Thews40 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I doubt he wins the appeal. Look at all the press the NFL is pushing against domestic violence. His intent was intentional, because he didn't turn around and apologize because he didn't mean to do it. He'll be a Raider next year. Kinda effed for the Lions. Stafford is an insane 0-16 on the road against winning teams. That's one big evil monkey on your back.. he's a lame duck if the defense doesn't carry them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isleseeya Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Not a fan of pereira at all as well. Seems to see only what he wants to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Have you ever noticed, that no matter what conversation you are having about the NFL with anyone...sooner or later it will become centered around the Cowboys  No. But this thread is about a player being suspended for a game against Dallas so.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 No. But this thread is about a player being suspended for a game against Dallas so.. Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
isleseeya Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Suh definitely helps lions chances if he plays but stafford 0 and 16 on the road against teams with winning records for his career would is a bigger concern Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 FWIW, Florio said tonight that he won't be surprised at all if the suspension is overturned on appeal Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3downleague Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Â Â He made his bed, now he has to lay in it ... when you are consistently a Dill Josh Gordon bag you get no benefit of the doubt on that one occasion where you might not have been. You know ... the whole "boy who cried wolf" thing. Â Â I agree, but I am sure it was intentional. It looks premeditated and he does it twice! And where can I score a bag of Dill Josh Gordon? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BA Baracus Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Whatever, I knew the responses would be that way. Everybody hates the guy so its easy to just assume he knew he was stepping on him and stepped on him a second time. Must have eyes in the back of his head to have such great aim. Â Â If he can't feel a human leg under his foot then he is either dead or doped way up on something. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 If he can't feel a human leg under his foot then he is either dead or doped way up on something. Â Or has his foot/leg heavily taped up, or has stepped on large divits of grass/dirt on the field all day, or..... Doped up, not NFL players.... Â I get it, virtually nobody wants to be objective about this, they hate Suh and will say anything he does that is even close is dirty. Hopefully those hearing his appeal can be more objective. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Or has his foot/leg heavily taped up, or has stepped on large divits of grass/dirt on the field all day, or..... Doped up, not NFL players.... Â I get it, virtually nobody wants to be objective about this, they hate Suh and will say anything he does that is even close is dirty. Hopefully those hearing his appeal can be more objective. Â Â Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Or has his foot/leg heavily taped up, or has stepped on large divits of grass/dirt on the field all day, or..... Doped up, not NFL players.... Â I get it, virtually nobody wants to be objective about this, they hate Suh and will say anything he does that is even close is dirty. Hopefully those hearing his appeal can be more objective. Â Â LOL ... yea I can see how stepping on "large divits of grass/dirt on the field all day" might confuse him when he steps on Aaron's leg. Â I don't think objectivity is the issue here. Â 1. Does he have a long track record of similar behavior. Yup. 2. Do we have video evidence of him stepping on Aaron's leg, twice. Yup. 3. Was there any visual evidence that it was not intentional. Nope. 4. Was there any visual evidence that he was remorseful for it (like you would expect if it was not intentional). Nope. Â I fail to see why you think he deserves the benefit of a doubt? What has he done in the past that earns him the benefit of a doubt? Even if this was a first time occurrence for him I do not believe I would be giving him the benefit of a doubt as it looked 100% intentional to me ... his track record only solidifies my believe that it was intentional. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big John Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Per ESPN, the suspension was lifted on appeal. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Per ESPN, the suspension was lifted on appeal. Â Â Not surprised at all ... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Buncha bs. I hope he gets his legs taken out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HowboutthemCowboys Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 Buncha bs. I hope he gets his legs taken out. Â me too Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BA Baracus Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014  Or has his foot/leg heavily taped up, or has stepped on large divits of grass/dirt on the field all day    Surely you jest.  I like the Lions...objectivity is not the issue. It was obvious that he was trying to hurt Rogers. Dude is a dirty player. Just calling a spade a spade.  Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grits and Shins Posted December 30, 2014 Share Posted December 30, 2014 I think I heard this was his 9th infraction. If the NFL was really serious about modifying his behavior they would have allowed the suspension to stand. Being suspended during a playoff game would not only be more impactful to him but it would have a more meaningful impact on the Detroit front office and coaching staff. He is not going to change his behavior unless his team requires it of him because of a severe negative impact to the team when it counts the most ... like in the playoffs. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darin3 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 (edited) They should have suspended him for 2 games. I don't have the inclination to research, but I'm guessing he's had multiple game suspensions in the past? Maybe not. Even if he didn't, the fact that he's a repeat offender should have prompted the league to suspend him for 2. Then they could have bargained down to the 1 game. Stupid. Edited December 31, 2014 by darin3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thews40 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 What if Rodgers can't play? The NFL needs to hire one guy to make these decisions. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BA Baracus Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 He needs to get North Dallas Forty 'break his damn leg' treatment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flemingd Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Or has his foot/leg heavily taped up, or has stepped on large divits of grass/dirt on the field all day, or..... Doped up, not NFL players.... Â I get it, virtually nobody wants to be objective about this, they hate Suh and will say anything he does that is even close is dirty. Hopefully those hearing his appeal can be more objective. Â Â c'mon man. Â Go downstairs, throw a bunch of kid's toys on the floor, turn around and take a couple of steps back. What's the first thing you do when you hit something you didn't expect? Reach back, so as to catch yourself in a fall? Lift your foot up immediately and do a quick bunny hop, looking backward for a safe place to plant your foot? Suh's reaction was in no way one of a guy that didn't know what he was doing. Â If you look at the video in slow motion, you can actually make out that he hip-checked Rodgers toward the end of it, and could see him going down out of the corner of his eye, so he definitely knew he was there. Â Not surprised at all ... Â Â Exactly. The NFL is a joke. All they wanted was plausible deniability which they got with their initial ruling. "Yes, ladies and gentlemen of the jury, we are serious about player safety and have done what we could to enforce it. See all the suspensions we laid out? Go blame the guy reducing them if you believe they didn't hold enough threat." 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABearWithFurniture Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 Per Adam Schefter..."During appeal, Ndamukong Suh said his feet were numb from cold and he couldn't tell difference between Aaron Rodgers' feet and the ground." Â I'm guessing his butt and brains were numb too... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stevegrab Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 He won the appeal, the NFL was wrong. They overreached trying to send a message, and failed. Â He gets to play and that is all that matters. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTSuper7 Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 He won the appeal, the NFL was wrong. They overreached trying to send a message, and failed. Â He gets to play and that is all that matters. Â Â I saw a lot of talk in this thread about Suh not deserving the benefit of the doubt. But here's what I ask... If a no-name player stepped on an average QB in this manner, where there was no stomping and the defender wasn't looking where he stepped, would that player have been flagged with no fine, fined, or suspended? I think we all know that Suh is a dirty player, but the point I'm making is that the punishment should be consistent. The NFL knee-jerk reacted as usual, then had a chance to rectify their decision when Suh appealed. Take the players in question out of this scenario, and you have to admit that suspension from a playoff game for this incident is a bit much. I would also argue that a $70k fine is most definitely not Suh being treated just like anyone else (or being given the benefit of the doubt). Fines for these kinds of plays are typically more in the $10-$25k range IIRC. Â And FWIW, it looks pretty terrible when you suspend Raiola for one game for a clear STOMP on another player and give a harsher punishment (because it was a playoff game) for stepping backward onto someone. Even if we knew the intent with 100% certainty, stepping on someone is not the same as stomping on them. All of this is just another black mark on the NFL's laughable discipline roulette wheel. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ABearWithFurniture Posted December 31, 2014 Share Posted December 31, 2014 He won the appeal, the NFL was wrong. They overreached trying to send a message, and failed. Â Â The NFL said he did not win his appeal...they did not buy into his excuse but did change the punishment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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