL OL26Craig Loston LSU DB DB38Cornelius Lucas Kansas St OL OL27Marcus Lucas Missouri WR WO34Colt Lyerla* Oregon TE TE14Aaron Lynch* South Florida DL DL26Arthur Lynch Georgia TE TE15Jordan Lynch Northern Illinois QB QB07Khalil Mack Buffalo LB LB18Cody Mandell Alabama PK PK07Eathyn Manumaleuna BYU DL DL27Johnny Manziel* Texas A&M QB QB08Cassius Marsh UCLA DL DL28Kareem Martin UNC DL DL29Marcus Martin* USC OL OL28Zack Martin Notre Dame OL OL29Tre Mason* Auburn RB RB20Jeff Mathews Cornell QB QB09Jake Matthews Texas A&M OL OL30Jordan Matthews Vanderbilt WR WO35Josh Mauro Stanford DL DL30AJ McCarron Alabama QB QB10Dan McCullers Tennessee DL DL31Dex McDougle Maryland DB DB39Keith McGill Utah DB DB40Jerick McKinnon Georgia Southern RB RB21Zach Mettenberger LSU QB QB11Jack Mewhort Ohio St OL OL31Trey Millard Oklahoma RB RB22Tevin Mims South Florida DL DL32Terrance Mitchell* Oregon DB DB41Donte Moncrief* Ole Miss WR WO36Zach Moore Concordia-SP DL DL33James Morris Iowa LB LB19Stephen Morris Miami (Fla.) QB QB12Morgan Moses Virginia OL OL32C.J. Mosley Alabama LB LB20Adam Muema* San Diego St RB RB23Jake Murphy* Utah TE TE16Trent Murphy Stanford LB LB21Aaron Murray Georgia QB QB13Jordan Najvar Baylor TE TE17Jonathan Newsome Ball St DL DL34Troy Niklas* Notre Dame TE TE18Louis Nix III Notre Dame DL DL35Kevin Norwood Alabama WR WO37Pat O'Donnell Miami (Fla.) PK PK08Jeoffrey Pagan* Alabama DL DL36Tenny Palepoi Utah DL DL37Matt Paradis Boise St OL OL33Matt Patchan Boston College OL OL34Jake Pedersen Wisconsin TE TE19Mike Pennel Colorado St.-Pueblo DL DL38Ladarius Perkins Mississippi St RB RB24Kevin Pierre-Louis Boston College LB LB22Ronald Powell* Florida LB LB23Walt Powell Murray St WR WO38Jabari Price UNC DB DB42Calvin Pryor* Louisville DB DB43Loucheiz Purifoy* Florida DB DB44Kelcy Quarles* South Carolina DL DL39Kaleb Ramsey Boston College DL DL40Keith Reaser Florida Atlantic DB DB45Silas Redd USC RB RB25Tevin Reese Baylor WR WO39Caraun Reid Princeton DL DL41Trevor Reilly Utah LB LB24Bryn Renner UNC QB QB14Ed Reynolds* Stanford DB DB46Rashaad Reynolds Oregon St DB DB47Antonio Richardson* Tennessee OL OL35Cyril Richardson Baylor OL OL36Paul Richardson* Colorado WR WO40Weston Richburg Colorado St. OL OL37Marcus Roberson* Florida DB DB48Allen Robinson* Penn St WR WO41Greg Robinson* Auburn OL OL38Bradley Roby* Ohio St DB