BeeR Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Robinson was a pretty easy combination of BPA and need. Schaub buys us another year or two at QB, and maybe we can polish McGloin or Pryor up more. I agree w/that. I think taking a QB is a dumb move for them here. Which Al Davis I'm sure would agree with Honestly with all they have there, someone I think will step forward. McGloin in fact did well for the most part IMO and geez the guy was a rook with basically squat for weapons. Pryor also looked better than I expected frankly, and Schaub may be getting written off too soon. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted March 22, 2014 Share Posted March 22, 2014 Look at all this progress with BeeR now all sobered up. now look Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted March 23, 2014 Author Share Posted March 23, 2014 What the hell is BeeR up again? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Well it looks like DoG went ahead and BeeR'd us, so effectively the answer is yes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted March 23, 2014 Author Share Posted March 23, 2014 Well it looks like DoG went ahead and BeeR'd us, so effectively the answer is yes. LoL! Maybe he'll make his pick as he's still around... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Probably drunk. Cut him some slack. Wait.......it's Tampa Bay, who cares?? Just make his fn pick for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delusions of grandeur Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Well it looks like DoG went ahead and BeeR'd us, so effectively the answer is yes. I was out andwas going to pick Bucs when I got back , then the site froze on me . Falcons were a no-brianer, but Bucs in kind of a tough spot. But I'm not sure i should need to apologize for people monitoring draft progress at around midnight on a saturday night. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delusions of grandeur Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Commentary: Falcons: Mack there at 6 is Nolan's wet dream. He really is the missing piece for a DC who can give nightmares to offenses with versatile players who can play multiple looks. Imagine that game where they made Peyton Manning throw 3 interceptions in the first quarter, and now with pressure in his face. I'll be fine with one of the tackles, but i want this guy BAD. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delusions of grandeur Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 (edited) Bucs > Manziel: In an ideal world, they trade down here and take maybe a QB, CB, OG later, lots of options, but with them shoring up their tackle situation with Collins, I just don't see them taking Mathews here. It's a deep OT draft too, and they don't have that glaring of a need. Them already declaring McCown the starter doesn't speak to confidence for Glennon, but of course McCown is a stop-gap should they actualy be ready to compete and bring some excitement, but he's nothing more than a confiendece booster. Manziel would be a hell of a gamble ofr them though. Could do really well there, but I'm not sure if they could survive if he busts. Edited March 23, 2014 by delusions of grandeur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I was out andwas going to pick Bucs when I got back , then the site froze on me . Falcons were a no-brianer, but Bucs in kind of a tough spot. But I'm not sure i should need to apologize for people monitoring draft progress at around midnight on a saturday night. c'mon man, we have been busting balls this entire thread. It was more aimed at BeeR than you anyway, he's the one that set the precedent. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delusions of grandeur Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 c'mon man, we have been busting balls this entire thread. It was more aimed at BeeR than you anyway, he's the one that set the precedent. I guess it's because i can be wordy that people take me seriously, but I was also just busting your balls. I wouldn't care, but when I have to use girly emoticons to show my whimsicality (yes i just made that up), then my goal is to not be taken seriously (Except that LOL, I was actualy serious there) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BeeR Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I'm not sure i should need to apologize for people monitoring draft progress at around midnight on a saturday night. You do however need to apologize to the Bucs for that pick. Honestly - Manziel? After signing McCown and Glennon's promising rookie start and having so many other needs? Aint happenin - course then again things we think would never happen do in the draft every year - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted March 23, 2014 Author Share Posted March 23, 2014 You do however need to apologize to the Bucs for that pick. Honestly - Manziel? After signing McCown and Glennon's promising rookie start and having so many other needs? Aint happenin - course then again things we think would never happen do in the draft every year - Very true, things always go haywire in the draft. However, I wouldn't have selected Manziel either. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 You do however need to apologize to the Bucs for that pick. Honestly - Manziel? After signing McCown and Glennon's promising rookie start and having so many other needs? Aint happenin - course then again things we think would never happen do in the draft every year - Glennon? I tend to think the Bucs are planning for a new head coach soon and a new QB. