MTSuper7 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Justin Forsett won't be the grab of the year. Allen Hurns will be! Week one wonders, baby! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcheese Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Exactly, no double jeopardy. Isn't double jeopardy irrelevant if new significant facts come to life? If I kill someone, but am found not guilty due to lack of proof, then 6 months later a video comes out with me committing the murder, the case can be re-opened. Please note: This is not based on real-life events 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geo33 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 ^but he wasn't found not guilty, that's the difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennykravitz2004 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Isn't double jeopardy irrelevant if new significant facts come to life? If I kill someone, but am found not guilty due to lack of proof, then 6 months later a video comes out with me committing the murder, the case can be re-opened. Please note: This is not based on real-life events http://espn.go.com/n...hitting-fiancee Double jeopardy means that you cannot be tried twice for the same crime by the same jurisdiction. In the case of Ray Rice, it means that the Ravens running back cannot be put in jeopardy, a criminal prosecution, for punching his then-fiancée. Even if the prosecutor tried to use different charges it would not be allowed if the underlying facts are the same. So double jeopardy does apply and Rice cannot be charged again in the case. The NFL cannot increase Rice's punishment by claiming the league did not know the seriousness of what Rice did. First, who didn't know that Rice punched Palmer while in the elevator? Did anyone really think she fainted? Second, the punishment has already been decided both in court and by the NFL and has been partially served by Rice. If the NFL or the Ravens tried to increase the punishment by claiming they didn't know what he did, they would lose in court. -- Roger Cossack, ESPN legal analyst 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcheese Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 http://espn.go.com/n...hitting-fiancee Touche Maybe I will murder someone now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
texanhooters Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Not for nothing... I'd like to hear the audio of the Rice clip to hear what she said to him before he lashed out. Something tells me it wasn't " Ray baby you want corn or green beans with your chicken tonight?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphashado Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) Rice was just released by the Ravens. Hate to say I told you so. But I told you so. Gratz to anyone that grabbed Forsett before the flood gates opened, and my personal feelings are that this is a good thing. Buh bye Ray. Maybe he will think twice next time he thinks about punching a woman in the face. Edited September 8, 2014 by Alphashado 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
APackersOwner Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 words tearing at a man's pride seems to always justify it... pig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Def. Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Yeah for the mob mentality. I do not condone what Rice did, it was wrong. But this is just completely hypocritical. Where was this push with Ray Lewis or why is Greg Hardy still playing considering this is his 3rd abuse case? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
marcheese Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Loved Forsett back in 09/10 in Seattle. I hope he gets the chance, if so, I'll be all in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Retail Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 The NFL had stated otherwise. ... that they have not seen the footage until today. .. The NFL had stated otherwise. ... that they have not seen the footage until today. .. I guess I read wrong, I am very surprised by everything that is taking place today Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ShuckCreations Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 All I can say is thanks for the heads up! Hopefully Forsett will pan out and this won't be a complete disaster. Rice was going to be an awesome flex play though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphashado Posted September 8, 2014 Author Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) All I can say is thanks for the heads up! Hopefully Forsett will pan out and this won't be a complete disaster. Rice was going to be an awesome flex play though. You're welcome. Hopefully a few other people saw my initial post this morning and grabbed him. At the very least you got a starting RB. We all know how valuable they are even if they are bad lol. I was hoping this would drag out for a few days so that I could get Forsett off the waivers when they clear wed morning. But it's everywhere now. Even the crappiest players in my league are going to be well aware of the situation.. and since I am #10 in both leagues for waiver priority, I doubt I will get him. But I put it out there this morning to help guys like you. So gratz on the free RB P.S If he sucks don't blame me lol <--- Disclaimer Edited September 8, 2014 by Alphashado 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 You're welcome. Hopefully a few other people saw my initial post this morning and grabbed him. At the very least you got a starting RB. We all know how valuable they are even if they are bad lol. I was hoping this would drag out for a few days so that I could get Forsett off the waivers when they clear wed morning. But it's everywhere now. Even the crappiest players in my league are going to be well aware of the situation.. and since I am #10 in both leagues for waiver priority, I doubt I will get him. But I put it out there this morning to help guys like you. So gratz on the free RB P.S If he sucks don't blame me lol <--- Disclaimer Well hopefully most leagues don't use FCFS for all free agents, and some sort of waiver or blind bid process is used. I'm looking at him and might try for him in waivers. But I'm probably going to win so I'll be in the bottom half of the order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XFlash Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I'm sure that BAL will sign another journeyman RB. Not sure who is out there on waivers or possible trade from another teams 2nd RB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
efranklin Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I'm holding onto Pierce for now and hoping he gets one more shot at the starting job, which is probalby a bad idea considering how awful he played yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bturner2 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Any thoughts regarding burning your #1 waiver priority for Forsett? I am in need of RB help, but not convinced I take the chance the first week of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I'm sure that BAL will sign another journeyman RB. Not sure who is out there on waivers or possible trade from another teams 2nd RB. LaMichael James who was cut by SF today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wpayers Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) Hey i got it...the Ravens should trade their 2015 #7 pick to the Colts for TRich. Memo to Jim Irsay: don't buy high when you are high because you will have to sell low when you are really low. Edited September 8, 2014 by wpayers 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
XFlash Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 LaMichael James who was cut by SF today? I would not be surprised. LM James has some skill and can be pretty good if in the right system and have consistent carries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanTheMan_5 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 LaMichael James who was cut by SF today? Not only was he cut, but he ASKED to be cut. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Retail Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 I think Pierce gets another shot also. Like DMD stated above, Forsett has been around for a while. He has flashed at times but has never been someone you can depend on. If he is reliable starter this year it would be one of the biggest surprises that I can recall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 Can you say RBBC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chloroform Rx Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 (edited) Can someone explain the knock on Forsett? I understand he is 28, but that aside, looking at his numbers it seems he has almost always produced when given a chance. And he is a solid pass-catcher as well. As far as why he has always been a backup; could it have anything to do with the fact that he played behind Lynch, Jones-Drew and Foster? I'm not saying he is a legit RB because I don't know. I'm just genuinely curious as to what the actual reasons are. Is he slow? Poor pass-blocker? Is he too brittle? Edited September 8, 2014 by Chloroform Rx Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanTheMan_5 Posted September 8, 2014 Share Posted September 8, 2014 How old was Fred Jackson when his career took off? I wan't to say he was 27 or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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