DB49Richard Rodgers* California TE TE20Michael Sam Missouri DL DL42Bishop Sankey* Washington RB RB26Cairo Santos Tulane PK PK09Jalen Saunders Oklahoma WR WO42Tom Savage Pittsburgh QB QB15Michael Schofield Michigan OL OL39Lache Seastrunk* Baylor RB RB27Austin Seferian-Jenkins* Washington TE TE21Connor Shaw South Carolina QB QB16Ryan Shazier* Ohio St LB LB25Prince Shembo Notre Dame LB LB26Charles Sims West Virginia RB RB28Shayne Skov Stanford LB LB27Yawin Smallwood* Connecticut LB LB28Chris Smith Arkansas DL DL43Jerome Smith* Syracuse RB RB29Marcus Smith Louisville DL DL44Telvin Smith Florida St LB LB29Willie Snead* Ball St WR WO43Daniel Sorensen BYU DB DB50Dez Southward Wisconsin DB DB51Tyler Starr South Dakota LB LB30Anthony Steen Alabama OL OL40Shamar Stephen Connecticut DL DL45Josh Stewart* Oklahoma St WR WO44Ed Stinson Alabama DL DL46James Stone Tennessee OL OL41Bryan Stork Florida St OL OL42Devin Street Pittsburgh WR WO45Xavier Su'a-Filo UCLA OL OL43Vinnie Sunseri Alabama DB DB52Will Sutton Arizona St. DL DL47Travis Swanson Arkansas OL OL44Lorenzo Taliaferro Coastal Carolina RB RB30Brandon Thomas Clemson OL OL45De'Anthony Thomas Oregon RB RB31Jemea Thomas Georgia Tech DB DB53Logan Thomas Virginia Tech QB QB17Robert Thomas Arkansas DL DL48Khyri Thornton Southern Mississippi DL DL49D.J. Tialavea Utah St TE TE22Jordie Tripp Montana LB LB31Stephon Tuitt* Notre Dame DL DL50Trai Turner LSU OL OL46Billy Turner North Dakota St OL OL47George Uko* USC DL DL51Uani Unga BYU LB LB32Brent Urban Virginia DL DL52John Urschel Penn St OL OL48Kyle Van Noy BYU LB LB33Dustin Vaughan West Texas A&M QB QB18Brock Vereen Minnesota DB DB54Jason Verrett TCU DB DB55Jimmie Ward Northern Illinois DB DB56L'Damian Washington Missouri WR WO46Todd Washington SE Louisiana DB DB57Jaylen Watkins Florida DB DB58Sammy Watkins* Clemson WR WO47Chris Watt Notre Dame OL OL49Larry Webster Bloomsburg DL DL53Keith Wenning Ball St QB QB19Terrance West* Towson RB RB32Ethan Westbrooks West Texas A&M DL DL54Lavelle Westbrooks Georgia Southern DB DB59Chris Whaley Texas DL DL55James White Wisconsin RB RB33James Wilder Jr. Florida St RB RB34Andre Williams Boston College RB RB35Damien Williams Oklahoma RB RB36Avery Williamson Kentucky LB LB34Albert Wilson Georgia State WR WO48Kerry Wynn Richmond DL DL56David Yankey* Stanford OL OL50Jordan Zumwalt UCLA LB LB35