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted March 23, 2014 Author Share Posted March 23, 2014 Glennon? I tend to think the Bucs are planning for a new head coach soon and a new QB. They already have one, Lovie and grabbed Mccown to challenge Glennon for the spot. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 They already have one, Lovie and grabbed Mccown to challenge Glennon for the spot. Haven't been paying attention this off season. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delusions of grandeur Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 They already have one, Lovie and grabbed Mccown to challenge Glennon for the spot. No, he went ahead and declared McCown the starter immediately, and they've talked about being interested in franchise QBs in the draft. They appear to be moving on from Glennon and McCown will be 35 before the season, so he's not the longterm answer either. Like I said, in an ideal world, they trade down (maybe they do reach a little bit to fill needs), but I absolutely think QB is a need, and some team is going to fall in love with Manziel's upside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 No, he went ahead and declared McCown the starter immediately, and they've talked about being interested in franchise QBs in the draft. They appear to be moving on from Glennon and McCown will be 35 before the season, so he's not the longterm answer either. Like I said, in an ideal world, they trade down (maybe they do reach a little bit to fill needs), but I absolutely think QB is a need, and some team is going to fall in love with Manziel's upside. A lot of fans will fall in love with him too and some owner may want him to sell tickets. Glennon isn't a franchise QB imo but wonder if Manziel can be one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
delusions of grandeur Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 (edited) A lot of fans will fall in love with him too and some owner may want him to sell tickets. Glennon isn't a franchise QB imo but wonder if Manziel can be one. Glad you brought that up, I forgot to mention that ticket sales did factor into the decision. The Bucs are currently cellar dwellers in that category, and interest in the team has been waning for years. Manziel would give fans something to be excited about, much like Mike Vick was the spark that brought interest back to a historically terrible Falcons franchise. Of course the Bucs will hope that a Manziel experiment turns out better than the Vick one, but point being that they might feel some pressure to draw interest. Yes they still have some other needs to fill, but the Bucs have enough talent to make some noise if they had a franchise QB. I'm not completely sold on Manziel (and as I said the gamble could backfire badly), but I'm also not denying that he could be the spark that turns a team around, or at very least increases interest as they see how it shakes out. Edited March 23, 2014 by delusions of grandeur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted March 23, 2014 Author Share Posted March 23, 2014 (edited) No, he went ahead and declared McCown the starter immediately, and they've talked about being interested in franchise QBs in the draft. They appear to be moving on from Glennon and McCown will be 35 before the season, so he's not the longterm answer either. Like I said, in an ideal world, they trade down (maybe they do reach a little bit to fill needs), but I absolutely think QB is a need, and some team is going to fall in love with Manziel's upside. I guess they could draft a QB, can't hurt to have competition. However, I doubt they take one with their first pick as they grabbed Mccown to start/compete, while Glennon gets more time to season as he didn't look bad in his first year. I think they go O-line with the pick or trade it like you mentioned. Edited March 23, 2014 by irish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randall Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 I guess they could draft a QB, can't hurt to have competition. However, I doubt they take one with their first pick as they grabbed Mccown to start/compete, while Glennon gets more time to season as he didn't look bad in his first year. I think they go O-line with the pick or trade it like you mentioned. Could be interesting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningMud Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 With the 8th pick I had the Vikes select CJ Mosley. I think they realize it is time to stop screwing around with their LB core and get a playmaker in there. This is that playmaker. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Good pick but I really don't see the Vikings NOT taking a QB. Cassell is nothing more than a solid B/U who can bridge a rookie. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
satelliteoflovegm Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Nap then work. I'll pick around midnight. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MorningMud Posted March 23, 2014 Share Posted March 23, 2014 Good pick but I really don't see the Vikings NOT taking a QB. Cassell is nothing more than a solid B/U who can bridge a rookie. I agree but none of them were still left and there is value to be had later at QB anyway. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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