Gourdeau Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 owners in my league swapped kenny stills and Colston straight up then the guy drops stills right after. Any takes on whether I should look into this as commish Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lennykravitz2004 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Sounds to me that this was done to bypass waivers, as some form of collusion on some level. Difficult to prove without emails or texts or admitting it though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Def. Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 owners in my league swapped kenny stills and Colston straight up then the guy drops stills right after. Any takes on whether I should look into this as commish Never hurts to be an informed commish. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanTheMan_5 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Ya I'm normally one to let people run their own teams, but this reeks of collusion. The trade itself, what evs, I got no issues with that. However the immediately dropping player traded for with no news is BS. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dolphin_Akie Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Worth asking both parties about. The trade alone is fair enough if slightly odd but you don't trade for someone then instantly drop them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Yes, ask questions for sure. Just don't jump the gun. There could be a solid explanation for this that ends up being a traditional mult-facet trade that's executed strangely. Something like "I will trade you Colston for your pickup" if he's got early priorty. Knowing he's trading for someone, the Stills drop just opens the roster spot. It would have been simpler to just drop Stills, pick up X, and trade X for Colston, but we don't know about deadlines (NOS plays Thursday) etc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 (edited) Who proposed the trade? And hardly a bye week issue when both play on the same team. Edited October 30, 2014 by tazinib1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Who said anything about bye weeks? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tazinib1 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Who said anything about bye weeks? Somehow I got "bypass" confused with "byeweek".... don't mind me. I'm sober. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gourdeau Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 We use faab so it's not a waiver priority issue I'm waiting for responses Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 Seriously fishy. Hate fishing for stuff as a commish but that just reeks of something dirty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gourdeau Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 What's aggravating is I had a conversation with the colston owner in Monday and proposed a trade that was sending him 1 extra player and he declined saying he already was having difficulty deciding who to drop. Although Colston has not been great I think he's a guy to stash if Cooks goes down or graham goes down again Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gourdeau Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 response from colston owner He liked Colston and I was going to drop him. Since everyone including (stills owner) felt I raped him last trade....lol I traded him Colston basically as part of that deal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gourdeau Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 My response That's not how things work lol that's considered collusion I like colston too and I'm sure others would also. Even though he hasnt been great hes a decent stash if a team has the room in case a saints wr gets hurt so im certain some teams would have put a bid in. He should have been dropped to the waiver and allowed for faab bidding regardless of how u and (stills owner) and others felt of the other trade. that trade was done and Colston was not part of it. I wouldn't have brought it up if you hadn't dropped stills but it looks fishy when that happens Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTSuper7 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 response from colston owner He liked Colston and I was going to drop him. Since everyone including (stills owner) felt I raped him last trade....lol I traded him Colston basically as part of that deal. Then I'd say let it go. It's not like either of those guys is all that valuable, and they admitted that this was to counter balance a previous trade. Weird, but what evah... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gourdeau Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 colston owner response I tried trading him to a few people and asked stills owner if he liked him as I needed to get a D. He said he liked him but asked what I could possibly want for him so I traded for Stills and tried a few other trades to free up a spot. No one would bite even if it involved a D. I wasn't sure if I could drop Stills after the game was over tonight so I dropped him now and set up a waiver claim to add a D for this weekend. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gourdeau Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 I think the colston owner felt stills offered him a better shot at trading for a d and when Noone bit he dropped him for a d on the waiver Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gourdeau Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 Thought wrong.. here is my response then his resposes So essentially you were hoping stills would give u a better chance at trading with another team for a d correct ? No everyone was hating on Colston so stills owner sent that trade to me I accepted it and tried trading other WR's planning on keeping Stills but no takers.I traded him to stills owner after texting with him. Looking back now probably wrong move considering I had to drop Stills but it's done now.Sorry bro I did say to him that the original trade may get some people upset but decided to go for it anyway. I don't have a D and was worried if he played his game I would not be able to drop him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DanTheMan_5 Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 eh, I understand what he's saying. I'd say let it go but establish some sort of parameter in your league constitution to deal with such issues in the future. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted October 30, 2014 Share Posted October 30, 2014 So he traded Colston for Stills, was going to keep Stills and trade another WR for a D. When that didn't happen, he still needed a D and dropped Stills. Can you follow that from the transactions on your league site. Was the trade executed, then significant time transpird before Stills ws dropped for a D? The explanation does kind of make sense, but if he needed a spot to add a D, why not just trade the guy Colston for a draft pick, then add a D off waivers? I get that the TNF game ads confusion, and he's right he would have to drop Stills before the game starts. You were right to question it, because trading something for nothing (dropping the player you got in the trade) looks fishy. You may also want to let your league know you looked into it and are satisfied it was not something fishy (and explain why if you can). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gourdeau Posted October 30, 2014 Author Share Posted October 30, 2014 Yup all taken care of. All is good and noted by all. That's for the advice. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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