 

 

this board really needs to address formatting options.

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Guys I'm particularly interested in:

 

Jared Abbrederis Wisconsin WR WO01 - This guy could be Wes Welker, or just another white WR.

Davante Adams* Fresno State WR WO02 - Product of his system, or possible stud?

Jace Amaro* Texas Tech TE TE01 - Could be the next "stud" TE.

Antonio Andrews Western Kentucky RB RB01 - Has been lumped with the "likely stud" RBs on a few lists. I want to see how fast he really is.

Anthony Barr UCLA LB LB02 - I suspect he puts up insane numbers, which will nearly guarantee him of a top-5 slotting.

Odell Beckham Jr. LSU WR WO03 - Need to see a] how fast he really is and b] if he's got a little strength behind him+

Kelvin Benjamin* Florida State WR WR05 - I'm interested to see what his 40 time really is and some of the agility drills. I'm concerned he's on the Fat Mike Williams Fence

Alfred Blue LSU RB RB05 - Totally lost in the LSU RB shuffle, but I think he's got talent.

Blake Bortles* Central Florida QB QB01 - Really? 1.01? Some experts mock him here. He's going to need to shine at the Combine.

Preston Brown Louisville LB LB07 - Don't ever say I never gave y'all anything. He'll test well and can be a stud. Here's your Kiko Alonso of 2014.

Martavis Bryant* Clemson WR WO08 - Some think he's too stiff and lumbery, some think he's super-dynamic. Kind of polarizing thoughts out there, so I want to see him run.

Max Bullough Michigan St. LB LB08 - Consummate "QB of the defense". Has the head for the game, but does he have the physical measurables?

Ka'Deem Carey* Arizona RB RB06 - Most outlets have him as RB1, others don't even list him in the top-10. Gotta be a reason for the polarity. if he runs good and shows good agility, he has to be the 1st fantasy RB taken in rookie drafts.

Ha Ha Clinton-Dix* Alabama DB DB12 - Seriously, Ha Ha? What, was "ROFL" already taken? OK really, this guy is going to be a monster DB regardless of where he goes. Just curious to see what kind of sick measurables he puts out there.

Brandin Cooks* Oregon St WO WO13 - Product of system? Tavon Austin? Or is he actually a polished WR?

Isaiah Crowell* Alabama St. RB RB09 - If we're talking talent alone, Crowell probably deserves to be in the top 3 or 4 RBs. A great combine will make his stock soar.

Kony Ealy* Missouri DL DL08 - Along with that Michael Sam guy, was a big part of the Mizzou defense. Could be a sleeper if he tests well.

Devonta Freeman* Florida St RB RB12 - This RB class is deep. A good combine will catapult Freeman into the upper tier since he's really knocking on the door already.

Jimmy Garoppolo Eastern Illinois QB QB06 - Really, how much more can his stock rise? He's now a fringe early 2nd/late 1st kind of guy. A good combine could assure him of being in the 1st with so many teams needing a QB.

Marion Grice Arizona St RB RB14 - Another shifty, good pass-catching back that is flying under the radar. A good combine will put him on everyone's map.

Jackson Jeffcoat Texas DL DL19 - Actually had a semi-decent career at UT but largely though to be a waste of talent. Could have a chip on his shoulder and will want to put up good combine #s.

Storm Johnson* UCF RB RB18 - Kind of in the Marion Grice category, although he's more of a traditional banger than Swiss army knife kind of RB.

Henry Josey* Missouri RB RB19 - Super deep sleeper who will appear on teams' radars with a good showing at the combine.

Chris Kirksey Iowa LB LB16 - Not quite as studly as Bullough but has a lot of the same positive points.

Jarvis Landry* LSU WR WO31 - Some outlets like him better than Beckham, Jr. Others think his ceiling is limited.

Arthur Lynch Georgia TE TE15 - Tony Gonzalez or Jimmy Graham he is not, but something intrigues me here. Poor man's Jason Witten, maybe.

Khalil Mack Buffalo LB LB18 - In the same camp as Barr. Uber-stud.

Johnny Manziel* Texas A&M QB QB08 - Do you live under a rock?

Jordan Matthews Vanderbilt WR WO35 - Smooth as silk, but does he have a turbo engine or just a 4-banger?....

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will update tomorrow night...

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Schedule

 

Wednesday, Feb. 19

• PK/ST/OL/TE medical pre-exam and X-rays, orientation, interviews

 

Thursday, Feb. 20

• PK/ST/OL/TE measurements, medical exams, media, interviews

• QB/WR/RB medical pre-exam and X-rays, orientation, interviews

 

Friday, Feb. 21

• PK/ST workout; PK/ST/OL/TE bench press, psychological testing, interviews

• QB/WR/RB measurements, medical exams, media, interviews

• DL/LB medical pre-exam and X-rays, orientation, interviews

 

Saturday, Feb. 22

• OL/TE on-field workout (timing, stations, skill drills)

• QB/WR/RB psychological testing, bench press, interviews

• DL/LB measurements, medical exams, media, interviews

• DB medical pre-exam and X-rays, orientation, interviews

 

Sunday, Feb. 23

• QB/WR/RB on-field workout (timing, stations, skill drills)

• DL/LB psychological testing, bench press, interviews

• DB measurements, medical exams, media, interviews

 

Monday, Feb. 24

• DL/LB on-field workout (timing, stations, skill drills)

• DB psychological testing, bench press, interviews

 

Tuesday, Feb. 25

• DB on-field workout (timing, stations, skill drills)

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AJ McCarron Alabama QB QB10 - his reluctance to take part in the Senior Bowl has me worried. I think he's nothing more than an NFL backup (at best).

