darin3 Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I can't believe Montee Ball's name is even being discussed with the likes of McCoy and Charles. Forte, maybe. AP, sure. But Ball? Wow, ok. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 I can't believe Montee Ball's name is even being discussed with the likes of McCoy and Charles. Forte, maybe. AP, sure. But Ball? Wow, ok. Is he? That's news to me.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Also being the 5th ranked RB doesn't have to mean he is in company with the top 4.... they are in a tier of their own. ...is any other RB comparable to them other than Lynch or Foster? Even though I don't have them that high these days but talent-wise.....yeah Here ya go Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted July 26, 2014 Share Posted July 26, 2014 Is he? That's news to me.. +1 No doubt Charles and McCoy are in their own tier and forte is very close. The discussion is who joins them to create the top 5. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 +1 No doubt Charles and McCoy are in their own tier and forte is very close. The discussion is who joins them to create the top 5. exactly....just because a RB is ranked 5th does not mean he belongs in the same company as the top 4. It just means he is 5th in ranking... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tripleshot Posted July 27, 2014 Share Posted July 27, 2014 I'm a little worried about Charles this year. Seems he had a lot of long plays(maybe Keg or DMD have stats for this) and those are awfully hard to count on repeating. He had a ton of touches(and hits), has a tougher schedule this year, doesn't have a passing game to keep defenses honest... it all leaves me a little worried. If given the choice between him and Shady or AP, I think I pick the other two first. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaman Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 +1 No doubt Charles and McCoy are in their own tier and forte is very close. The discussion is who joins them to create the top 5. Forte outscored McCoy in IBL (PPR) last year: Joining them are AP and Lacy, IMHO. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Forte outscored McCoy in IBL (PPR) last year: Joining them are AP and Lacy, IMHO. Wouldn't doubt it, he wasn't quite there in other formats but still part of the top 3. ADP and lacy are solid choices and I think Ball gets there too. I also obviously included my thoughts on other backs too. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Forte outscored McCoy in IBL (PPR) last year: Joining them are AP and Lacy, IMHO. I like Forte a lot this year...I ranked him 2nd before I bumped AP up to #1... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 I like Forte a lot this year...I ranked him 2nd before I bumped AP up to #1... You have AP at #1? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 You have AP at #1? Yuup...I think his potential has a new ceiling in a PPR and he can be kept fresh by being used in the passing game. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Yuup...I think his potential has a new ceiling in a PPR and he can be kept fresh by being used in the passing game. Interesting. I mean it's not that far fetched as he's been there before. I just can't see taking him over at least McCoy or forte and probably Charles. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shaman Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 I like Forte a lot this year...I ranked him 2nd before I bumped AP up to #1... I do too, I don't know if I can make myself pick him ahead of McCoy... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 I do too, I don't know if I can make myself pick him ahead of McCoy... I couldn't do it. That's not too say he's that far off though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avernus Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 I have been worried about McCoy as an Eagles fan because he just simply gets gassed playing in this fast paced offense... He really shined last year but I am skeptical that he stays healthy....I become skeptical of any RB who has carried the load for a few years anymore.... I am already sour on Charles and Lynch...holdout or no holdout. ...but Charles at least moves to the bottom of the 1st tier for me...which is 4th overall...but I hope I don't have to draft him.... But then again I can always trade him for players that I do want.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irish Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 I have been worried about McCoy as an Eagles fan because he just simply gets gassed playing in this fast paced offense... He really shined last year but I am skeptical that he stays healthy....I become skeptical of any RB who has carried the load for a few years anymore.... I am already sour on Charles and Lynch...holdout or no holdout. ...but Charles at least moves to the bottom of the 1st tier for me...which is 4th overall...but I hope I don't have to draft him.... But then again I can always trade him for players that I do want.. True, cause most owners would view getting him as an upgrade. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mte55 Posted July 28, 2014 Share Posted July 28, 2014 Here are top 30 picks in average draft that went to RBs for last three years and what their end of year ranking was. So Peterson picked #1 in 2011 and ended as 14th best RB that year. Pick--Actual---2011 1--14---Peterson, Adrian 2--3---Foster, Arian 3--1---Rice, Ray 4--97---Charles, Jamaal 5--13---Johnson, Chris 6--2---McCoy, LeSean 11--4---Jones-Drew, Maurice 13--22---Mendenhall, Rashard 15--34---McFadden, Darren 17--16---Gore, Frank 19--15---Turner, Michael 20--8---Forte, Matt 24--10---Jackson, Steven 26--41---Hillis, Peyton Pick--Actual---2012 1--3---Foster, Arian 2--4---Rice, Ray 4--16---McCoy, LeSean 8--11---Johnson, Chris 9--24---McFadden, Darren 10--13---Forte, Matt 14--28---Murray, DeMarco 18--52---Jones-Drew, Maurice 21--1---Peterson, Adrian 22--8---Charles, Jamaal 24--5---Lynch, Marshawn 25--27---Mathews, Ryan 30--14---Sproles, Darren Pick--Actual---2013 1--7---Peterson, Adrian 2--55---Martin, Doug 3--42---Foster, Arian 4--1---Charles, Jamaal 6--24---Rice, Ray 7--30---Spiller, C.J. 8--2---McCoy, LeSean 9--32---Richardson, Trent 10--5---Lynch, Marshawn 11--3---Forte, Matt 14--20---Morris, Alfred 20--10---Johnson, Chris 21--33---Jackson, Steven 22--8---Bush, Reggie 24--21---Jones-Drew, Maurice 28--35---Ridley, Stevan great stuff david, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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