 

Zach Mettenberger LSU QB QB11 - pure pocket passer could really thrive in the right system and/or under the right veteran QB. His shredded-up knee is obviously of concern.

 

Donte Moncrief* Ole Miss WR WO36 - was on my radar this time last year but hasn't really jumped off the screen for me. Will be interested to see what his workouts look like. Could be a sleeper.

 

C.J. Mosley Alabama LB LB20 - Is this guy Rolando McClain? I hope not, he looks good on film.

 

Aaron Murray Georgia QB QB13 - This time last year he looked like a solid pro prospect. Not so sure right now.

 

Kevin Norwood Alabama WR WO37 - Stood out to me at the Senior Bowl. Flew under the radar at Alabama as their WR2. Could impress.

 

Silas Redd USC RB RB25 - Kind of like Isaiah Crowell without the off-field issues. As in, where did this guy disappear to? Will have to shine at Combine to move up the board.

 

Bryn Renner UNC QB QB14 - Strikes me as the kind of QB that could really kick ass at the Combine and make it as a later-round pick.

 

Paul Richardson* Colorado WR WO40 - There's been buzz, but honestly I haven't seen much tape on the guy. Watching him at the Combine can help me figure him out.

 

Allen Robinson* Penn St WR WO41 - A couple of experts have pegged him as their #1 WR. What-the-whaaaaaa? OK, let's see what he can do.

 

Michael Sam Missouri DL DL42 - .... but no, really... I think he's better than what people are crediting him with.

 

Bishop Sankey* Washington RB RB26 - I think he's very close to Carey in skill level. A bitchin' Combine will prove that.

 

... rest later.

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I wish I could talk freely about the rookie skill players. The downside of playing in dynasty B.O.T.H. leagues.

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Lache Seastrunk* Baylor RB RB27 - Another guy whose value is all over the place. I've seen him as high as RB1 and even in the top-3 over all but I don't know if I buy it. He doesn't look like an NFL RB to me. He's a great athlete with awesome straight line speed, but seems to dance a little bit too much of the hole is not 100% obvious. So kind of like a WR who was put in the backfield to get him the ball more. So it'll be nice to see how he measures up against the other top-tier RBs.

 

Austin Seferian-Jenkins* Washington TE TE21 - People are wowed by this guy's blend of size and athleticism, but then there are those that just think he's too lumber-y. I wanna see how fast he is.

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Charles Sims West Virginia RB RB28 - ***SLEEPER ALERT*** I think this guy has as much talent as any RB in this class. We shall see.

 

De'Anthony Thomas Oregon RB RB31 - This guy has bust written all over him. Is he any better/different than LaMichael James? Maybe I'm wrong but I see him as a gadget guy at BEST.

 

Logan Thomas Virginia Tech QB QB17 - From a size/athleticism standpoint, he's ideal. But he's slipped big time. A good combine can put him back in the mix.

 

Kyle Van Noy BYU LB LB33 - I like this guy. If he can put up good combine numbers he could be one of the better fantasy LBs in this class.

 

Sammy Watkins* Clemson WR WO47 - Yeah he's a stud, but let's see if he's A.J. Green studly or just a guy that'll be a pretty good playmaker in the NFL.

 

James Wilder Jr. Florida St RB RB34

Andre Williams Boston College RB RB35 - Both of these guys appear on many pundits' top-5/10 for RBs. I'm not sold, yet.

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I wish I could talk freely about the rookie skill players. The downside of playing in dynasty B.O.T.H. leagues.

 

 

Honestly, for me, at this point in the process I think it's pretty safe. Things are going to change dramatically after the draft. Once that happens (or heck, even after the combine), the level of detail I go into will greatly decrease.

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4 days to the combine...

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4 days to the combine...

 

 

I think Sunday is the skills day!

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Honestly, for me, at this point in the process I think it's pretty safe.

 

 

Agree. When I'm dealing with someone, I don't even worry about anything they may have posted, said, or otherwise indicated. I'm going to pay as much as I'm willing to pay, I'm going to demand as much as I would have demanded, and I'm going to walk away from any deal that doesn't fit what I believe is right. Someone may profess to be "super high" on Watkins in the 1.1, but when they offer you the 1.12 and 2015 3rd for it, how "high" they are takes on a different perspective.

 

Plus the potential for handling information is so great. What a great chance to start chatting up guys everyone else is in overdrive about, or that you can't pick due to needs. Or the best, get people going all one way over a guy that has something change when you can adjust and others don't so well. In my homer league there was a lot of discussion over how worried they were when GB drafted a second RB, one that was pretty highly touted and a passing-down candidate. All of a sudden Lacy's being thrown around at RB 30 talk. The ones that can see right through that can really score big. Or when DeAndre Hopkins went to the Texans, where the priority at WR2 in that offense, let alone a rookie, was right up there with getting their OT goal line carries. Everyone's down on him, were hoping he'd go to New England or Indianapolis, and he's slipping through the cracks. Now, just 12 months later, those that looked behind the curtain have a young stud in an offense with a new head coach, new OC, and new QB.

 

Even after the draft this doesn't worry me. There are lots of good players out there, far too many for me to get all of them anyway. If someone picks up on something from me and drafts a guy because of it, there's still going to be someone just as "good" left. Maybe I opened my mouth about Cordorelle Patterson last year and someone sniped him. If I took Keenen Allen as a concession, I did fine. It's not so much about how others pick from you, that's going to happen a lot, it's about you making right picks.

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NFLN coverage:

Sat and Sun 9am - 4pm

Sat and Sun 4am - 8pm

Sat and Sun 9pm -11pm sweet an hour to eat!

 

I think just the first session is live, and the others are just recaps and replays. Of course it's going to be 1000000 shots of Sammy Watkins 40 and Mike Evans' vertical and 20 minutes of coverage of the rest of the schmucks, but the first session should be fresher. DVR is set and that will be a lot of work-from-home downtime next week!

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http://www.nfl.com/combine/tracker#

 

QB

I don't think anything changed much here. There were no super-athletes we were looking for, and the closest one I cared about was Bridgwater who didn't run. Manziel ran a 4.68, but he's not nearly so much about flat-out speed as he is about his ability to create and still get throws off out of that.

 

Pro day workouts will tell us a lot more about their arms (if there even is anything left to learn), and the reads and decision-making are already on film.

 

I still like McCarron and Mettenberger as the under-rated ones and if they land in the right situation and get good coaching I think could exceed expectations. Garoppolo might be too, I haven't seen any of his film.

 

Logan Thomas is the deep flier, but that's a copout. He's big, strong, mobile, athletic, so of course he's got the highest ceiling if he hits. Needs a ton of work but if he gets there he'll pay out. I'll watch where he's drafted, and if it's to a coach that can develop a QB color me intrigued.

 

RB

No real wow factor hit here, and that's a surprise since there usually are a couple. A bunch of guys looked pleasantly good, just no huge impacts. Sankey and Mason ran decent 40's and were smooth in drills. Seastrunk's official time was ordinary but he jumped out of the gym and he looked pretty good in the drills. Charles Sims worked out well and just put himself in a lot of conversations, he's got a lot of nice production on his resume already. Overall Sankey made the biggest jump for me. He looks very solid and bigger than I anticipated. I wasn't very high on him, and I might need to adjust.

 

Jeremy Hill looked much more natural catching the ball than expected given his low production. Had he or Carlos Hyde Hyde run a sub-4.5 they are the winners of the combine Hyde pulled a hamstring on his first 40 so we didn't see anything but didn't really need to, we already know what he is.

 

De'Anthony Thomas' official was a very disappointing 4.5 and he looked very awkward at times in drills. His highlights are through the roof of course, but without some level of consistency on film he's going to drop. He'll get a shot of course, he's too intriguing not to, but I could see him dropping to the very late rounds unless he's on fire at his pro day.

 

Wilder looked awful. Slow, upright, stiff. Looked like a LB, should have stayed there at FSU. Carey didn't impress either but he has some serious production and history to offset that. Devonta Freeman looked ordinary too, but I already had that on him. Was hoping maybe he would change my mind. Nope. Andre Williams showed why he caught zero passes this year. Big concern with getting full-time work. I don't doubt he can play, but wonder how much he'll get on the field.

 

WR

This class is loaded. Not so much with sure-fire guys, but the potential is amazing. If you told me there were 10 future pro-bowlers here, I'd believe you but have no clue which 10 to predict. I'd include Watkins and Evans as my no-brainers but there are 20 others to fill out those last 8 slots. I had a DVR fail so missed a bunch of these workouts though so will need some help filling in the blanks.

 

Watkins looked pretty much as expected. He didn't blow the doors off with his 40, but he didn't hurt himself. Evans was pleasantly quick in the 40 but looked a little stiff running drills, not nearly so smooth as his comparisons to VJax would suggest. All of a sudden a half dozen+ guys proved out their biggest question of speed and look like legit fantasy performers: Cooks with his 4.33, Jordan Matthews ran a great time, Kevin Norwood was fast, Donte Moncrief, Odell Beckham, Ellington, Abbrederis all looked good. Allen Robinson wasn't fast but wasn't expected to be, and he jumped well. Iffy moments in drills might concern but there's a lot of film that belays those fears so he'll stay in the conversation. Davante Adams is similar with without as much good film to fall back on.

 

Landry took a big hit. The film is still the film, but he measured in under 6 feet and ran an official 4.78. All the damage control in the world won't save that, he needs a big pro day. He was supposed to balance out a lower ceiling potential with a super-safe baseline, but this makes one wonder. Benjamin had the same results. His size is fine, but his numbers were bad and I didn't see his workouts but the feedback I got was that it wasn't pretty. Much higher risk there, and all of a sudden the high reward might be a question. Marquis Lee wasn't nearly as dynamic as I thought he would be. His first two years were lights out and I was ready to dismiss his junior year as a perfect storm of health, coaching, and overall environment problems, but now I'm worried there's more to it than that. Both can clearly correct with good pro days of course, and shouldn't fall out of the 3rd round regardless, but they probably cost themselves some money today.

 

Sleepers also showed up. Martavis Bryant might have shed that tag already after running an official 4.42 and jumped well, and at 6'5" that's going to get him some attention. If he runs good routes at pro day someone is going to fall in love and reach on him. Jalen Saunders, Jeff Janis, Tevin Reese, Mike Campanero, Robert Herron, L'Damian Washington, TJ Jones, Philly Brown - I'm not going to be at all surprised if one of these guys gets into a good fit system and turns into a Pierre Garcon or TY Hilton.

 

TE

Boring. Ebron ran an ok time then sat the rest of the day. Amaro was a tad on the slow side, and looked awkward in drills at times. His numbers are huge, but inflated by system? Austin Sefarian-Jenkins didn't work out, which he needs to do. He's huge, but hasn't really performed up to what his body looks like he should be producing at. How fast is he? How strong? What kind of natural athlete can he be? Is he Brandon Pettigrew or does he have more potential?

 

Lots of middle-range guys that might suffice in a pinch but no one really made much of a move. Troy Niklas was all over the place - his reps were high, he was ok jumping, his 3-cone and 20 yard shuttle were terrible, and he didn't run a 40. He's getting a lot of hype recently but didn't answer anything today. Xavier Grimble is getting some love but only jumped, and not very well.

 

There are some deep guys that intrigue. AC Leonard had some eye-popping numbers and was a one-time SEC recruit (thrown out for behavior) so the talent is there. Lyerla was at one point a huge potential guy but went insane last fall. Except for the bench (15, lowest among TE) he looked the part, jumping great and running a solid 4.61. Both will get drafted now but that wasn't a given going in. Where they go will be something to watch.

Edited February 24, 2014 by flemingd

[keggerz]

Clowney=1.1

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http://www.nfl.com/combine/tracker#

 

QB

Garoppolo might be too, I haven't seen any of his film.

 

 

I haven't either but I've read he has issues with pocket presence and dealing with pressure.

[keggerz]

Sam's 4.91=bad

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Clowney's 40 time is just ridiculous, but what makes it even more so is the 10-yard split... the first ten yards ran at 1.54, where the average WR is 1.58

 

He may not fit in Romeo Crennel's system at HOU, and yes they have JJ Watt, but you figure out a way to get that guy in your defense. He's a friggin' freak.

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Rich eisen run his 40 yet?

[flemingd]

Rich eisen run his 40 yet?

 

 

Looks like it was taped, they are playing it now.

[flemingd]

http://www.nfl.com/runrichrun

 

 

He's been trying to break 6 seconds for three years - 6.18, 6.03, and 6.03. He ran a 6-flat, then went again and Mayock clocked him at 5.98. I suspect Mayock might have gotten a little trigger happy, as Eisen was still breathing hard when he lined up for it, but they still had fun with it.

 

They then simulcast him over a bunch of guys, with Clowney first. Eisen was at the 27 yard mark when Clowney finished. Manziel, Archer, Louis Nix, Nix with a 1 yard head start (Eisen won), Lewan and Gallon both (Eisen is a raging Michigan man and was slobbering all over Lewan's knob Saturday), and then over a bunch of his past runs. Quite comical.

 

Edited February 25, 2014 by flemingd

[irish]

http://www.nfl.com/runrichrun

 

 

He's been trying to break 6 seconds for three years - 6.18, 6.03, and 6.03. He ran a 6-flat, then went again and Mayock clocked him at 5.98. I suspect Mayock might have gotten a little trigger happy, as Eisen was still breathing hard when he lined up for it, but they still had fun with it.

 

They then simulcast him over a bunch of guys, with Clowney first. Eisen was at the 27 yard mark when Clowney finished. Manziel, Archer, Louis Nix, Nix with a 1 yard head start (Eisen won), Lewan and Gallon both (Eisen is a raging Michigan man and was slobbering all over Lewan's knob Saturday), and then over a bunch of his past runs. Quite comical.

 

 

 

Thx for the info.

Edited February 25, 2014 by irish

[Tripleshot]

Regarding Clowney, he's a freak with questionable motivation. Some are already suggesting his mediocre 21 reps was lack of effort. The dude knows he's a freak with incredible ability, but he also seems a little entitled to cruise whenever he feels like it. Sure, he says he wants to be one of the best ever, but that's lip service. The best have always had the work ethic to match, and this guy doesn't seem to have that.

[irish]

Regarding Clowney, he's a freak with questionable motivation. Some are already suggesting his mediocre 21 reps was lack of effort. The dude knows he's a freak with incredible ability, but he also seems a little entitled to cruise whenever he feels like it. Sure, he says he wants to be one of the best ever, but that's lip service. The best have always had the work ethic to match, and this guy doesn't seem to have that.

 

 

I really don't know how he'll turn out but 21 reps is not bad especially with such long arms. And with such tremendous skills in all other aspects, he could be an absolute monster!

[tazinib1]

I missed the entire combine while working on a Bollywood movie.

[irish]

I missed the entire combine while working on a Bollywood movie.

 

 

Well Taz, that's good/bad news. Kudos to you, as I'd rather hear that you missed all of the combine because of work rather than because of a drunken stupor.